Haggis_McMutton wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Please, stop being controlled!
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Once more.
Group A wants to give liberty to people to do what they want as long as it's not affecting anyone else.
Group B wants to refuse that liberty because it isn't "traditional" and because they are offended by Group A's choices.
Who exactly is scared here?
Marriage is an ecclesiastical issue and an institution. I concede it's a very touchy subject, and many do think it a liberty and a right, and I have compassion for those who are personally affected. However, marriage is a privilege. A civil union is a government institution, and a civil union is a right, I agree 100%. We have that in almost every state.
The only reason you guys are able to argue it is a right and because it is liberty is the simple fact the government licenses it. Now you are using this to take marriage out of the hands of the church into firmly in the control of the federal government (if you support constitutional amendment).
I hold to what I have always said, that is if you can find a church that will marry you, then by all means go get married there, and you can be married and love who you want in the most special way. If a state chooses to allow gay marriage in a democratic way, then by all means go get married and gays will have my support.
I don't see how the government has anything to do with that reasoning the homosexuals use to imply discrimination.....unless this is really all about government benefits. And, government benefits are also a privilege, and not a right (unless it's a program you paid into to, then you have a right and a claim on those benefits).
I was somewhat surprised to see the other day a major gay spokesman "spewing" my exact same point of view, or what many call my "rhetoric" and "bigotry"....If what I say is bigoted and rhetoric and prejudiced, than so is this gay rights activist. Which in this case probably means that it's many of my adversaries who got it wrong and are flying off the hinges and actually becoming bigots themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm44Dgqj3rI&t=1m56s
listen to a major gay activist push my "agenda". I have been right about this all along, and I get the feeling that the majority of the more reasonable and cool headed gay activists and opinion have been drowned out by those who have been using Nazi tactics and fascist methodology. I'm serious about that, but I know many are too emotionally charged to consider such things...of course, that's how Nazi's are created, no?