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Gillipig wrote:The Postman - Crappy movie but Kevin Costner does a good performance.
The two Lara Croft movies - Films made of games rarely have good scripts. And these are awful! All compensated by Angelina Jolies acting.
Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of the Crystal skull - Piss poor script! Aliens with crystal skulls who if you look into them will make you manic. Harrison Ford was the sole reason it wasn't a complete failure.
The two Johnny English movies - Again poor scripts but Rowan Atkinson does what he does best and saves the movies.
Gillipig wrote: I don't know what you were trying to get at with making me name these. That there are no good acting performances without a good script? That's ridicolous!
Gillipig wrote:What more do I want? I want you to admit you have no good reason to dislike Leonardo di Caprio based on acting skill! You may not like his style and that's fine but don't try to justify your dislike of him with that he's not talented. Because anyone with the least bit of movie know how can clearly see that he has.
Do you have anything against actors because most of them are good looking? Is that what it is? Jealousy?
thegreekdog wrote:Gillipig wrote:The Postman - Crappy movie but Kevin Costner does a good performance.
The two Lara Croft movies - Films made of games rarely have good scripts. And these are awful! All compensated by Angelina Jolies acting.
Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of the Crystal skull - Piss poor script! Aliens with crystal skulls who if you look into them will make you manic. Harrison Ford was the sole reason it wasn't a complete failure.
The two Johnny English movies - Again poor scripts but Rowan Atkinson does what he does best and saves the movies.
Are you serious with these?
thegreekdog wrote:Gillipig wrote: I don't know what you were trying to get at with making me name these. That there are no good acting performances without a good script? That's ridicolous!
I can think of a few good acting performances that corresponded to good scripts. One in particular comes to mind. Very rarely, if ever, do critics (or anyone else) say "The movie was awesome because of [actor x]." I'm wracking my brain to think of a movie with a bad script and good acting.
thegreekdog wrote:Gillipig wrote:What more do I want? I want you to admit you have no good reason to dislike Leonardo di Caprio based on acting skill! You may not like his style and that's fine but don't try to justify your dislike of him with that he's not talented. Because anyone with the least bit of movie know how can clearly see that he has.
Do you have anything against actors because most of them are good looking? Is that what it is? Jealousy?
Dicaprio is as talented as any other 50 actors. People didn't like The Departed or Gangs of New York or whatever because Dicaprio was in it. They liked them because the script and story were good.
I do not have anything against actors because most of them are good looking. I would not be jealous because I'm also good looking.
I like certain actors in certain roles. I thought Daniel Day Lewis was excellent in Gangs of New York. I thought Al Pacino and Robert Deniro were excellent in Godfather II. I thought Heath Ledger's performance was outstanding in The Dark Knight. I would not say Daniel Day Lewis was an outstanding actor generally; similar with Pacino, Deniro, Ledger.
Gillipig wrote:Well then you agree with me! It does matter what actor plays what role. You can't swap any talented actor into a role and get the same result! Do you think Christian Bale would've been an as good Joker as Heath Ledger? Or would Heath ledger been an as good Batman as Christian Bale?
You shouldn't call yourself good looking btw lol. Comes off slightly egocentric.
Symmetry wrote:Good call on Leonardo DiCaprio. I used to have low expectations of him as a "pretty face" boyish actor, but the man has range. What's your take on Joseph Gordon-Levitt?
thegreekdog wrote:What movies was Sam Worthington in after Avatar? Was it Catch Me if You Can or Gangs of New York or The Departed? Because those were DiCaprio's movies after Titanic (with some shitty exceptions). And those were great marxing movies. And not because of DiCaprio... because of the story and the writing.
nagerous wrote:thegreekdog wrote:What movies was Sam Worthington in after Avatar? Was it Catch Me if You Can or Gangs of New York or The Departed? Because those were DiCaprio's movies after Titanic (with some shitty exceptions). And those were great marxing movies. And not because of DiCaprio... because of the story and the writing.
I think DiCaprio helps make movies like Shutter Island and The Departed what they are through his acting, which I can't fault. I think he was good from an early age too with solid acting performances in films like R+J and The Beach.
Also, I think in general, who has directed it tends to be the biggest pull in what films I go to see. If it is Scorcese, Nolan or Fincher or the Coens then it has to be seen.
Symmetry wrote:By range, I mean the ability of an actor to portray widely different characters and be believable. Not a dictionary definition, I'm afraid, but the best way I can put it.
With DiCaprio, in the past he was usually a down point for me going to see a movie. I was wrong, but wrong in a good way. Inception, Departed, Revolutionary Road, Shutter Island...
I went in with lower expectations, came out respecting him more and more.
I'd probably go and see a movie if Daniel Day-Lewis was involved.
nagerous wrote:Another film he was particularly good in was The Aviator, documenting film director Howard Hughes fall into insanity.
Gillipig wrote:Oh.....hi there. Don't bother watching this. It's just a little list I put together.
Ranked after date of birth.
Favorite Comedians:
Rowan Atkinson
John Cleese
Peter Sellers
Favorite "Serious" Actors:
Leonardo di Caprio
Russel Crowe
Tom Cruise
Sean Bean
Tom Hanks
Mel Gibson
Kevin Costner
Liam Neeson
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Harrison Ford
Sean Connery
Clark Gable
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Sackett58 wrote:My favorite with the movies I like them in.
Paul Newman
Cool Hand Luke
Slap Shot
The Sting
Robert De Niro
Godfather 2
Cape Fear
Bang the Drum Slowly
Jimmy Stewart
It's a Wonderful Life
Harvey
The Cheyenne Social Club
John Wayne
The Searchers
The Quiet Man
Donavon's Reef
thegreekdog wrote:Sackett58 wrote:My favorite with the movies I like them in.
Paul Newman
Cool Hand Luke
Slap Shot
The Sting
Robert De Niro
Godfather 2
Cape Fear
Bang the Drum Slowly
Jimmy Stewart
It's a Wonderful Life
Harvey
The Cheyenne Social Club
John Wayne
The Searchers
The Quiet Man
Donavon's Reef
This is a much more acceptable determination to me (directed at Gillipig). He's not saying John Wayne is a great actor, generally, he's saying he liked John Wayne's roles in the movies above. I can certainly do a list like that (and am embarrassed I did not think of it).
Gillipig wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Sackett58 wrote:My favorite with the movies I like them in.
Paul Newman
Cool Hand Luke
Slap Shot
The Sting
Robert De Niro
Godfather 2
Cape Fear
Bang the Drum Slowly
Jimmy Stewart
It's a Wonderful Life
Harvey
The Cheyenne Social Club
John Wayne
The Searchers
The Quiet Man
Donavon's Reef
This is a much more acceptable determination to me (directed at Gillipig). He's not saying John Wayne is a great actor, generally, he's saying he liked John Wayne's roles in the movies above. I can certainly do a list like that (and am embarrassed I did not think of it).
Really? Doesn't it go without saying that we appreciate them for the roles they've done? I don't like Leo because I think he's a good person or something like that. I like him because of his skill to portray characters. And if I see his face on a poster promoting a film, I'll be inclined to think it's going to be a good movie. Because a) He chooses good scripts. b) He's good at portraying characters. So yes I "like" Leo because of what he does in the movies. I don't understand what you thought I was talking about previously.
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thegreekdog wrote:Sackett58 wrote:My favorite with the movies I like them in.
Paul Newman
Cool Hand Luke
Slap Shot
The Sting
Robert De Niro
Godfather 2
Cape Fear
Bang the Drum Slowly
Jimmy Stewart
It's a Wonderful Life
Harvey
The Cheyenne Social Club
John Wayne
The Searchers
The Quiet Man
Donavon's Reef
This is a much more acceptable determination to me (directed at Gillipig). He's not saying John Wayne is a great actor, generally, he's saying he liked John Wayne's roles in the movies above. I can certainly do a list like that (and am embarrassed I did not think of it).
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