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Same-Sex Marriage Unanimously Included In DNC Platform USA!

Postby Juan_Bottom on Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:49 pm

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Frank emphasized that support for marriage equality is a position that has been established for the Democratic Party, from the president, who endorsed marriage equality in May, to House Democratic lawmakers who voted to reject an amendment reaffirming the Defense of Marriage Act earlier this month.

A DNC staffer, who is familiar with the process and spoke on condition of anonymity, said the language in the platform approved on Sunday not only backs marriage equality, but also rejects DOMA and has positive language with regard to the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. The exact wording of the language wasn’t immediately available.


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Postby john9blue on Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:09 am

cool, but honestly i'm worried about things that really matter (like balancing the budget and getting rid of our corporatist government)
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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Unanimously Included In DNC Platform U

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:16 am

john9blue wrote:cool, but honestly i'm worried about things that really matter (like balancing the budget and getting rid of our corporatist government)



Well, unfortunately our Congress isn't interested in budgets right now. That shit is really hard. And these are far right conservatives that we are talking about. They've been the least active congress since the 60s.

But this is just one small part of the DNC Platform. I'm sure that saving America from Congress will be even higher up on the list.
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Postby Phatscotty on Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:21 am

john9blue wrote:cool, but honestly i'm worried about things that really matter (like balancing the budget and getting rid of our corporatist government)


Why do you think they are putting all their eggs in the social issue that affects less than 2% of the population basket?

Because it's a highly emotional wedge issue, and Obama is pretty damn good at wedging divisions

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Well, unfortunately our Congress isn't interested in budgets right now. That shit is really hard. And these are far right conservatives that we are talking about. They've been the least active congress since the 60s.



How can you say this crap about our Congress not being interested in Budgets? I don't believe you are this naive, but lately I'm starting to.

The Republican controlled House of Representatives HAS passed budgets, you might have even heard one of them was a balanced budget.

The DEMOCRAT Senate is the branch of Congress that has not passed a budget in almost 4 years.


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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Unanimously Included In DNC Platform U

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:28 am

Oh I didn't think the 2013 budget passed because it raised taxes on the ederly and middle class while giving tax cuts to the rich, corporations, and increased military spending.
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Postby saxitoxin on Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:23 am

My sister remixed Obama's ad as a salute to le chef d'État.

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Postby Woodruff on Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:30 am

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Postby Woodruff on Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:31 am

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john9blue wrote:cool, but honestly i'm worried about things that really matter (like balancing the budget and getting rid of our corporatist government)


Why do you think they are putting all their eggs in the social issue that affects less than 2% of the population basket?
Because it's a highly emotional wedge issue, and Obama is pretty damn good at wedging divisions


Sure, it couldn't at all be because of equality or anything.
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Postby Army of GOD on Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:59 am

haha, as if the Democrats actually give a shit about equality.

they know they'll get the majority of the independents if they sympathize with the LGBTUVWXYZ community and getting reelected is all they care about.
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Postby Woodruff on Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:00 am

Army of GOD wrote:haha, as if the Democrats actually give a shit about equality.

they know they'll get the majority of the independents if they sympathize with the LGBTUVWXYZ community and getting reelected is all they care about.


I don't at all disagree that's what Democratic politicians largely care about. That's not quite the same thing, of course.
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Postby Dibbun on Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:02 am

Haha Democrats taking a stand opposing DOMA which Clinton signed.

Hint: The government doesn't give a f*ck about you, only your vote and your taxes.
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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Unanimously Included In DNC Platform U

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:48 am

Dibbun wrote:Haha Democrats taking a stand opposing DOMA which Clinton signed.

Hint: The government doesn't give a f*ck about you, only your vote and your taxes.


Army of GOD wrote:haha, as if the Democrats actually give a shit about equality.

they know they'll get the majority of the independents if they sympathize with the LGBTUVWXYZ community and getting reelected is all they care about.


It was Barney Frank who announced it.
Frank resides in a studio apartment complex in Newton, Massachusetts. His husband, Jim Ready, is a surfing enthusiast whom Frank met during a gay political fundraiser in Maine, where Ready still lives.[19] Frank announced he would marry Ready in 2012.[102]


“I was part of a unanimous decision to include it,” Frank said. “There was a unanimous decision in the drafting committee to include it in the platform, which I supported, but everybody was for it.”


I think rather that the truth is that you don't give a shit about politics.
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Postby rdsrds2120 on Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:59 am

Army of GOD wrote:haha, as if the Democrats actually give a shit about equality.

they know they'll get the majority of the independents if they sympathize with the LGBTUVWXYZ community and getting reelected is all they care about.


IT'S LGBTQUIA YOU HOMOPHOBE. Also acceptable, QUILTBAG.

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Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:01 am

There's just no way to read that and not laugh.
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Postby Gillipig on Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:06 am

Politicans never care about anything except being re elected! Why? Money and status. It's the only thing people really seem to care about.
Politicians are just as simple and narrowminded as the average person. Only difference is that they're good at talking. And making it seem like they care about stuff they really don't. They're actors, just not working in hollywood.


Well some have done that too haha.
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Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:22 am

Politicians on a local level don't have to act. They already know that people have a short memory and most people don't vote. ANd that you'll just vote them out if you don't like what they do.
I'd like to stress again that the problem is that most people don't give a sh*t about politics.

Jim Sacia has public meetings bi-monthly and writes an editorial for the local paper to let us know what he's been up to.
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Postby saxitoxin on Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:32 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:It was Barney Frank who announced it.


Wait - is this the same Barney Frank who was caught trading jobs on his staff for sex and who was discovered, in the early '90's, to have been paying a hooker $20,000/month to live with him, while said hooker was dealing cocaine out of Frank's house (meanwhile Frank has said he opposes drug legalization)?

Is this the same Barney Frank who presided over the Subprime mortgage scandal of 2008 as Chair of the Financial Services Committee, after receiving boatloads of cash from the mortgage industry? Is this the same Barney Frank who was called the Bush-era HUD's "go-between" with Congress?

I'm sure no one would use this Barney Frank as a standard bearer of statesmanship or a fighter for the little guy, so it's got to be a different one...

(opportunity to gratuitously post video of Barney Frank's voice cannot be passed up, though --)



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Postby saxitoxin on Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:43 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/breaking-same-sex-marriage-unanimously-included-in-dnc-platform/politics/2012/07/30/45085



Frank emphasized that support for marriage equality is a position that has been established for the Democratic Party, from the president, who endorsed marriage equality in May, to House Democratic lawmakers who voted to reject an amendment reaffirming the Defense of Marriage Act earlier this month.

A DNC staffer, who is familiar with the process and spoke on condition of anonymity, said the language in the platform approved on Sunday not only backs marriage equality, but also rejects DOMA and has positive language with regard to the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. The exact wording of the language wasn’t immediately available.


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Postby Phatscotty on Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:26 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:It was Barney Frank who announced it.


Wait - is this the same Barney Frank who was caught trading jobs on his staff for sex and who was discovered, in the early '90's, to have been paying a hooker $20,000/month to live with him, while said hooker was dealing cocaine out of Frank's house (meanwhile Frank has said he opposes drug legalization)?

Is this the same Barney Frank who presided over the Subprime mortgage scandal of 2008 as Chair of the Financial Services Committee, after receiving boatloads of cash from the mortgage industry? Is this the same Barney Frank who was called the Bush-era HUD's "go-between" with Congress?

I'm sure no one would use this Barney Frank as a standard bearer of statesmanship or a fighter for the little guy, so it's got to be a different one...

(opportunity to gratuitously post video of Barney Frank's voice cannot be passed up, though --)




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Postby Juan_Bottom on Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:36 pm

Aw that was too easy for you. Let me make things a bit more difficult, because you're dealing with JUAN MOTHERF*CKING BOTTOM.


Barney Frank was never caught paying a hooker $20,000 a month to live with him.
Being a closeted gay himself:
He hired a former gay prostitute to work as a driver/housekeeper/general aide. He paid him with his own money, not the governments money. The hooker later lied after being fired and tried to start a bidding war for his false "sex scandal story," but a house investigation found Barney Frank innocent.

In response to Barney Franks work with Subprime Mortgages:

In 2003, while the ranking minority member on the Financial Services Committee, Frank opposed a Bush administration proposal, in response to accounting scandals, for transferring oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from Congress and the Department of Housing and Urban Development to a new agency that would be created within the Treasury Department. The proposal, supported by the head of Fannie Mae, reflected the administration's belief that Congress "neither has the tools, nor the stature" for adequate oversight. Frank stated, "These two entities ...are not facing any kind of financial crisis ... The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

Frank was criticized by conservative organizations for campaign contributions totaling $42,350 between 1989 and 2008. Bill Sammon, the Washington managing editor for Fox News Channel, claimed the donations from Fannie and Freddie influenced his support of their lending programs, and said that Frank did not play a strong enough role in reforming the institutions in the years leading up to the Economic crisis of 2008.[51] In 2006 a Fannie Mae representative stated in SEC filings that they "did not participate in large amounts of these non-traditional mortgages in 2004 and 2005."[52] In response to criticism, Frank said, "In 2004, it was Bush who started to push Fannie and Freddie into subprime mortgages, because they were boasting about how they were expanding homeownership for low-income people. And I said at the time, 'Hey — (a) this is going to jeopardize their profitability, but (b) it's going to put people in homes they can't afford, and they're gonna lose them.'"

The New York Times noted that the Federal Housing Administration's crucial role in the nation's housing market, providing low-down-payment mortgages during the crisis of 2007–2010 when no mortgages would otherwise have been available, "helped avert full-scale disaster" by helping people purchase or refinance homes and thereby putting a floor under falling home prices. However, due to the tighter flow of credit from the banks, total FHA loans in 2009 were four times that of 2006, raising concern that year that if the economy were to dip back into recession, more Fed funds could be required to keep those loans afloat. Frank's response was that the additional defaults — 2.2% more of the total portfolio in 2009 than the year before — were worth the economic stabilization of the broader policy, noting "It was an effort to keep prices from falling too fast." In that context, he opined, "I don't think it's a bad thing that the bad loans occurred." In fact, the unprecedented number of loans made since 2008 were noted to be performing far better than those in the prior two years.[66]


So there you have it that Frank did not receive "boatloads of cash" even though the opposition tried to paint it that way. It's actually odd how little money he got considering his own level of power.
He also opposed the white-house's attempt to steal oversight of the mortgage industry.
Finally, Barney Frank vowed to not retire until he fixed this mortgage crisis/problem, and he kept his word. But I'll let you google that.


Basically it's insane to claim that the one gay-married guy in Congress doesn't care about other gay couples at all. It's also quite unfair to blame him for stuff that he was proven to have played no part and other stuff that never even happened.


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Postby Phatscotty on Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:12 pm

Obama F'd this one up so bad, he is even losing his hold on 96% black vote. (Now 91%)

The reason the Democrats picked this up on their platform is because they are already planning on losing the white house, and putting everything into a couple of Senate seats so they can still hold 51 votes in the Senate against a Tea Party dominated House and an Establishment Republican in the White House.

The Democrats are confident they can turn the wedge issue of traditional marriage and twist it some more until it become an extremely divisive issue in a few select states, and hold on to those seats. The national debt, our failing schools, poverty, recession/depression, the Democrats Record since 2006...none of that is being talked about, and they will have nothign to do with the election. It's all about a wedge issue.

Divide and Conquer. You are seeing it practiced blatantly on the issue of redefining marriage.
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Postby Woodruff on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:07 pm

Phatscotty wrote:Obama F'd this one up so bad, he is even losing his hold on 96% black vote. (Now 91%)

The reason the Democrats picked this up on their platform is because they are already planning on losing the white house, and putting everything into a couple of Senate seats so they can still hold 51 votes in the Senate against a Tea Party dominated House and an Establishment Republican in the White House.

The Democrats are confident they can turn the wedge issue of traditional marriage and twist it some more until it become an extremely divisive issue in a few select states, and hold on to those seats. The national debt, our failing schools, poverty, recession/depression, the Democrats Record since 2006...none of that is being talked about, and they will have nothign to do with the election. It's all about a wedge issue.

Divide and Conquer. You are seeing it practiced blatantly on the issue of redefining marriage.


Are you move away when Obama wins? Because you seem to be extraordinarily desperate lately.
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Postby Phatscotty on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:11 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Obama F'd this one up so bad, he is even losing his hold on 96% black vote. (Now 91%)

The reason the Democrats picked this up on their platform is because they are already planning on losing the white house, and putting everything into a couple of Senate seats so they can still hold 51 votes in the Senate against a Tea Party dominated House and an Establishment Republican in the White House.

The Democrats are confident they can turn the wedge issue of traditional marriage and twist it some more until it become an extremely divisive issue in a few select states, and hold on to those seats. The national debt, our failing schools, poverty, recession/depression, the Democrats Record since 2006...none of that is being talked about, and they will have nothign to do with the election. It's all about a wedge issue.

Divide and Conquer. You are seeing it practiced blatantly on the issue of redefining marriage.


Are you move away when Obama wins? Because you seem to be extraordinarily desperate lately.


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