Should the Totenkopf be banned as a avatar??

[jonesthecurl]

Yarg.

[Funkyterrance]

Just to get the facts straight in my own mind(anyone plz correct any mistakes in my thought process):

1.The image in the avatar is a pin worn by Nazis. It's pretty obvious that its not just a skull and crossbones, it's a very specific skull and crossbones. I've never even seen that image before this subject came up and the image has a very distinctive shape/style that cannot be confused for anything else.

2.Swastikas are not allowed in player avatars because they are deemed offensive/highly distasteful.

3.Freedom of speech is limited on this site. Bigotry is NOT TOLERATED, etc.. Following this trend, all symbols of racism, bigotry, etc., should be disallowed.

Also a quick question: Would it be ok if my avatar were a gay rights symbol with a bar across it like the ghostbusters symbol? Not that I would ever want that for my avatar or would not be offended by someone else having it but I feel like there is a lot of picky-choosy behavior going on here.

[BigBallinStalin]

Okay, let's hypothetically say it was a Nazi symbol (and not just a stupid skull and crossbones) and continue the discussion. The person bringing the C&A report should be banned.

it's not hypothetical, it's a fact. go and look for that image on google. what does it say?

The wolf was a symbol commonly used by the Nazi party. Please remove your avatar. Thanks.

the che is responsible for thousands of death. anyway, here people argue for the sake of arguing. Is that particular wolf the one from the nazi party? so stop being an assclown.

Please remove your avatar. The wolf was a symbol commonly used by the Nazi party, which was the deadliest and most vicious organization responsible of tons of death and deportation to work camps during WW2.

[BigBallinStalin]

"Any avatar which bears a nationalist symbol, e.g. a US flag, should be banned. The US has killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, and it's not being reminded about that."


Betiko would be satisfied if all avatars, which only he disliked, were prohibited. Is that a reasonable system?

[Symmetry]

[ghostly447]

Okay, let's hypothetically say it was a Nazi symbol (and not just a stupid skull and crossbones) and continue the discussion. The person bringing the C&A report should be banned.

it's not hypothetical, it's a fact. go and look for that image on google. what does it say?

The wolf was a symbol commonly used by the Nazi party. Please remove your avatar. Thanks.

the che is responsible for thousands of death. anyway, here people argue for the sake of arguing. Is that particular wolf the one from the nazi party? so stop being an assclown.

Please remove your avatar. The wolf was a symbol commonly used by the Nazi party, which was the deadliest and most vicious organization responsible of tons of death and deportation to work camps during WW2.

If one more person comes and says to please remove betiko's wolf as it is offensive I am going to punch an infant. Find that his specific avatar is the specific one used by Nazi's and I will personally go on an all out compaign to get it removed (but I am pretty sure he would remove it if it was actually offensive). No one seems to get the point that this is the specific pin worn by the SS, and not just a skull and crossbones (or else we wouldnt be giving suggestions on what he could change it to).

[bedub1]

No one seems to get the point that this is the specific pin worn by the SS, and not just a skull and crossbones (or else we wouldnt be giving suggestions on what he could change it to).

Oh I fully understand that. I just don't give a shit. I'm not willing to give up my freedoms to appease people who are unable to contain their emotional reactions to external stimuli.

[Funkyterrance]

No one seems to get the point that this is the specific pin worn by the SS, and not just a skull and crossbones (or else we wouldnt be giving suggestions on what he could change it to).

Oh I fully understand that. I just don't give a shit. I'm not willing to give up my freedoms to appease people who are unable to contain their emotional reactions to external stimuli.

Then why the bigotry rules?

[betiko]

No one seems to get the point that this is the specific pin worn by the SS, and not just a skull and crossbones (or else we wouldnt be giving suggestions on what he could change it to).

Oh I fully understand that. I just don't give a shit. I'm not willing to give up my freedoms to appease people who are unable to contain their emotional reactions to external stimuli.

Then why the bigotry rules?

lol exactly! he is now going to fight for the rights of biggots after defending the ones of neonazis don't worry!
And thanks for your support ghostly, happy to see I'm not the only one to find these guys slightly repetitive and with a certain lack of originality, lol.

[thegreekdog]

No one seems to get the point that this is the specific pin worn by the SS, and not just a skull and crossbones (or else we wouldnt be giving suggestions on what he could change it to).

Oh I fully understand that. I just don't give a shit. I'm not willing to give up my freedoms to appease people who are unable to contain their emotional reactions to external stimuli.

Then why the bigotry rules?

lol exactly! he is now going to fight for the rights of biggots after defending the ones of neonazis don't worry!
And thanks for your support ghostly, happy to see I'm not the only one to find these guys slightly repetitive and with a certain lack of originality, lol.

I believe BBS and Symmetry were doing it purposefully.

Plagarism
Yarg
BBS
Symmetry

That was the order.

[BigBallinStalin]

here ya go, Betiko:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=180084&view=unread#p3933196


Maybe you can deal with that one.


Also, my name should be banned. It has "Stalin" in it. And any pictures of the Good 'Ol days of the CCCP should be banned. [Insert Betiko argument of hurt feelings and negative actions associated with the organization].

[aad0906]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b48_1305790944

[betiko]

you guys can think what you want. swastikas are banned from this site, and there are precedents. If swastkas are banned, I see no reason for accepting other nazi symbols on the site. So is biggotery, and I think that we can all admit that nazis are fine biggots. Deal with it and have a good day!

[Army of GOD]

Deal with it

Unintentional comedy post of the year 2012

[jimboston]

Just to get the facts straight in my own mind(anyone plz correct any mistakes in my thought process):

1.The image in the avatar is a pin worn by Nazis. It's pretty obvious that its not just a skull and crossbones, it's a very specific skull and crossbones. I've never even seen that image before this subject came up and the image has a very distinctive shape/style that cannot be confused for anything else.

2.Swastikas are not allowed in player avatars because they are deemed offensive/highly distasteful.

3.Freedom of speech is limited on this site. Bigotry is NOT TOLERATED, etc.. Following this trend, all symbols of racism, bigotry, etc., should be disallowed.

Also a quick question: Would it be ok if my avatar were a gay rights symbol with a bar across it like the ghostbusters symbol? Not that I would ever want that for my avatar or would not be offended by someone else having it but I feel like there is a lot of picky-choosy behavior going on here.

+1

THAT particular skull and crossbones is identical to the Nazi symbol. The player should not be banned, but he should be forced to change his avatar.

There is no reasonable reason the player can give to keep THAT particular image. There is no reason he couldn't switch to some toher skull & corssbones image that it NOT identical to the Nazi version. Why is he married to THAT particular version???

CC is not a Democracy; nor is it a Republic. It's a business, and by participating in this site you agree to the rules set by the owners. If the user doesn't like the rules... he can leave.

[jimboston]

betiko, I find your avatar offensive. My grandma was killed by a pack of wolves and it's a very traumatic memory so I'm going to force you to change it.

AOG, please remove your avatar.

The Denver Broncos suck and I find them offensive.

Also Broncos (i.e. horses) are a nonindigenous species, and their introduction to the "new world" cause a lot of ecological harm. Therefore I find anything containing the name horse, bronco, mare, etc. to be offensive.

[jimboston]

here's my advice: suck it the f*ck up or just keep it to yourself.

If everyone complained if they were offended, life would suck. I have family members that were killed by drunk drivers. You know what I do when people make jokes about driving drunk? I suck it the f*ck up. I know it's easier for me to bite my tongue than expect the world to change itself because I'm being upset.

So seriously, just suck it up.

Drunk driving is bad, and I feel for the loss of your family/friends.

Drunk Driving (does not equal) The Holocaust

[jimboston]

It's annoying how anything Nazi related is automatically offensive while you can post whatever you want in favor of Stalin, the USSR, Truman, etc. and none of that matters.

I can understand the comparison of Stalin and the USSR to Hilter and Russia.

Please elaborate on the Truman analogy.

[bedub1]

CC is not a Democracy; nor is it a Republic. It's a business, and by participating in this site you agree to the rules set by the owners. If the user doesn't like the rules... he can leave.

Correct. And the moderators have correctly, (IMO) stated that this avatar is fine. If betiko doesn't like it, as you said, he can leave. Or just ignore it.

[DoomYoshi]

bedub, please remove your rank. I hate how you have more points than me and find it offensive.

[jimboston]

CC is not a Democracy; nor is it a Republic. It's a business, and by participating in this site you agree to the rules set by the owners. If the user doesn't like the rules... he can leave.

Correct. And the moderators have correctly, (IMO) stated that this avatar is fine. If betiko doesn't like it, as you said, he can leave. Or just ignore it.

Obviously I disagree with the moderators decision.

So now I have to suck it up or leave... in this case I will suck it up.

If my immediate family were holocaust victims I might go another way.

I also think, that if I were the "offending" person, I would have no problem changing my avatar.

[bedub1]

bedub, please remove your rank. I hate how you have more points than me and find it offensive.

I'm really sorry about that DoomYoshi. Fortunately I'm not on the Scoreboard so you shouldn't have to worry about me lowering your placement. If you want we can play 1000 doodle games and see if you can seize my crown.

[Funkyterrance]

CC is not a Democracy; nor is it a Republic. It's a business, and by participating in this site you agree to the rules set by the owners. If the user doesn't like the rules... he can leave.

Correct. And the moderators have correctly, (IMO) stated that this avatar is fine. If betiko doesn't like it, as you said, he can leave. Or just ignore it.

It's not like it's going to have any real effect since you only put it up to spite. The only thing you've accomplished is having a vague and meaningless looking avatar, congrats.

[persianempire]

Betiko, i hope your happy now you son of a bitch?
have you nothing better to do than go around this site and ruin peoples reputations? where on my page does it say im a nazi sympathizer , or any of the things you have called me? not only this youve got other people bashing throwing ridiculous accusations like they know me and this is any of their fucking business. ive not posted anything until now because it seems anything i say can and will be used against me. if i say something im lying , if i deny im lying if i answer your fucking question im lying. are all europeans such a bunch of whiners like you ? answer me something and answer it truthfully you asshole.. if i was to start an organization of peace and love and all good stuff but our logo was a swastika WILL YOU JOIN MY CAUSE? thanks for the pictures of the weak ass skulls you posted and dont fucking tell me what to use on my avatar again. all who are on the right of free speech thanks for the support , exceptional points made and i agree . the funniest thing of this all is that Betiko really thinks im a 74+ SS officer who fled to Canada. Army of God said it well , suck it the f*ck up but i suppose this site caters to babys, letting them all have their bottles as soon as they start crying , am i under arrest ? seems as though what little right s i have havebeen taken. you cant use that , use this one that ive chosen for you ...... thanks Joseph Stalin (Betiko)

[bedub1]

CC is not a Democracy; nor is it a Republic. It's a business, and by participating in this site you agree to the rules set by the owners. If the user doesn't like the rules... he can leave.

Correct. And the moderators have correctly, (IMO) stated that this avatar is fine. If betiko doesn't like it, as you said, he can leave. Or just ignore it.

It's not like it's going to have any real effect since you only put it up to spite. The only thing you've accomplished is having a vague and meaningless looking avatar, congrats.

Me? My avatar isn't vague and meaningless. I got the picture from the Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika. It's a Buddhist symbol, translated to mean "being with higher self". I was born and raised Roman Catholic, but pulled back as I saw how absurd the entire religion/establishment is. For the longest time I've been agnostic/atheist. Lately I've been learning about Buddhism, and felt that it was time to adopt a symbol to show my new-found exploration into alternative ideologies. Plus it was time for the smiley face to go.