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BigBallinStalin wrote:Of course, with Keynesian economics, which dominates the Fed, only the short-term matters. Never mind those questions about unintended consequences and long-term problems. STOP COMPLAINING, says Bernanke. I mean, he's an economist! How can you argue against that!
So if we keep pumping money into the financial sector, surely, unemployment will decrease, investment will increase, production will increase, exports will increase, and the Boom will be back, baby! And if that doesn't happen, then we'll keep pumping money into the financial sector. And if it doesn't happen sufficiently, guess what? We'll keep pumping money into the financial sector. Same marginally weak outcomes??? Keep pumping that money into the financial sector! Yeah, works like a charm. That's why GDP is at the long-run growth rate of over 3%, and unemployment is down to 5%, amirite?
How I can I be wrong? My econometrics say that I must be right! No, never mind that the Fed recently published two of my papers discussing how beautiful Bernanke's bald head is! Controlled experiments are impossible with econometrics? Yeah, so what. Several highly aggregated economic indicators do not explain reality? SILENCE!!!
Four words: stochaistc dynamic equilibrium models. YEAHH!!! Sounds sexy! Surely, this economic model is correct! Look at how we saved the economy! We just need more stimulus.... UHHGHGHHH... more stimulus. More... Easy credit into the financial sector! That'll do the trick! Look at the jobs SOAR!!! (to foreign countries or off the government-calculated employment rates).
Macroeconomics is a SCIENCE!! Never mind that our equations hold no known constants. Never mind that these constants are inaccurately estimated, thus faulty for future predictions!! Keynesianism is a SCIENCE!! A SCIENCE!! A SCIENCE!!!!!
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Crazyirishman wrote:I still don't see why shiny metals are so valuable, can somebody explain this to me? I really see corn and wheat as more valuable/tangible/useful than gold and silver, but I feel like I'm the only one.
john9blue wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Of course, with Keynesian economics, which dominates the Fed, only the short-term matters. Never mind those questions about unintended consequences and long-term problems. STOP COMPLAINING, says Bernanke. I mean, he's an economist! How can you argue against that!
So if we keep pumping money into the financial sector, surely, unemployment will decrease, investment will increase, production will increase, exports will increase, and the Boom will be back, baby! And if that doesn't happen, then we'll keep pumping money into the financial sector. And if it doesn't happen sufficiently, guess what? We'll keep pumping money into the financial sector. Same marginally weak outcomes??? Keep pumping that money into the financial sector! Yeah, works like a charm. That's why GDP is at the long-run growth rate of over 3%, and unemployment is down to 5%, amirite?
How I can I be wrong? My econometrics say that I must be right! No, never mind that the Fed recently published two of my papers discussing how beautiful Bernanke's bald head is! Controlled experiments are impossible with econometrics? Yeah, so what. Several highly aggregated economic indicators do not explain reality? SILENCE!!!
Four words: stochaistc dynamic equilibrium models. YEAHH!!! Sounds sexy! Surely, this economic model is correct! Look at how we saved the economy! We just need more stimulus.... UHHGHGHHH... more stimulus. More... Easy credit into the financial sector! That'll do the trick! Look at the jobs SOAR!!! (to foreign countries or off the government-calculated employment rates).
Macroeconomics is a SCIENCE!! Never mind that our equations hold no known constants. Never mind that these constants are inaccurately estimated, thus faulty for future predictions!! Keynesianism is a SCIENCE!! A SCIENCE!! A SCIENCE!!!!!
you've finally gone off the deep end...
Crazyirishman wrote:I still don't see why shiny metals are so valuable, can somebody explain this to me? I really see corn and wheat as more valuable/tangible/useful than gold and silver, but I feel like I'm the only one.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Corn is bulkier, thus more is needed to trade for something. It rots, must be preserved at a higher cost, its quality varies, its weight varies, etc.
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saxitoxin wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Corn is bulkier, thus more is needed to trade for something. It rots, must be preserved at a higher cost, its quality varies, its weight varies, etc.
Shows what you know. I've been investing 100% in seeds: 50% corn seed, 20% tomato seed, 20% alfalfa seed and 10% PhatScotty seed (with which to grow my post-collapse warrior army).
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BigBallinStalin wrote:The recent monetary stimulus allows some people to refinance their mortgages at lower interest rates. The Fed is estimated to be owning about 55% of all monthly mortgage assets by the end of the year. Talk about "monopolistic" practices!
BigBallinStalin wrote:How will people like it when they realize that the Fed is simply transferring money from taxpayers into banks for reasons which the Fed caused?
thegreekdog wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:How will people like it when they realize that the Fed is simply transferring money from taxpayers into banks for reasons which the Fed caused?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say they won't care enough to do anything about it.
BigBallinStalin wrote:thegreekdog wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:How will people like it when they realize that the Fed is simply transferring money from taxpayers into banks for reasons which the Fed caused?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say they won't care enough to do anything about it.
I would agree with you until more people start showing how monetary policies by the Fed ruin their savings and transfer wealth to the banks.
Do a sensational enough piece on this, and people would listen.
As far as action goes.... I don't have much of an argument against that. People will vote for either main party anyway so, <shrugs>. But I'd imagine that it would create further division and mistrust between people and the federal government, which to me are good things.
thegreekdog wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:thegreekdog wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:How will people like it when they realize that the Fed is simply transferring money from taxpayers into banks for reasons which the Fed caused?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say they won't care enough to do anything about it.
I would agree with you until more people start showing how monetary policies by the Fed ruin their savings and transfer wealth to the banks.
Do a sensational enough piece on this, and people would listen.
As far as action goes.... I don't have much of an argument against that. People will vote for either main party anyway so, <shrugs>. But I'd imagine that it would create further division and mistrust between people and the federal government, which to me are good things.
Yeah, I don't think it will cause further division and mistrust between people and the federal government. One would think there would be many more people mistrusting the federal government given the recent history. Given the lack of widespread information on these subjects and given the failures of the federal government in the past without repurcussions, I'm not hopeful.
BigBallinStalin wrote:thegreekdog wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:thegreekdog wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:How will people like it when they realize that the Fed is simply transferring money from taxpayers into banks for reasons which the Fed caused?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say they won't care enough to do anything about it.
I would agree with you until more people start showing how monetary policies by the Fed ruin their savings and transfer wealth to the banks.
Do a sensational enough piece on this, and people would listen.
As far as action goes.... I don't have much of an argument against that. People will vote for either main party anyway so, <shrugs>. But I'd imagine that it would create further division and mistrust between people and the federal government, which to me are good things.
Yeah, I don't think it will cause further division and mistrust between people and the federal government. One would think there would be many more people mistrusting the federal government given the recent history. Given the lack of widespread information on these subjects and given the failures of the federal government in the past without repurcussions, I'm not hopeful.
TGD! You're turning into a grouchy old man! Where's your youthful optimism!?
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