vodean wrote:just so you know there is also a jailkeeper running around
You are claiming role cop or flavor cop?
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vodean wrote:just so you know there is also a jailkeeper running around
Iron Butterfly wrote:vodean wrote:just so you know there is also a jailkeeper running around
You are claiming role cop or flavor cop?
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
chapcrap wrote:safariguy5 wrote:chap ...I'm not surprised that he'd vote me.
You're not surprised? Is it because I voted you yesterday? Or because before I voted you today, I said that you were the person I would vote for?chapcrap wrote:From my point of view on this day, I agree with most of what Iron Butterfly is saying. Just like yesterday, it seems to me like safariguy5 and edocsil are the ones I would vote for at this point.
I'm pretty sure that if anyone was surprised I voted for you, they need to pull their head out of their butt.safariguy5 wrote:If nothing, I've been consistent in my behavior.
What good is consistency when it's consistently scummy?
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
Iron Butterfly wrote:Something does not seem right to me about how we are looking the game. Perhaps it just my perception of it.
The only Red we have had was a one shot BP SK. The BP suggests it is protection from a NK or even a Vig kill. From the way everyone is talking we have SKs out there, Dexter being one of them.
Being an SK is a thankless job...fun but thankless as they receive no support and need to be last man standing. With the amount of cops that have been killed and Vodean seeming to have claimed one, it suggests to me that we needed the protection.
Does anyone really believe the bad guys are all lone wolves acting alone?? Maybe I am assuming to much about how others are perceiving the game.
What would Dexters win condition be if he is not Town? Eliminating the Sks? Then what? Would he be Town Vig or third party?
We have a claimed Blocker, Busdriver, and Perhaps a cop, who says there is a jailkeeper and a VT in a pear tree.
Just thinking out loud.
safariguy5 wrote:chapcrap wrote:safariguy5 wrote:chap ...I'm not surprised that he'd vote me.
You're not surprised? Is it because I voted you yesterday? Or because before I voted you today, I said that you were the person I would vote for?chapcrap wrote:From my point of view on this day, I agree with most of what Iron Butterfly is saying. Just like yesterday, it seems to me like safariguy5 and edocsil are the ones I would vote for at this point.
I'm pretty sure that if anyone was surprised I voted for you, they need to pull their head out of their butt.safariguy5 wrote:If nothing, I've been consistent in my behavior.
What good is consistency when it's consistently scummy?
Scummy only because you couldn't find anything wrong with my logic and therefore resort to trying to discredit me instead of my case.
chapcrap wrote:safariguy5 wrote:Fair enough. Not convinced about the VT claim, but we could have more interesting cases. I suggest revisiting it later, but for now, I will unvote vote chap due to LSU driving me and him.
Vote me, based on someone else's claim and after I say that I would vote you?
Great logic.... NOT!
vodean wrote:im not a cop. i got jailkept last night, and i was able to communicate with the jailor... they didnt reply to my message
fp.
Epitaph1 wrote:vodean wrote:im not a cop. i got jailkept last night, and i was able to communicate with the jailor... they didnt reply to my message
fp.
So, now we have:
LSU claims he bussed saf and chap
saf claims he RB'd BG
BG claims VT, so he cannot tell if RB'd
Edoc claims he was RB'd
vodeon claims jailed
chapcrap wrote:All of this talk about what could be with the characters in the season and trying to guess how strike wolf set up the game. It doesn't mean jack squat. Reading people's behaviors is what matters. Speaking of that.safariguy5 wrote:chapcrap wrote:safariguy5 wrote:chap ...I'm not surprised that he'd vote me.
You're not surprised? Is it because I voted you yesterday? Or because before I voted you today, I said that you were the person I would vote for?chapcrap wrote:From my point of view on this day, I agree with most of what Iron Butterfly is saying. Just like yesterday, it seems to me like safariguy5 and edocsil are the ones I would vote for at this point.
I'm pretty sure that if anyone was surprised I voted for you, they need to pull their head out of their butt.safariguy5 wrote:If nothing, I've been consistent in my behavior.
What good is consistency when it's consistently scummy?
Scummy only because you couldn't find anything wrong with my logic and therefore resort to trying to discredit me instead of my case.
Nothing wrong with your logic?
You voted BG because you tried to play the mod and say that this wasn't a VT game. You drug people along with you and completely wasted Day 2. And you won't even acknowledge that it was a wasted day. Then you come back and vote him again immediately today. And with the information you allege you have with your role, it actually seems to clear BG, not indict him!
Then, for no reason at all, other than I was allegedly bussed, you vote me. I wasn't the only one who saw a problem with that logic. You're logic is flawed. Clearly, that's what I was attacking. Take a look at the sarcasm I used against your logic:chapcrap wrote:safariguy5 wrote:Fair enough. Not convinced about the VT claim, but we could have more interesting cases. I suggest revisiting it later, but for now, I will unvote vote chap due to LSU driving me and him.
Vote me, based on someone else's claim and after I say that I would vote you?
Great logic.... NOT!
And anyone who can't see that needs to take the blinders off. Safari is acting scummy all over the place.
Iron Butterfly wrote:So I ask you..your the vet...you think there would be three blocking roles in the game??
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
chapcrap wrote:Iron Butterfly wrote:So I ask you..your the vet...you think there would be three blocking roles in the game??
Saf, I don't know why there was only one kill last night. Maybe take a look at all of these blocks people are throwing around. (see above) I don't know why you're trying to say I'm framing BG. If anything, I would say my actions have leaned toward defending him.
Basically, you're just saying a bunch of WIFOM and don't have a real defense for making bad cases.
Iron Butterfly wrote:So tell me Saf ...all game long you two have been fighting with Chap while ignoring the rest of the game.
Chap makes several points I agree with...what strikes me Saf is that all around us we have blocked people. Edocsil has claimed to be blocked, which makes him doubt you and Chap. I have had strong doubt about edocsil as evidence by my vote. that has changed and you have crept to the top of my list.
So now we have Vodean claiming he was jail kept or blocked.
That would suggest three blocker roles on this game or one of you three is lying. Edocsil says hes blocked. Vodean says hes blocked. You say you have been blocking BG.
With Vodeans claim...you completely ignore it and continue with the OMGUS fight with Chap.
So I ask you..your the vet...you think there would be three blocking roles in the game??
chapcrap wrote:strike wolf wrote:Vote Count
Bgthebrain (1)-Edocsil
Edocsil (1)-Iron Butterfly
LSU
Safari (1)-Epitaph
Chap (1)-Safari
Vodean
Epitaph
Chuck
Ironbutterfly
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
I voted for saf in the post right above yours.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
BGtheBrain wrote:I don't know who or what to believe so I'll vote the most annoying.
Worst case we won't have to read his crap anymore.
Vote edoc
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
edocsil wrote:BGtheBrain wrote:I don't know who or what to believe so I'll vote the most annoying.
Worst case we won't have to read his crap anymore.
Vote edoc
That's funny. You see, in mafia you are supposed to have things like cases and logic. I know this is a hard one for you, but you have to try to think a little bit. It may be hard, but the rewards are worthwhile. Instead of being easily decimated by the scum you can do a touch of sleuthing and WIN THE GAME.
To the others, I apologize for going full troll, but this game is really beginning to bug me. We have a few people sitting back, and we will just continue to NL until the right people are dead at night and we can progress.
Unvote vote Vodean
Mentor pair is obvious, and best lead possible. I will force a full claim out of him if possible.
Iron Butterfly wrote:edocsil wrote:BGtheBrain wrote:I don't know who or what to believe so I'll vote the most annoying.
Worst case we won't have to read his crap anymore.
Vote edoc
That's funny. You see, in mafia you are supposed to have things like cases and logic. I know this is a hard one for you, but you have to try to think a little bit. It may be hard, but the rewards are worthwhile. Instead of being easily decimated by the scum you can do a touch of sleuthing and WIN THE GAME.
To the others, I apologize for going full troll, but this game is really beginning to bug me. We have a few people sitting back, and we will just continue to NL until the right people are dead at night and we can progress.
Unvote vote Vodean
Mentor pair is obvious, and best lead possible. I will force a full claim out of him if possible.
You cant force anything if people don't follow along or you have nothing to present. If you don't believe him fine but follow your own advice/sarcastic wit.
This is the thing about Vodeans claim. I believe he was blocked. You can second guess him all you want but the mason part is the last thing I would add to the claim.
How would one use the mason function safely if you have no idea who is on the other end? To what end would it be used this game?
You are asking Vodean to claim his role while in my book he has been forthcoming with info. My only problem with him, and it is a problem is his lack of posting or clarity.
Someone also brought up the point of maybe there is only one sk and we do have a mafia. How would that explain the SK being mafia red? Why was he mafia red. Maybe the reason we have so many cops and blockers is that Mafia Red SK could communicate with his team? red tells me more then one AND Mafia.
What I need from Vodean is HOW he knows the person who blocked him is a jail keeper?? Seeing how he has volunteered this information he needs to be a bit more vocal in this game. I would like to know his thoughts on the matter.
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