Huma Abedin (Weinning)

[Phatscotty]

What is the story with this woman? Is she connected to the Muslim Brotherhood? People are saying she secretly controls Hillary Clinton or something...somebody fill me in please.

Who is Huma Abedin? What is the fuss all about?

[Woodruff]

What is the story with this woman? Is she connected to the Muslim Brotherhood? People are saying she secretly controls Hillary Clinton or something...somebody fill me in please.
Who is Huma Abedin? What is the fuss all about?

I don't recall ever having heard the name before now. She looks like she might be cute, though.

[Timminz]

"Huma Abedin (Weinning)". Not a single one of those things is a word.

[Night Strike]

Her father, mother, and brother are all active participants in the Muslim Brotherhood and Michelle Bachmann dared to release a statement asking how she was granted a security clearance to be a top deputy at the State Department. For most people, one of the top possible disqualifications to receiving a security clearance is having direct family ties to a hostile country or a terrorist organization. Huma Abedin has 3, so Bachmann asked how she gained her clearance. Immediately, John McCain, the biggest lover and promoter of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists, derided her comments and called for John Boehner to remove her from the house intelligence committee.

http://bachmann.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=299447

[Woodruff]

Her father, mother, and brother are all active participants in the Muslim Brotherhood and Michelle Bachmann dared to release a statement asking how she was granted a security clearance to be a top deputy at the State Department. For most people, one of the top possible disqualifications to receiving a security clearance is having direct family ties to a hostile country or a terrorist organization. Huma Abedin has 3, so Bachmann asked how she gained her clearance. Immediately, John McCain, the biggest lover and promoter of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists, derided her comments and called for John Boehner to remove her from the house intelligence committee.

1. That seems like a really strange move for McCain to make. I don't get that.

2. You're certainly right that having direct family ties (or even indirect, non-family ties) to a hostile country or terrorist organization is a pretty serious possible disqualification to recieving a security clearance. By the same token, it is not at all a guarantee of such disqualification, as I've known a number of folks in the military with such ties that had extremely high clearances.

[Symmetry]

Her father, mother, and brother are all active participants in the Muslim Brotherhood and Michelle Bachmann dared to release a statement asking how she was granted a security clearance to be a top deputy at the State Department. For most people, one of the top possible disqualifications to receiving a security clearance is having direct family ties to a hostile country or a terrorist organization. Huma Abedin has 3, so Bachmann asked how she gained her clearance. Immediately, John McCain, the biggest lover and promoter of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists, derided her comments and called for John Boehner to remove her from the house intelligence committee.

http://bachmann.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=299447

Utter fucking bollocks. Where are you getting your narrow minded propaganda from this time> Her father is dead, so pretty far from being an "active member of the Muslim Brotherhood", he died in 1993.

Her mother is an associate Professor of sociology.

Dude, seriously, what the hell are you trying to do with this?

These allegations about Huma and the report from which they are drawn are nothing less than an unwarranted and unfounded attack on an honorable woman, a dedicated American and a loyal public servant... The letter and the report offer not one instance of an action, a decision or a public position that Huma has taken while at the State Department that would lend credence to the charge that she is promoting anti-American activities within our government... These attacks on Huma have no logic, no basis and no merit. And they need to stop now.

I don't know Huma. But from everything that I do know of her, she has a sterling character, and I think accusations like this being thrown around are pretty dangerous.

Source

[Woodruff]

Her father, mother, and brother are all active participants in the Muslim Brotherhood and Michelle Bachmann dared to release a statement asking how she was granted a security clearance to be a top deputy at the State Department. For most people, one of the top possible disqualifications to receiving a security clearance is having direct family ties to a hostile country or a terrorist organization. Huma Abedin has 3, so Bachmann asked how she gained her clearance. Immediately, John McCain, the biggest lover and promoter of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists, derided her comments and called for John Boehner to remove her from the house intelligence committee.

http://bachmann.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=299447

Utter fucking bollocks. Where are you getting your narrow minded propaganda from this time> Her father is dead, so pretty far from being an "active member of the Muslim Brotherhood", he died in 1993.

Her mother is an associate Professor of psychology.

Dude, seriously, what the hell are you trying to do with this?

These allegations about Huma and the report from which they are drawn are nothing less than an unwarranted and unfounded attack on an honorable woman, a dedicated American and a loyal public servant... The letter and the report offer not one instance of an action, a decision or a public position that Huma has taken while at the State Department that would lend credence to the charge that she is promoting anti-American activities within our government... These attacks on Huma have no logic, no basis and no merit. And they need to stop now.

I don't know Huma. But from everything that I do know of her, she has a sterling character, and I think accusations like this being thrown around are pretty dangerous.

Source

Well that's pretty damning...well done, Symmetry. Night Strike...you turn?

[Night Strike]

Her father, mother, and brother are all active participants in the Muslim Brotherhood and Michelle Bachmann dared to release a statement asking how she was granted a security clearance to be a top deputy at the State Department. For most people, one of the top possible disqualifications to receiving a security clearance is having direct family ties to a hostile country or a terrorist organization. Huma Abedin has 3, so Bachmann asked how she gained her clearance. Immediately, John McCain, the biggest lover and promoter of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists, derided her comments and called for John Boehner to remove her from the house intelligence committee.

1. That seems like a really strange move for McCain to make. I don't get that.

2. You're certainly right that having direct family ties (or even indirect, non-family ties) to a hostile country or terrorist organization is a pretty serious possible disqualification to recieving a security clearance. By the same token, it is not at all a guarantee of such disqualification, as I've known a number of folks in the military with such ties that had extremely high clearances.

McCain has been a top promoter of the Arab Spring and the Muslim Brotherhood specifically as being a big, "largely secular" part of it. From what I read of a response letter Bachmann and others wrote (don't know if it was in that link or not), all they are doing is asking for an inquiry into the justification for the security clearance and not outright saying that it was improperly granted. They're trying to do their job of oversight on intelligence issues, but some people immediately jumped on them for asking questions.

[Night Strike]

When it comes to security clearances for top level positions, it doesn't matter whether you specifically have said or done anything dangerous or disqualifying. The FBI looks at whether you might have a conflict of interest or any influences from an outside organization, even if that influence can come from family. Heck, I had an interview with an FBI representative about a former roommate of mine who was applying for a tech job with the FBI.

[Symmetry]

McCain has been a top promoter of the Arab Spring and the Muslim Brotherhood specifically as being a big, "largely secular" part of it. From what I read of a response letter Bachmann and others wrote (don't know if it was in that link or not), all they are doing is asking for an inquiry into the justification for the security clearance and not outright saying that it was improperly granted. They're trying to do their job of oversight on intelligence issues, but some people immediately jumped on them for asking questions.

So the response to your nonsense is that you think McCain should be investigated? How far does your conspiracy spread? It seems to encompass anyone, left or right, dead or alive, foreign or national, that doesn't agree with you.

[Lootifer]

Yeh a high ranking political official with a Muslim background probably didnt have many background or security checks carried out on her...

[Night Strike]

McCain has been a top promoter of the Arab Spring and the Muslim Brotherhood specifically as being a big, "largely secular" part of it. From what I read of a response letter Bachmann and others wrote (don't know if it was in that link or not), all they are doing is asking for an inquiry into the justification for the security clearance and not outright saying that it was improperly granted. They're trying to do their job of oversight on intelligence issues, but some people immediately jumped on them for asking questions.

So the response to your nonsense is that you think McCain should be investigated? How far does your conspiracy spread? It seems to encompass anyone, left or right, dead or alive, foreign or national, that doesn't agree with you.

No, I'm saying McCain has been a major protector and willfully ignorant of the jihadist history of the group. He can have his delusional views if he wants to.

I'm saying that the house intelligence committee is wanting to review the justification used to grant Huma Abedin a security clearance to make sure proper protocols were followed for her just like they are for every other person who wants a security clearance.

Yeh a high ranking political official with a Muslim background probably didnt have many background or security checks carried out on her...

From all indications, Huma herself has never been involved with the Muslim Brotherhod (Bachmann and the others don't dispute this). However, having family members who have been directly involved with such groups can be a disqualifying factor from a security clearance, and that's what the committee wants to investigate.

[Symmetry]

Yeh a high ranking political official with a Muslim background probably didnt have many background or security checks carried out on her...

NS found out that her dad is an active participant in the Muslim Brotherhood, although, of course, he's been dead for about a decade. Maybe he'll let us know where he found his information.

[Night Strike]

Sorry, my statement about her father being an active participant was a typo as the original letters all reference him as deceased. Here's the 16 page, cited, response letter released by Bachmann. The bold parts after the numbers are the parts of the letter she is responding to in this current letter. (Timeline: the 5 committee members sent letters to 5 agencies, someone wrote a reply letter denouncing the inquiry, Bachmann released this letter on her own citing justifications for why the inquiry is necessary.)

http://www.sctimes.com/assets/pdf/DR192062714.PDF

[Symmetry]

="Night Strike"]Her father, mother, and brother are all active participants in the Muslim Brotherhood and Michelle Bachmann dared to release a statement asking how she was granted a security clearance to be a top deputy at the State Department. For most people, one of the top possible disqualifications to receiving a security clearance is having direct family ties to a hostile country or a terrorist organization

Sorry, my statement about her father being an active participant was a typo as the original letters all reference him as deceased. Here's the 16 page, cited, response letter released by Bachmann. The bold parts after the numbers are the parts of the letter she is responding to in this current letter. (Timeline: the 5 committee members sent letters to 5 agencies, someone wrote a reply letter denouncing the inquiry, Bachmann released this letter on her own citing justifications for why the inquiry is necessary.)
http://www.sctimes.com/assets/pdf/DR192062714.PDF

So none of them are active participants at all, in addition to the father being dead, at best her mother and brother came were associated with organisations that Muslim Brotherhood members had contact with.

This is pretty vicious of you NS. What do you want?

Can you at least come out and say that her family members aren't active participants in the Muslim brotherhood?

Or are you so cowardly that you you'll throw mud and run away without admitting fault?

[Night Strike]

So none of them are active participants at all, in addition to the father being dead, at best her mother and brother came were associated with organisations that Muslim Brotherhood members had contact with.

This is pretty vicious of you NS. What do you want?

Can you at least come out and say that her family members aren't active participants in the Muslim brotherhood?

Or are you so cowardly that you you'll throw mud and run away without admitting fault?

So I misstated something while trying to explain what was going on. So sue me.

[Symmetry]

So none of them are active participants at all, in addition to the father being dead, at best her mother and brother came were associated with organisations that Muslim Brotherhood members had contact with.

This is pretty vicious of you NS. What do you want?

Can you at least come out and say that her family members aren't active participants in the Muslim brotherhood?

Or are you so cowardly that you you'll throw mud and run away without admitting fault?

So I misstated something while trying to explain what was going on. So sue me.

I don't feel that I would be vindicated by asking you for money, even if that was feasible. It'd be nice if you explained where you got your info from though. That's something you could provide.

[Night Strike]

So none of them are active participants at all, in addition to the father being dead, at best her mother and brother came were associated with organisations that Muslim Brotherhood members had contact with.

This is pretty vicious of you NS. What do you want?

Can you at least come out and say that her family members aren't active participants in the Muslim brotherhood?

Or are you so cowardly that you you'll throw mud and run away without admitting fault?

So I misstated something while trying to explain what was going on. So sue me.

I don't feel that I would be vindicated by asking you for money, even if that was feasible. It'd be nice if you explained where you got your info from though. That's something you could provide.

I only posted two links that directly go to both the original letters and a response letter. I made a misstatement on the details because I typed them up before double checking what I had read two weeks ago when the story came to the forefront.

Now, let's focus on the actual issue at hand instead of my misstatement if you would like to continue on this topic.

[MeDeFe]

Yeh a high ranking political official with a Muslim background probably didnt have many background or security checks carried out on her...

NS found out that her dad is an active participant in the Muslim Brotherhood, although, of course, he's been dead for about a decade. Maybe he'll let us know where he found his information.

Make that two decades if he died in 1993.
Really NS, this has been a really weak performance by you. There's no scandal, noone's obviously at fault of any wrongdoing or even neglect. Just what are you and Phatscotty as the OP trying to tell us?

Fastpost, but that's ok: What IS the "issue at hand" as you call it?

[Night Strike]

Fastpost, but that's ok: What IS the "issue at hand" as you call it?

Members of the intelligence committee wanting an inquiry into how a person whose family has ties to terrorist organizations was able to get high level security clearances at the State Department.

[MeDeFe]

Fastpost, but that's ok: What IS the "issue at hand" as you call it?

Members of the intelligence committee wanting an inquiry into how a person whose family has ties to terrorist organizations was able to get high level security clearances at the State Department.

Because said family member has been dead for two decades?

[Night Strike]

Fastpost, but that's ok: What IS the "issue at hand" as you call it?

Members of the intelligence committee wanting an inquiry into how a person whose family has ties to terrorist organizations was able to get high level security clearances at the State Department.

Because said family member has been dead for two decades?

There are three members who have had ties to those groups, and only one is dead. And that doesn't necessarily matter when it comes to the FBI investigating security clearances (although being dead would be a mitigating factor for why the clearance could still be granted).

[Symmetry]

Now, let's focus on the actual issue at hand instead of my misstatement if you would like to continue on this topic.

Meh, the topic was BS to begin with. The arguments that you posted were false, the Bachmann evidence looks to be largely spurious, even from major Republican sources.

What is the issue at this point? Facts call BS, Repubs call BS, Dems call BS, you accept that much of it is BS, I think it's BS...

Michelle Bachmann says it's important.

I think you place too much importance on some nugget of Bachmann's nonsense maybe standing up after all this.

[Night Strike]

If you want to believe it's all BS, then fine (although not surprising). I was attempting to answer Phatscotty's question in the OP, and achieved that in the end (once I found the link I had originally read).

[Symmetry]

If you want to believe it's all BS, then fine (although not surprising). I was attempting to answer Phatscotty's question in the OP, and achieved that in the end (once I found the link I had originally read).

Dude, you were flat out wrong here.