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aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
rishaed wrote:Seriously guys?? Both of you are experienced!
[quote= "lordvoldemort"]11. Once your death scene has been posted, it's over for you. You can no longer post anything related to the game. Whining is alright, **Voices from beyond the grave** are alright, as long as nothing of substance is revealed. This means you can post something like "Damn you mafia!" or "Oh well. Go town!" but you cannot post and add to the discussion. This is a serious offence.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
Damn it, if you had just claimed JOAT we could have avoided wasting so much time on you yesterday and potentially better deployed or actions last night.lord voldemort wrote:Gillipig - Ra's al Ghul (JOAT) Has been shot in the face.
And thus we have a perfect example of why rules need to be followed and why Vodean should be blacklisted.betiko wrote:
Which raises the question of why a scum roleblocker would ever not go anywhere.strike wolf wrote:So Vodean really had gone nowhere night 1 I guess.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
strike wolf wrote:Either he actually ran out of time because of inactivity or he himself was blocked. At least those are the only two scenarios that occur to me.
spiesr wrote:You don't want anyone to be replaced? Not even Jak was has left the game or Illiad who hasn't posted in weeks? Or did you just not really think about what yours words meant when you wrote them?vodean wrote:i dont want anyone replaced... i am just pointing out something that the target of my pressure has said./ wrote:It is extremely hypocritical that someone who hasn't posted in 4 whole days wants someone who hasn't posted in three weeks replaced.While I see that the speed with which things have turned is a bit surprising, are you sure you have to "appropriate" order of events correct? Isn't it supposed to go person makes a case, other people show their support, the person the case was pointed at makes their defense? Pointing your finger at people for voting for you before you make your response doesn't make any sense boy. If nobody is supporting an argument against you how much of a defense would really be required?vodean wrote:I think we need to look at the people who jumped on the bandwagon without waiting to hear a defense, and without giving appropriate reasons.
Anyhow, I thought you would know by now that launching a general accusation against those you voted for you doesn't really work in any sense. It certainly doesn't suffice as a substitute for a proper response.
All that said, I have mixed feelings about this case. Vodean definitely looks scummy right now, and most of his responses just make him look worse. In my past experience with him, Vodean tends drop quite a few, often fairly obvious, tells a scum. When you are his partner the game becomes a case of watching him incriminate himself and make associations with you and other scum-mates while you just have to watch and see how long it takes the town to pick up on it.
On the other hand, he also manages to do a commendable job of doing the exact same thing when he is playing as town.
So, I now have to wonder, how much of this case is just Vodean being Vodean, and how much could actually mean something.
betiko wrote:spiesr wrote:I am curious as to what led you to this conclusion.betiko wrote:so he go lynched without even claiming? that sucks. i think he was VT. thought he would claim and fight a little..
it's just probable that he has no night action as gillipig suggests, and if he isn't scum that would give good chances for vt, it was my original thought on him let's see.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
strike wolf wrote:Why would Gillipig be a bad kill? He had been connected with Vodean and with Vodean coming back mafia role blocker there was reasonable amount of evidence to assume that Gillipig had lied about his tracking action especially when there was already another tracker claim on the table. Seems like a fairly good vig kill to me.
In my opinion, there was enough doubt in Gillipig's claim that after Vodean popped as a role that should have gone somewhere Night 1 a vigilante would have been justified in killing him.betiko wrote:gillipig... I don't know, i really had a non scum vibe about him at some point. I think the whole wifom between me squirrel and crazy made the mafia not take too much risks.
but what do you guys think, which one killed droz which one killed gillipig? sk or mafia?
i hope our vigilante didn't do something that stupid as to kill one of these 2.
At that point in time we didn't have much to go in regards to Vodean's role beyond that he didn't go anywhere night 1. While night actions are kind of the default for power roles, there are plenty of roles of all alignments that could have not gone anywhere. Basically I really had know idea what his role might be and was curious as to how you had as much confidence in your thoughts about his role as you did. I haven't seen any evidence of VT's being in this game and thought it odd that you jumped to that conclusion.betiko wrote:what were you thinking at that point before the result spiesr?betiko wrote:it's just probable that he has no night action as gillipig suggests, and if he isn't scum that would give good chances for vt, it was my original thought on him let's see.spiesr wrote:I am curious as to what led you to this conclusion.betiko wrote:so he go lynched without even claiming? that sucks. i think he was VT. thought he would claim and fight a little..
spiesr wrote:In my opinion, there was enough doubt in Gillipig's claim that after Vodean popped as a role that should have gone somewhere Night 1 a vigilante would have been justified in killing him.betiko wrote:gillipig... I don't know, i really had a non scum vibe about him at some point. I think the whole wifom between me squirrel and crazy made the mafia not take too much risks.
but what do you guys think, which one killed droz which one killed gillipig? sk or mafia?
i hope our vigilante didn't do something that stupid as to kill one of these 2.At that point in time we didn't have much to go in regards to Vodean's role beyond that he didn't go anywhere night 1. While night actions are kind of the default for power roles, there are plenty of roles of all alignments that could have not gone anywhere. Basically I really had know idea what his role might be and was curious as to how you had as much confidence in your thoughts about his role as you did. I haven't seen any evidence of VT's being in this game and thought it odd that you jumped to that conclusion.betiko wrote:what were you thinking at that point before the result spiesr?betiko wrote:it's just probable that he has no night action as gillipig suggests, and if he isn't scum that would give good chances for vt, it was my original thought on him let's see.spiesr wrote:I am curious as to what led you to this conclusion.betiko wrote:so he go lynched without even claiming? that sucks. i think he was VT. thought he would claim and fight a little..
jak111 wrote:Didn't bus Betiko with anybody.
Vote Betiko I have a feeling he's scum, but till anyone claims a bus, I'm leaving my vote here.
1.) Don't wanna be last on bomb if he IS bomb and tracker is lying.
2.) Might as well get ready to lynch if tracker is not.
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