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bedub1 wrote:When rMoney states that he won't lower taxes on the rich, but his plan clearly does this, should he be disqualified from the election?
Night Strike wrote:By the way, why do you only name Romney in your post as a liar? What about the lies Obama has told about Libya, just to name one?
Timminz wrote:Why is it that political advertisements are the only type of ads that are not bound by "truth in advertising" laws?
bedub1 wrote:Timminz wrote:Why is it that political advertisements are the only type of ads that are not bound by "truth in advertising" laws?
Good point! And if somebody is the Commander in Chief, shouldn't they be held to military standards, for things such as "conduct unbecoming of an officer"?
AndyDufresne wrote:I hear the politicians calling in a drone strike on bedub. Quick, run!
--Andy
bedub1 wrote:Night Strike wrote:By the way, why do you only name Romney in your post as a liar? What about the lies Obama has told about Libya, just to name one?
Because I didn't just read an article about Obama lying. I read one about rMoney lying. Specifically, how it's incredibly difficult to debate somebody when you don't know what his position is. Given it changes on a daily basis, and changes based upon who he's talking to. The reason he "won" the debate is cause he lied his ass off to make himself appeal to lots of people. He backtracked on everything he said during his campaign, and his position has now swung 180 degrees to the other side.
I know that if he is elected, it will swing right back to the other side.
Night Strike wrote:If Romney was lying and it was "so" obvious, why didn't Obama call him out on it? And we know Obama's only line of attack on Romney in the debate was a lie when he claimed Romney would cut taxes by $5 trillion. Even one of his top campaign officials stated that today.
patches70 wrote:I was talking about this with someone else on another forum, having a good laugh about it. I think I'll copy it here-
bedub1 wrote:You should have kept that to yourself.
patches70 wrote:bedub1 wrote:You should have kept that to yourself.
Are you serious? You believe Obama wasn't lying when he said Romney wants to give rich people a $5 trillion tax break?
You do know that is a complete lie, right? That the number of five trillion dollars is all BS. Please don't tell me you believe that lie Obama told and is still telling.
Five trillion dollar tax break, it's absurd to even say that out loud. Obama is counting on people to not take a moment and consider exactly what five trillion dollars really is. I'm boggled to how he even came to pick that particularly large number to state. I guess the adage, "the bigger the lie the more likely people will believe it" comes into play, maybe, I dunno.
But if you wanna believe that lie, then have at it. Just keep thinking it's "the other guy" who lies and not "your guy". You'll be well served thinking like that......
It is true that a central facet of Mitt Romney’s economic plan is a 20 percent across-the-board reduction in marginal tax rates, plus elimination of the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax (AMT). Do the math on how much money the federal government would forgo as a result of this, and it’s about $456 billion a year. Over 10 years, that rounds up to $5 trillion. That's the calculus behind the "$5 trillion tax cut" figure that Obama cites.
bedub1 wrote:Again we have this same topic. Should it be illegal for a politician to lie? What should the punishment be?
IE when rMoney states that his medical plan will cover pre-existing conditions during the debate, but it in fact will not cover them, should he be arrested?
When rMoney states that he won't lower taxes on the rich, but his plan clearly does this, should he be disqualified from the election?
If a government employee tells you something, and you make life decisions based upon that information, but the government employee is lying to you and does the exact opposite, do you have a path for recourse?
Timminz wrote:Why is it that political advertisements are the only type of ads that are not bound by "truth in advertising" laws?
bedub1 wrote:Timminz wrote:Why is it that political advertisements are the only type of ads that are not bound by "truth in advertising" laws?
Good point! And if somebody is the Commander in Chief, shouldn't they be held to military standards, for things such as "conduct unbecoming of an officer"?
bedub wrote:Basically his cuts will amount to 4.8 trillion over 10 years. He says his cuts will be revenue neutral, but we know that is a lie.
bedub's article wrote:and it’s about $456 billion a year.
bedub wrote:He honestly thinks that his 14% tax rate is too high
bedub wrote:he middle class's 25-35% tax rate is too low
bedub's article wrote:It is true that a central facet of Mitt Romney’s economic plan is a 20 percent across-the-board reduction in marginal tax rates,
Joe Biden wrote:My heart breaks, come on man. You know the phrase they always use? Obama and Biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. Guess what? Yes we do in one regard. We want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn’t have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. That’s not a tax raise, that’s called fairness where I come from.
Nobunaga wrote:... Obama gets his ass beat.... then suddenly we see the largest jump in employment since 1983? ....
... It would be suspicious even before looking at how they cooked the numbers. After that, yes, this kind of deceit should have consequences. But of course it won't.
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bedub1 wrote:Again we have this same topic. Should it be illegal for a politician to lie? What should the punishment be?
IE when rMoney states that his medical plan will cover pre-existing conditions during the debate, but it in fact will not cover them, should he be arrested?
When rMoney states that he won't lower taxes on the rich, but his plan clearly does this, should he be disqualified from the election?
If a government employee tells you something, and you make life decisions based upon that information, but the government employee is lying to you and does the exact opposite, do you have a path for recourse?
bedub1 wrote:
If a government employee tells you something, and you make life decisions based upon that information, but the government employee is lying to you and does the exact opposite, do you have a path for recourse?
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