JK9++ ENDGAME Mafia Wins

[betiko]

I am Town Tracker.

N1 track Campin, he visited nobody.
N2 track Violet, she visited nobody ergo, she is town

or mafia goon.
this was fucking stupid guys. unvote vote betiko for suggesting this. all the PRs are outed, and we have no info.

Nope, if T=5 or T=7, there is one scum alive. They must have perform the kill on N2.

or there are two scum and they are both claiming VT. we have no way of knowing. they have total control

is it because you don't want to understand, or because like always you are just skimming through posts? I need sam to claim for further analysis.
vodean, I give you an F to your math test.

[pancakemix]

please tell me we have... a doc!!

Wish granted.

Also, willing to be lynched for science.

why would you say that? why wouldn't you not want to be night killed for science? if you are the only power role you are busted because T would be an even number!

That would be an awful gamble on my part. If T=5 or 7 and 2 scum are dead, I'm alone. I'd have to bank on someone else lying to keep me alive.

[samgrossy]

Sorry guys. I've been a loser player this week. I have excuses, but who cares.

I caught up with the thread. I will claim. And of course you all know what it is.

I'm a Vanilla Townie. I'm not sure that this give you any info to go on.

I'll be back tomorrow night.

[VioIet]

Well I think its safe to assume that at least one person is faking VT. I believe Jonty's tracker claim.

I may need to go and re-look voting patterns. That's how we caught Count yesterday.

[betiko]

Ok thanks Sam!

you obviously were going to be VT, but just in case someone did a really bad play between you, pancake and jonty and we ended up with 3 power roles, you never know! so I can talk openly now.
So yes, we know for sure that we have a mafia 1 shot bus driver as the only scum left. We also know for sure that T=5.
The other deduction from this mass claim is that jonty and pancake are cleared, as only 1 person can be lying and if there are any power roles, they have to go by pair (T being an odd number). From my perspective Violet is cleared. She started some really good cases like the one on count and was tracked by jonty with no results. this is not a rock solid fact such as pancake and jonty (there is no way they could not be telling the truth), it's just my conviction. So here are the suspects left from my point of view:

not suspects (from my perspective of course):
Jonty
thechuck51 (pancakemix 2.0)
Betiko
Violet

suspects:
vodean: his reaction to the mass claim and not getting anything of what was going on makes him trip my scumdar real bad. He was already the top one on the list for a lynch today by most of us and my vote was already on him.
Iron Butterfly: hard to say, hasn't participated that much and last time I played with him I was convinced he was scum but he was not.. still a suspect but not on top of my list
trinicardinal: was quite helpfull to town and all, but he's a good player and knows how to balance things. I don't fully trust him. there is also something about the timing of his claim... I don't know..
samgrossy: hard to say, hasn't participated much and his contributions are quite townish.. is on the list but he's rather my last suspect (can be wrong! never played him!)

we are 7vs1. if we fail, day 4 will be 5vs1 (with 1 chance out of 6 that pancake saves the right person); day 5 3vs1 and then we can't miss.
Therefore, there are 6 people who are potentially scum and we have 3 tries with 2 confirmed power roles. odds are on our side.

what do you guys think?

[trinicardinal]

@ Vio - I agree someone has to be fake claiming.

@ betiko yes we have a pretty good chance overall I'd say. vodean is definitely the main suspect still as far as I am concerned. I know you say that is his style but if so its a really scummy style. As for your feelings about me - I'm almost feeling like I'm back in NBC mafia except that the roles are a little different. Lynch me if you wish but if you do just make sure you get mafia before town loses.

[Iron Butterfly]

vOTE vODEAN

The whole idea of him arguing that the reason he has not been playing because he is bored and a VT strikes me as completely self serving.

[betiko]

hey yoshi can we have a votecount please?

[jonty125]

I don't mind lynching vode first, might as well wait for a vote count if you requested one.

[betiko]

I don't mind lynching vode first, might as well wait for a vote count if you requested one.

we're all fine with that i guess, just that i don't know if he's at l-1, 2 or whatever..

[vodean]

vOTE vODEAN

The whole idea of him arguing that the reason he has not been playing because he is bored and a VT strikes me as completely self serving.

it is completely self serving. its not a reason to lynch me. im fairly certain trini is scum, and maybe IB. i dont think samgrossy is.

[trinicardinal]

vOTE vODEAN

The whole idea of him arguing that the reason he has not been playing because he is bored and a VT strikes me as completely self serving.

it is completely self serving. its not a reason to lynch me. im fairly certain trini is scum, and maybe IB. i dont think samgrossy is.

Yeah I'm scum and yet maybe IB is as well but from the numbers we only have one scum remaining. Something is very wrong with that logic. My vote stays on you vodean.... and I'm so scummy that my vote has bascially been on you since D2 because of your actions .

[jonty125]

vOTE vODEAN

The whole idea of him arguing that the reason he has not been playing because he is bored and a VT strikes me as completely self serving.

it is completely self serving. its not a reason to lynch me. im fairly certain trini is scum, and maybe IB. i dont think samgrossy is.

Yeah, what trini said we have only one scum left.

[Iron Butterfly]

vOTE vODEAN

The whole idea of him arguing that the reason he has not been playing because he is bored and a VT strikes me as completely self serving.

it is completely self serving. its not a reason to lynch me. im fairly certain trini is scum, and maybe IB. i dont think samgrossy is.

So other then voting you why would you think I am scummy?

[betiko]

ok since we have no news i counted the day 3 votes, correct me if I'm wrong:


vodean (3) - Violet, Betiko, Iron butterfly
Betiko (1) - Vodean
No lynch (2) - Jonty, Pancake

trini and samgrossi didn't vote

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline is ?

[trinicardinal]

ok since we have no news i counted the day 3 votes, correct me if I'm wrong:


vodean (3) - Violet, Betiko, Iron butterfly
Betiko (1) - Vodean
No lynch (2) - Jonty, Pancake

trini and samgrossi didn't vote

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline is ?

you missed my vote ... I voted for vodean with my first post of the day - see here

Well with the SK dead, T MUST be an odd number.

So if T=1, we have, Mafia 1-Shot Bus Driver, Mafia JOAT, left alive.
If T=3, we have, Mafia Goon, Mafia JOAT, left alive.
If T=5, we have Mafia 1-Shot Bus Driver, left alive.
If T=7 OR GREATER, Mafia 1-Shot Bus Driver, left alive.

I know that the setup for T=5, and T=7, is the same but I've put it in to share as much information out there as possible.

Agreed that T must be an odd number, but there is one slight difference with the T5,T7 situation jonty... with T=5 we have 2 town power roles, with T=7 we have no town power roles. so here's hoping we have a T= 5 or T=3 situation.... because that will give town some extra information at least. vodean tripped my radars and his voting Count turned out to be quite lucky for us but I think that was mere luck from his part. based on this -

this game is moving far to slowly for me to be interested enough to go back and read. unvote vote CB so we can move on. i realize that i am going to be pressured a lot tomorrow, but thats ok. cop, you are welcome to investigate me, but dont out yourself when you find out that i am town. just let me die.

Again I say its scummy. If he is truly a townie and is not interested in going back to read then he is no help to us. he's just as likely to lynch town because he is bored and its only by good fortune that something like that did not happen with Count. He knows he's gonna get pressure today obviously and he's prepared for it so I'm gonna get the ball rolling on him VOTE: vodean

[betiko]

ok sorry trini, missed it. sam you needed to vote after your first post...

vodean is at l-1, hammer time!!

[DoomYoshi]

ok since we have no news i counted the day 3 votes, correct me if I'm wrong:


vodean (3) - Violet, Betiko, Iron butterfly, trinicardinal
Betiko (1) - Vodean
No lynch (2) - Jonty, Pancake

trini and samgrossi didn't vote

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline is September 21st

Thanks betiko

[jonty125]

unvote, vote vodean

[betiko]

bamm! did we win yoshi?

[DoomYoshi]

Vodean has 24 hours to submit a scene.

[DoomYoshi]

Vodean, vanilla townie has been lynched. It is now night 3.

[vodean]

good game. good luck town, but the way you follow scum, i dont see you as having much hope. sorry i didnt get the scene up

[betiko]

good game. good luck town, but the way you follow scum, i dont see you as having much hope. sorry i didnt get the scene up

no offense but what about following the game and not saying that much illogical crap all the time, maybe we wouldn't all think you're scum in every single game you play..

[vodean]

good game. good luck town, but the way you follow scum, i dont see you as having much hope. sorry i didnt get the scene up

no offense but what about following the game and not saying that much illogical crap all the time, maybe we wouldn't all think you're scum in every single game you play..

you need to learn the difference between being scummy and scum. the reason you always try to lynch me is that you cant tell the difference, and i scare you because you think i might be scum. of course, scum gets confused too when im town, so i am an even more powerful weapon. and when, as in the majority of the time , i am scum, i can keep playing like normal, or look more town. you'll never know.