Same-Sex Marriage Unanimously Included In DNC Platform USA!

[Woodruff]

Obama F'd this one up so bad, he is even losing his hold on 96% black vote. (Now 91%)

The reason the Democrats picked this up on their platform is because they are already planning on losing the white house, and putting everything into a couple of Senate seats so they can still hold 51 votes in the Senate against a Tea Party dominated House and an Establishment Republican in the White House.

The Democrats are confident they can turn the wedge issue of traditional marriage and twist it some more until it become an extremely divisive issue in a few select states, and hold on to those seats. The national debt, our failing schools, poverty, recession/depression, the Democrats Record since 2006...none of that is being talked about, and they will have nothign to do with the election. It's all about a wedge issue.

Divide and Conquer. You are seeing it practiced blatantly on the issue of redefining marriage.

Are you move away when Obama wins? Because you seem to be extraordinarily desperate lately.

No. I respect Democracy, and I am tolerant of the outcome. I also respect the vote of any leftist who votes for Obama, including yours. However, anyone who is not a leftist should not vote for Obama

As usual, this post of yours is chock full of cluefuckedness.

[anoob]

Obama F'd this one up so bad, he is even losing his hold on 96% black vote. (Now 91%)

The reason the Democrats picked this up on their platform is because they are already planning on losing the white house, and putting everything into a couple of Senate seats so they can still hold 51 votes in the Senate against a Tea Party dominated House and an Establishment Republican in the White House.

The Democrats are confident they can turn the wedge issue of traditional marriage and twist it some more until it become an extremely divisive issue in a few select states, and hold on to those seats. The national debt, our failing schools, poverty, recession/depression, the Democrats Record since 2006...none of that is being talked about, and they will have nothign to do with the election. It's all about a wedge issue.

Divide and Conquer. You are seeing it practiced blatantly on the issue of redefining marriage.

Are you move away when Obama wins? Because you seem to be extraordinarily desperate lately.

No. I respect Democracy, and I am tolerant of the outcome. I also respect the vote of any leftist who votes for Obama, including yours. However, anyone who is not a leftist should not vote for Obama

pal, i'm an independent moderate and do not agree with every issue obama supports such as affirmative action which i am against.

however, obama is way better than romney who probably doesn't even pay his taxes.

therefore, i will vote for obama.

i suppose only rightwinging teapartiers will vote for romney eh?

[saxitoxin]

Barney Frank was never caught paying a hooker $20,000 a month to live with him.

Years earlier, Frank had paid Gobie for sex; he eventually hired him as his assistant. Gobie was later accused of running a sex business out of Frank's home. Frank also used his House privileges to waive Gobie's parking tickets.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/200 ... rostitutes

a house investigation found Barney Frank innocent.

The House ethics committee voted today to recommend that Representative Barney Frank receive a formal reprimand from the House for his relationship with a male prostitute, Congressional officials said. The committee's unanimous vote in a closed meeting ended months of deadlock among its 12 members over how harsh a punishment was appropriate.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/20/us/fo ... panel.html

So there you have it that Frank did not receive "boatloads of cash" even though the opposition tried to paint it that way. It's actually odd how little money he got considering his own level of power.

These are the current, mid-cycle, 2012 figures and they're still incredibly high for a Congressman who has run unopposed 4 of the last 7 elections (in 2002 he won with 99% of the vote and spent $0, but raised $1.8 million). Pre-scandal numbers were astonishing. He was the second highest paid member of Congress by the financial services industries after Joe "Mastercard" Biden.

http://www.opensecrets.org




your turn

[saxitoxin]

I do have to say, I do like one of Bawney Frank's employers, KPMG. They have a catchy corporate anthem, "A Dream of Power", all employees sing at mandatory company meetings. It's good the Board of Directors and executive suite of KPMG have Congressman Bawney on the payroll. He's turned out to be a sound investment that helps KPMG realize their "Dream of Power."

Do you ever burst into a rousing, spontaneous chorus of "A Dream of Power" in the shower and such? KPMG wants what's best for you. That's why they're paying Bawney, to help look out for you. You're a KPMG Kid, Juan! Awesome!

KPMG, we're strong as can be!
A dream of power and energy.
We go for the gold, together we hold,
Onto our vision of global strategy!

THIS IS NOT ORWELLIAN - ALL WHO CLAIM IT IS WILL BE CRUSHED

[PLAYER57832]

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/breaking-same-sex-marriage-unanimously-included-in-dnc-platform/politics/2012/07/30/45085

Frank emphasized that support for marriage equality is a position that has been established for the Democratic Party, from the president, who endorsed marriage equality in May, to House Democratic lawmakers who voted to reject an amendment reaffirming the Defense of Marriage Act earlier this month.

A DNC staffer, who is familiar with the process and spoke on condition of anonymity, said the language in the platform approved on Sunday not only backs marriage equality, but also rejects DOMA and has positive language with regard to the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. The exact wording of the language wasn’t immediately available.

It needs to happen. That said, I fear this will mean a big loss for Obama. The intolerant right is a pretty strong base right now.

[Juan_Bottom]

Barney Frank was never caught paying a hooker $20,000 a month to live with him.

Years earlier, Frank had paid Gobie for sex; he eventually hired him as his assistant. Gobie was later accused of running a sex business out of Frank's home. Frank also used his House privileges to waive Gobie's parking tickets.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/200 ... rostitutes

That's not the same thing. He didn't pay him $20,000 a month to have sex with him as a sex toy.
When he paid Gobie to have sex with him (1 time only), that was at a time when it was not ok to be an "out" homosexual in America. "Gay Bashing" had become a social phenomenon, and there had never been an open homosexual in Congress, the White House, or the Supreme Court. And it's clear that, because he later hired Gobie to work as an assistant, that he didn't originally hire Gobie just for sex. There had to be a companionship aspect to it. He may have also hired him later because of a feeling of guilt.

The House ethics committee voted today to recommend that Representative Barney Frank receive a formal reprimand from the House for his relationship with a male prostitute, Congressional officials said. The committee's unanimous vote in a closed meeting ended months of deadlock among its 12 members over how harsh a punishment was appropriate.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/20/us/fo ... panel.html

They found him innocent of the charges you've you've lobbed against him again. The House Ethics Committee ran a witch hunt to investigate (D) Frank's gayness and relationship with a Gay Prostitute. They found that all claims against him were groundless.
What they did find was that Barney Frank had "misstatements of fact in a memorandum" for Gobie's criminal record and that he used his office to fix 33 of Gobie's parking tickets.

These are the current, mid-cycle, 2012 figures and they're still incredibly high for a Congressman who has run unopposed 4 of the last 7 elections (in 2002 he won with 99% of the vote and spent $0, but raised $1.8 million). Pre-scandal numbers were astonishing. He was the second highest paid member of Congress by the financial services industries after Joe "Mastercard" Biden.

http://www.opensecrets.org

The Center for Responsive Politics estimate Banrey Frank's personal worth between $619,024 and $1,510,000. His default yearly salary of $174,000 per year means that he could easily achieve this net without being a sell-out. In fact, were he a sell out, I'd expect his personal wealth to be much greater.

[BigBallinStalin]

At least sax posted sources. Phat_Bottom, do what you do best and post some more pics.

How about praising Barnie Frank for being a crony capitalist because he's Democrat and he supports red herring issues like gay marriage? Yeah, that'll show 'em!

[Symmetry]

At least sax posted sources. Phat_Bottom, do what you do best and post some more pics.

How about praising Barnie Frank for being a crony capitalist because he's Democrat and he supports red herring issues like gay marriage? Yeah, that'll show 'em!

Pretty sure he posted a source in the post directly above yours.

[Juan_Bottom]

I'm the guy who's always posting links. Above I posted names and numbers so anyone could fact-check. Notice BBS didn't take issue with any facts I posted, because he couldn't. He just attacked me for not posting enough links, which isn't the same thing. If I had been debating with him I may have coddled him more than Saxi.

Arguing that Barney Frank is supporting a "Red Herring" issue is beyond ridiculous; it's dishonest and shows that BBS has no idea what the issues are. He's just here to attack me because of the fight we had over his racist Holocaust jokes. And probably also because I'm not afraid to tell people that he's not an economist. Barney Frank was the House's first "out" & married Homosexual. He obviously cares about the issue. So, duh!
Furthermore, I just friggin' pointed out that he hasn't accumulated much wealth for his long tenure. His lack of financial resources is evidence that he's not a crony capitalist. Did he even read my rebuttal or just scan it for a chance to attack me?

[BigBallinStalin]

At least sax posted sources. Phat_Bottom, do what you do best and post some more pics.

How about praising Barnie Frank for being a crony capitalist because he's Democrat and he supports red herring issues like gay marriage? Yeah, that'll show 'em!

Pretty sure he posted a source in the post directly above yours.

And his first two? EHHHHHHH.... I dunno, Sym. Not seeing much there, but this is Phat_Bottom. Whenever he says something, you'll drop your standards because you already agree with him. Whenever PhatScotty says something, you'll raise your standards because you already disagree with him.


You might be coming down with a serious case of Phatism. Please report to the cyber epidemic thread

[BigBallinStalin]

I'm the guy who's always posting links. Above I posted names and numbers so anyone could fact-check. Notice BBS didn't take issue with any facts I posted, because he couldn't. He just attacked me for not posting enough links, which isn't the same thing. If I had been debating with him I may have coddled him more than Saxi.

Arguing that Barney Frank is supporting a "Red Herring" issue is beyond ridiculous; it's dishonest and shows that BBS has no idea what the issues are. He's just here to attack me because of the fight we had over his racist Holocaust jokes. And probably also because I'm not afraid to tell people that he's not an economist. Barney Frank was the House's first "out" & married Homosexual. He obviously cares about the issue. So, duh!
Furthermore, I just friggin' pointed out that he hasn't accumulated much wealth for his long tenure. His lack of financial resources is evidence that he's not a crony capitalist. Did he even read my rebuttal or just scan it for a chance to attack me?

Sorry, Phat_Bottom. I could only get through the first sentence, and then I skimmed the rest. You have a history of making illogical arguments, so there's no point in taking you seriously.

I wish you luck with your recent affliction of Phatism. God be with you.

[Symmetry]

Sorry, Phat_Bottom. I could only get through the first sentence, and then I skimmed the rest. You have a history of making illogical arguments, so there's no point in taking you seriously.

I wish you luck with your recent affliction of Phatism. God be with you.

This ain't exactly the first time you've accused a poster of not posting sources directly after they posted sources, BBS.

[Juan_Bottom]

While I can't see what he's posting, without some suspension of disbelief, lemme take a guess at what he posted.

He didn't read what I wrote, he didn't respond to what I wrote, he called me Phattscotty, and then he attacked Symm for pointing out the link.

??????

[BigBallinStalin]

Sorry, Phat_Bottom. I could only get through the first sentence, and then I skimmed the rest. You have a history of making illogical arguments, so there's no point in taking you seriously.

I wish you luck with your recent affliction of Phatism. God be with you.

This ain't exactly the first time you've accused a poster of not posting sources directly after they posted sources, BBS.

Okay, Sym. You're most likely angry about something in the RL, and now you're lashing out in the fora. It isn't healthy, and there's no good reason for me to respond to you for awhile.

[Symmetry]

Sorry, Phat_Bottom. I could only get through the first sentence, and then I skimmed the rest. You have a history of making illogical arguments, so there's no point in taking you seriously.

I wish you luck with your recent affliction of Phatism. God be with you.

This ain't exactly the first time you've accused a poster of not posting sources directly after they posted sources, BBS.

Okay, Sym. You're most likely angry about something in the RL, and now you're lashing out in the fora. It isn't healthy, and there's no good reason for me to respond to you for awhile.

Huh, that was kind of unexpected as a response. What do you mean?

Are you really so angry at being wrong on this? JB had a source in the post directly above your post accusing him of not posting sources. You replied to it.

[saxitoxin]

Barney Frank was never caught paying a hooker $20,000 a month to live with him.

Years earlier, Frank had paid Gobie for sex; he eventually hired him as his assistant. Gobie was later accused of running a sex business out of Frank's home. Frank also used his House privileges to waive Gobie's parking tickets.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/200 ... rostitutes

That's not the same thing. He didn't pay him $20,000 a month to have sex with him as a sex toy.

Oh okay! Nevermind then!

The House ethics committee voted today to recommend that Representative Barney Frank receive a formal reprimand from the House for his relationship with a male prostitute, Congressional officials said. The committee's unanimous vote in a closed meeting ended months of deadlock among its 12 members over how harsh a punishment was appropriate.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/20/us/fo ... panel.html

They found him innocent of the charges you've you've lobbed against him again. The House Ethics Committee ran a witch hunt to investigate

Since the House Ethics Committee, at the time, consisted of 6 Democrats and 3 Republicans, is it safe to say we shouldn't trust Democrats and Democrats tend to organize witchhunts to embarrass the ethically pure Bawney Fwank? Or can we try to desperately rationalize this - like everything else - with some grand, intricate conspiracy theory so that the heroes we so desperately, frantically, want to believe in stay on their pedestals and we can process the world in easy shades of black/white, red/blue instead of facing ugly truths?

In the recent words of the great John Zerzan, the "Obama/Romney supporters - the world of the thinking blobs."

These are the current, mid-cycle, 2012 figures and they're still incredibly high for a Congressman who has run unopposed 4 of the last 7 elections (in 2002 he won with 99% of the vote and spent $0, but raised $1.8 million). Pre-scandal numbers were astonishing. He was the second highest paid member of Congress by the financial services industries after Joe "Mastercard" Biden.

http://www.opensecrets.org

The Center for Responsive Politics estimate Banrey Frank's personal worth between $619,024 and $1,510,000. His default yearly salary of $174,000 per year means that he could easily achieve this net without being a sell-out. In fact, were he a sell out, I'd expect his personal wealth to be much greater.

I'm sorry, but these are just a bunch of words that aren't organized in such a way that they actually communicate a thought.

[saxitoxin]

Meet Michael R. Taylor

Curriculum Vitae



1976-1980 : Staff Attorney, FDA (appointed by presidency of Jimmy Carter)
1980-1988 : Corporate Attorney, Monsanto Inc.
1988-1992 : Deputy Commissioner, FDA (appointed by presidency of George H.W. Bush)
1992-2000 : U.S. Food Safety Administrator (appointed by presidency of William J. Clinton)
2000-2008 : Senior Vice-President for Policy, Monsanto Inc.
2008-Present : Deputy Commissioner, FDA (appointed by presidency of Barack H. Obama)

The Bush-Obama FDA has approved, last year, the unrestricted planting of Monsanto alfalfa and gone on to require farmers to pay Monsanto royalties if Monsanto seeds blow on the wind currents and land in their fields. Further rulings by the end of this year on Monsanto's Roundup Ready crops and Terminator seeds will effectively place the entire world's food supply under the control of Monsanto.

No people in any country in the world can do anything about that except for people in one country, but they're too busy debating about who should be allowed to participate in various parties like wedding receptions and Flag Day barbecues, or what color streamers to use or the kind of cake toppers that are best.

brainwashed, corpulent Americans ...

[BigBallinStalin]

Yeah, but without regulatory bodies like the FDA, there would be chaos, and no market solution would ever emerge like competing certification agencies!

Saxi, we have to support crony capitalism because without the power of government, which corporations use to become powerful, the corporations would control us!

[saxitoxin]

Yeah, but without regulatory bodies like the FDA, there would be chaos, and no market solution would ever emerge like competing certification agencies!

Saxi, we have to support crony capitalism because without the power of government, which corporations use to become powerful, the corporations would control us!

SAXI SAYS -

HEY YOU GUYS - LOOK AT THIS! The brain matter of a 2 year old child has created a 3-foot splatter mark after a Hellfire missile salvo Obama ordered. Isn't it amazing how much brains can fit inside a small package?



--------------------------------------------


BAWNEY FWANK SAYS -

Let me tell you all about how FAWBUOUS Ellen's wedding to Portia de Rossi was - I was even featured in the highlights on Access Hollywood! Diamond rings! Pretty dresses! Beautiful people! Scrumptious apps! Fab cocktails! Free gift bags sponsored by Victoria's Secret and Taco Bell! Look at me, look at me! Look over here!







So at the end of Rome ... the rulers entertained the peasants with bread and circuses as the Vandals encircled the city walls ...

[Juan_Bottom]

People can separate the issue Saxi.

Since the House Ethics Committee, at the time, consisted of 6 Democrats and 3 Republicans, is it safe to say we shouldn't trust Democrats and Democrats tend to organize witchhunts to embarrass the ethically pure Bawney Fwank? Or can we try to desperately rationalize this - like everything else - with some grand, intricate conspiracy theory so that the heroes we so desperately, frantically, want to believe in stay on their pedestals and we can process the world in easy shades of black/white, red/blue instead of facing ugly truths?

In the recent words of the great John Zerzan, the "Obama/Romney supporters - the world of the thinking blobs."

Your issue is that you're an anarchist who hates all government. While Frank has been somewhat of a big government advocate, with things like anti-abortion laws, a strong Civil Rights voting record, Co-Sponsoring the Innocence Protection Act of 2001, States' Rights to Medical Marijuana Act (H.R. 2592), Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act of 2008 (HR 5843), "Removing Impediments to Students Education" (RISE) ((H.R.5157) 08-HR5157), Community AIDS and Hepatitis Prevention Act (HR 179 2009-H179), "Federal Agency Protection of Privacy Act" (H.R.4561), Industrial Hemp Farming Act of 2009 (H.R.1866 2009-H1866), "Anti-Spamming Act" (01-HR718), "Safe Drinking Water Act Amendments" (H.R.3392), "National Forest Protection and Restoration Act" (H.R.1494), "Great Cats and Rare Canids Act" (H.R.1464), H.R. 5244 - the Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights , "Animal Fighting Prohibition Enforcement Act" (S.261/H.R.137), "Partnership Benefits and Obligations Act" (S.2521/H.R.4838), "Federal Law Enforcement Dependents Assistance Act" (H.R.4111. Became Public Law No: 104-238), "the MX Missile Stand-Down Act" (01-HR2718), the Landmine Elimination and Victim Assistance Act (01-HR948), "Rail Security Act" (S.1379/H.R.153) (05-S1379), "Veterans Suicide Study Act" ( (S.2899/H.R.4204) 08-S2899), H.R. 2046 - the Internet Gambling Regulation and Enforcement Act (restored online gambling rights), H.R. 5767 - the Payment Systems Protection Act, and strongly supporting the Mortgage Reform and Anti-Predatory Lending Act (H.R. 3915) and the Federal Housing Reform Act (H.R. 1427), he's still also a good friend of Ron Paul.
Oh, and he also wants to reduce our military spending. I've seen his requests listed between 20 - 35%.

In 2009 Frank had a 100% rating from NARAL Pro-Choice America indicating a pro-choice voting record.
In 2002 he was scored at 93% by the American Civil Liberties Union on civil rights issues indicating a pro-civil rights voting record.
In April 2009 Frank was named in the LGBT magazine Out's "Annual Power 50 List", landing at the top spot.
In 2003 he was rated "A" by Vote Hemp, indicating a pro-hemp voting record.
In 2003 he was rated 95% by the League of Conservation Voters indicating pro-environment votes.
In 2000 Frank was rated at 89% by Citizens United for Rehabilitation of Errants indicating pro-rehabilitation crime votes.
The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People scored him at 100% in 2006 indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance

AND he opposed amnesty for those involved in the NSA warrantless surveillance controversy.

So I can see why an Anarchist would hate him. I however, do not.

[Phatscotty]

I'm the guy who's always posting links. Above I posted names and numbers so anyone could fact-check. Notice BBS didn't take issue with any facts I posted, because he couldn't. He just attacked me for not posting enough links, which isn't the same thing. If I had been debating with him I may have coddled him more than Saxi.

Arguing that Barney Frank is supporting a "Red Herring" issue is beyond ridiculous; it's dishonest and shows that BBS has no idea what the issues are. He's just here to attack me because of the fight we had over his racist Holocaust jokes. And probably also because I'm not afraid to tell people that he's not an economist. Barney Frank was the House's first "out" & married Homosexual. He obviously cares about the issue. So, duh!
Furthermore, I just friggin' pointed out that he hasn't accumulated much wealth for his long tenure. His lack of financial resources is evidence that he's not a crony capitalist. Did he even read my rebuttal or just scan it for a chance to attack me?

Sorry, Phat_Bottom. I could only get through the first sentence, and then I skimmed the rest. You have a history of making illogical arguments, so there's no point in taking you seriously.

I wish you luck with your recent affliction of Phatism. God be with you.

u r such a dik

[Army of GOD]

At least sax posted sources. Phat_Bottom, do what you do best and post some more pics.

How about praising Barnie Frank for being a crony capitalist because he's Democrat and he supports red herring issues like gay marriage? Yeah, that'll show 'em!

Pretty sure he posted a source in the post directly above yours.

And his first two? EHHHHHHH.... I dunno, Sym. Not seeing much there, but this is Phat_Bottom. Whenever he says something, you'll drop your standards because you already agree with him. Whenever PhatScotty says something, you'll raise your standards because you already disagree with him.


You might be coming down with a serious case of Phatism. Please report to the cyber epidemic thread

I said the same thing in the Chick-fil-a thread

[saxitoxin]

While Frank has been somewhat of a big government advocate, with things like...

Voted Yes on Killing the People of Iraq
Voted Yes on Killing the People of Afghanistan
Voted Yes on Killing the People of Libya
Voted Yes on Killing the People of Serbia

These kids parents are cool with his brains getting splattered across the rocks (LOL - theirs are probably that pile of brown goo a few feet over! ) if it means Ellen and Portia have a glamorous wedding and Bawney gets entertained by all manner of muscular young men who have been paid to be mounted by hundreds of pounds of fat at his luxury Boston townhome.



Keep voting for whomever gives you the most in a dwindling pile of treats and goodies; your pleasure and comfort is more important than brown people keeping their heads or limbs attached to their bodies. And remember, after you pull the lever for Obama, close your eyes, snuggle up in your blanket, and repeat as frantically as possible, like the Germans did before you ... there's no day of reckoning coming, I'll never be held personally responsible ...

[Juan_Bottom]

Voted Yes on Killing the People of Iraq
Voted Yes on Killing the People of Afghanistan
Voted Yes on Killing the People of Libya
Voted Yes on Killing the People of Serbia

like the Germans did before you ... there's no day of reckoning coming, I'll never be held personally responsible ...

And then you moved here from Germany. Is it your families destiny to have it's members die as citizens of every tyrannical rogue government?

[john9blue]

Voted Yes on Killing the People of Iraq
Voted Yes on Killing the People of Afghanistan
Voted Yes on Killing the People of Libya
Voted Yes on Killing the People of Serbia

like the Germans did before you ... there's no day of reckoning coming, I'll never be held personally responsible ...

And then you moved here from Germany. Is it your families destiny to have it's members die as citizens of every tyrannical rogue government?

ladies and gentlemen, the average liberal debater.

and people wonder why i criticize you fuckers instead of the conservatives.