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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby sempaispellcheck on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:43 am

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Dukasaur wrote:Makes no sense to me.

What useful information is gained from claiming names if you're not claiming roles anyway?


interesting. so if you think it could brng nothing useful to town, how would it bring more to antitown? because basically what you are implying if i understand well is that we would have more to lose and less to gain.

I am implying nothing.

You're assuming if I ask a question that it must be rhetorical, and that there must be some hidden implication. There isn't; it's just a question. This is my fourth mafia game, and I didn't win any of the previous three, so I'm just figuring things out as I go along.

I can see what use there is in claiming roles, and I see what use there is in claiming nothing at all, but I honestly don't know what use there is in a compromise measure. What will we know from a name claim that we don't already know? It's my question, and it is NOT rhetorical, but really a question.

In betiko's defense, Duka, I assumed your question was rhetorical as well, especially since you said the idea of a nameclaim without roleclaiming makes no sense to you.

A roleclaim might force town power roles to fakeclaim in order to avoid being targeted by scum or the SK at night.
A nameclaim without roles would give us an idea of who is town and who isn't without potentially revealing town power roles to the scum and the SK.
I could very easily be wrong, but that's the way I see it.
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby vodean on Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:05 am

jonty, claim please. full or name only.
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby sempaispellcheck on Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:41 am

jonty hasn't posted in here since Thursday morning, and hasn't been on CC since Friday morning. Hmm.
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby betiko on Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:11 am

sempaispellcheck wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
betiko wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Makes no sense to me.

What useful information is gained from claiming names if you're not claiming roles anyway?


interesting. so if you think it could brng nothing useful to town, how would it bring more to antitown? because basically what you are implying if i understand well is that we would have more to lose and less to gain.

I am implying nothing.

You're assuming if I ask a question that it must be rhetorical, and that there must be some hidden implication. There isn't; it's just a question. This is my fourth mafia game, and I didn't win any of the previous three, so I'm just figuring things out as I go along.

I can see what use there is in claiming roles, and I see what use there is in claiming nothing at all, but I honestly don't know what use there is in a compromise measure. What will we know from a name claim that we don't already know? It's my question, and it is NOT rhetorical, but really a question.

In betiko's defense, Duka, I assumed your question was rhetorical as well, especially since you said the idea of a nameclaim without roleclaiming makes no sense to you.

A roleclaim might force town power roles to fakeclaim in order to avoid being targeted by scum or the SK at night.
A nameclaim without roles would give us an idea of who is town and who isn't without potentially revealing town power roles to the scum and the SK.
I could very easily be wrong, but that's the way I see it.


duka it's like my 4th or 5th as well. the fact that you ended your phrase by "anyway" made it sound really rhetorical, even rereading it I can't see how it could sound like a genuine question..

the fact that we have rolenames that seem to follow a pattern should help, and as I already said if the anti town don't have fakeclaim names they might as well mess up and give some element names that are already "taken" by someone else. The safest nameclaims right now are the noble gases, and there are only 3 left for 7 people.

And no sempai, a town powerrole should NEVER fakeclaim. That would make them a sure lynch target.
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby sempaispellcheck on Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:25 am

betiko wrote:no sempai, a town powerrole should NEVER fakeclaim. That would make them a sure lynch target.

That makes sense. I did say I could be wrong. In fact, since, as you guys know, this is my first game, I kind of expect to be wrong a lot. But I'll learn a lot, too.
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby jonty125 on Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:57 am

sempaispellcheck wrote:jonty hasn't posted in here since Thursday morning, and hasn't been on CC since Friday morning. Hmm.


See Vacation Thread

I'm Nitrogen. Would you like the role to go with it as
vodean wrote:jonty, claim please. full or name only.
this well confused me.
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby betiko on Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:09 am

jonty125 wrote:
sempaispellcheck wrote:jonty hasn't posted in here since Thursday morning, and hasn't been on CC since Friday morning. Hmm.


See Vacation Thread

I'm Nitrogen. Would you like the role to go with it as
vodean wrote:jonty, claim please. full or name only.
this well confused me.


we are fine with that for now jonty, give your role only if you feel like it.

still alive, unclaimed:
DoomYoshi
sempaispellcheck
thehippo8
Dukasaur
thechuck51
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still alive, unproven claims (by order of claims):
no survivors: selenium (Se), VT (day 1)
betiko: sulfur (S), VT (day 1)
safariguy: xenon (Xe), VT (day 1)
gillipig: helium (He), VT (day 2)
vodean: Argon (Ar), VT (day 2)
Jonty125: Nitrogen (N), ? (day2)

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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:29 am

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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:29 am

Next will be dukasaur
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:38 am

Krypton

Noble Gas

VT unless Superman enters the game, in which case I become a one-shot Vig.






















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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby thehippo8 on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:02 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Next will be dukasaur

Stop doing that ... next was sempai!
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby betiko on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:07 pm

Dukasaur wrote:Krypton

Noble Gas

VT unless Superman enters the game, in which case I become a one-shot Vig.


dude either you role claim or you don't...



















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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby betiko on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:10 pm

still alive, unclaimed:
DoomYoshi
sempaispellcheck
thehippo8
Dukasaur
thechuck51
/

still alive, unproven claims (by order of claims):
no survivors: selenium (Se), VT (day 1)
betiko: sulfur (S), VT (day 1)
safariguy: xenon (Xe), VT (day 1)
gillipig: helium (He), VT (day 2)
vodean: Argon (Ar), VT (day 2)
Jonty125: Nitrogen (N), ? (day 2)
Doomyoshi: Oxygen (0), ? (day 2)
Dukasaur: Krypton (Kr), VT (day 2)
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby betiko on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:11 pm

EBWOP

still alive, unclaimed:
sempaispellcheck
thehippo8
thechuck51
/

still alive, unproven claims (by order of claims):
no survivors: selenium (Se), VT (day 1)
betiko: sulfur (S), VT (day 1)
safariguy: xenon (Xe), VT (day 1)
gillipig: helium (He), VT (day 2)
vodean: Argon (Ar), VT (day 2)
Jonty125: Nitrogen (N), ? (day 2)
Doomyoshi: Oxygen (0), ? (day 2)
Dukasaur: Krypton (Kr), VT (day 2)
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:21 pm

thehippo8 wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Next will be dukasaur

Stop doing that ... next was sempai!


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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby sempaispellcheck on Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:00 pm

Carbon, C.
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby betiko on Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:16 pm

hippo's turn!

still alive, unclaimed:
thehippo8
thechuck51
/

still alive, unproven claims (by order of claims):
no survivors: selenium (Se), VT (day 1)
betiko: sulfur (S), VT (day 1)
safariguy: xenon (Xe), VT (day 1)
gillipig: helium (He), VT (day 2)
vodean: Argon (Ar), VT (day 2)
Jonty125: Nitrogen (N), ? (day 2)
Doomyoshi: Oxygen (0), ? (day 2)
Dukasaur: Krypton (Kr), VT (day 2)
Sempaispellcheck Carbon (C), ? (day2)
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby NoSurvivors on Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:24 pm

hippo? chuck? /?
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby thehippo8 on Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:33 pm

Sorry, busy at work. I wanted it all in order because that decreases the likelihood of people being able to lie!

Anyway, I am VT - Radon (Rn).
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby thechuck51 on Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:44 pm

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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby betiko on Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:17 pm

so we almost have our full list:

no survivors: selenium (Se), VT (day 1)
betiko: sulfur (S), VT (day 1)
safariguy: xenon (Xe), VT (day 1)
gillipig: helium (He), VT (day 2)
vodean: Argon (Ar), VT (day 2)
Jonty125: Nitrogen (N), ? (day 2)
Doomyoshi: Oxygen (0), ? (day 2)
Dukasaur: Krypton (Kr), VT (day 2)
Sempaispellcheck: Carbon (C), ? (day2)
thehippo8: Radon (Rn), VT (day2)
thechuck51: Neon, ? (day2)
/: ?


highly probable now that anti town got a fakeclaim. now what do you guys think, did sam make it easy for us and really used the noble gases first for VTs, filled in the remaining VT roles with insignificant non metals non noble gases; power roles with more significant non metal elements and gave the remaining ones for fakeclaims?

can we really see all noble gases as the most cleared of us all? really not tempted to do this. let's wait for /'s claim and let's not forget that green+orange on the table = 13... there were fakeclaims for sure... and for what we know, the godfather didn't have a noble gas fakeclaim...
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Vote Count, Day 2.7

Postby samgrossy on Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:14 pm

Vote Count, Day 2.7

Betiko - (1) Vodean, L-6
thehippo8 - (1) Betiko L-6
Gillipig - (5) sempaispellcheck, DoomYoshi, Jonty125, Dukasaur, safariguy5 L-2

Not Voting - (5) NoSurvivors, Gillipig, thechuck51, /, thehippo8,

To make gameplay easier for players, the player(s) closest to lynch at the time of vote count will be in red bold

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline for Day 2 is 10 PM EST, October 25th. That's 3 days from now.
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby sempaispellcheck on Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:00 am

I know I'm a tad late on this, but I want to formally apologize to jonty for casting undue suspicion on him - I hadn't read the Vacation Thread.

That's all for now.
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby jonty125 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:40 am

sempaispellcheck wrote:I know I'm a tad late on this, but I want to formally apologize to jonty for casting undue suspicion on him - I hadn't read the Vacation Thread.

That's all for now.


Hey no probs.

Oh and for those who are clueless about betiko's colours the orange are noble gases. And I don't think we should assume noble gases are cleared townies.
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Re: Periodic Table Mafia [12/13] Day 2: Metalloids Suffer

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:08 am

jonty125 wrote:
sempaispellcheck wrote:I know I'm a tad late on this, but I want to formally apologize to jonty for casting undue suspicion on him - I hadn't read the Vacation Thread.

That's all for now.


Hey no probs.

Oh and for those who are clueless about betiko's colours the orange are noble gases. And I don't think we should assume noble gases are cleared townies.


Agreed. That would unbalance the setup if it were true.
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