Should the Totenkopf be banned as a avatar??

[Guderian09]

Its a Shame to even read about this issue..

Banning is a form of censorship and I can only conclude this reflects the modern tendency to paranoia...

Ridiculous and Biggott

PS: How about the Che Guevara head, should we discuss the matter on the same basis..???

[betiko]

CC is not a Democracy; nor is it a Republic. It's a business, and by participating in this site you agree to the rules set by the owners. If the user doesn't like the rules... he can leave.

Correct. And the moderators have correctly, (IMO) stated that this avatar is fine. If betiko doesn't like it, as you said, he can leave. Or just ignore it.

It's not like it's going to have any real effect since you only put it up to spite. The only thing you've accomplished is having a vague and meaningless looking avatar, congrats.

Me? My avatar isn't vague and meaningless. I got the picture from the Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika. It's a Buddhist symbol, translated to mean "being with higher self". I was born and raised Roman Catholic, but pulled back as I saw how absurd the entire religion/establishment is. For the longest time I've been agnostic/atheist. Lately I've been learning about Buddhism, and felt that it was time to adopt a symbol to show my new-found exploration into alternative ideologies. Plus it was time for the smiley face to go.

lol I feel sorry for you not having the balls of putting a nazi symbol as arianempire does (arians in the real concept come from persia not nordics).... at least he has the balls to express his opinions. he's a nazi wannabee, but at least a real one. you're just using a sanskrit symbol that is all but agressive. This is not a buddhist symbol it's a sanskrit symbol used also in the jain and hindou religions. it's anything but offensive as it represents positive forces of the universe.

Heil persian empire!
haven't read the thread yet, but i'm happy for you to see that white power prevails and that it's now morally fine to worship the SS. I would like to see your nazi object collection, I bet it's impressive! beautiful nazi flags as curtains, hanging weapons on the walls, badges, a little "mein kampf" under the your pillow and a few images of gased jews! haha, that was some funny shit! you had so much fun visiting concentration camps with daddy when you were a kid and seeing how these jews were beaten up. Too bad uncle adolf got beatten and you had to move to canada like all SS did!
Have fun with the rest of your life, because aged 74 there is not much left to it! you'd better teach those good old nazi values before you're gone, but you know, since now it's become politically correct and all, I see a great future in this!

i see you know a little bit about arian history and all that , but that was some funny stuff i actually laughed a little bit when you said pics of jews and nazi flags mein kampf and all that haha no this is not american history x ok stop watching so many movies lmao . i saw a bad ass skull sifting through some pics and i thought thats a good avatar , noone complained i thought i was good , 3 years later .... hey douche bag i dont like your avatar take it off , or ill go to the mods f u . but its all gravy , next avi will be some finely made israeli weapons , thems some good killing machines right there

i see you finally got the point. If you have nothing to do with this ideology and given that it's arguably the most disturbing an deadly the mankind has ever witnessed, if you really didn't know what that pin was about 3 years ago and now you do, I couldn't understand why you would desperately want to stick to it. Anyway, hats off for doing it yourself.

[betiko]

Its a Shame to even read about this issue..

Banning is a form of censorship and I can only conclude this reflects the modern tendency to paranoia...

Ridiculous and Biggott

PS: How about the Che Guevara head, should we discuss the matter on the same basis..???

hey, just post a nude from michelangello or any renaissance artist you want on CC forums and tell me what happens. There has always been censorship o this site, and i see no reason to let people have insignas of mass murderers who are responsible of familly deaths and tortures to a relatively high percentage of CC users while a simple painted nipple would be censored.
And no, you don't live in a world where everything is permitted, it has never been this way and it will never be.

[thegreekdog]

Its a Shame to even read about this issue..

Banning is a form of censorship and I can only conclude this reflects the modern tendency to paranoia...

Ridiculous and Biggott

PS: How about the Che Guevara head, should we discuss the matter on the same basis..???

Yeah let's do that. But before you do that, read the caption underneath the picture.

[betiko]

Its a Shame to even read about this issue..

Banning is a form of censorship and I can only conclude this reflects the modern tendency to paranoia...

Ridiculous and Biggott

PS: How about the Che Guevara head, should we discuss the matter on the same basis..???

Yeah let's do that. But before you do that, read the caption underneath the picture.

as much as i'd like to, i personally can't it's way too small and I don't think I'm the only one. what does it say? I think that probably only the persons you've told it to here know you're actually promotting something against the che and not in his favour.

[BigBallinStalin]

Its a Shame to even read about this issue..

Banning is a form of censorship and I can only conclude this reflects the modern tendency to paranoia...

Ridiculous and Biggott

PS: How about the Che Guevara head, should we discuss the matter on the same basis..???

Yeah let's do that. But before you do that, read the caption underneath the picture.

as much as i'd like to, i personally can't it's way too small and I don't think I'm the only one. what does it say? I think that probably only the persons you've told it to here know you're actually promotting something against the che and not in his favour.

You should have it banned just in case anyone finds it offensive.

Also, my avatar represents a man who killed a guy and tried to kill his wife and son. I guess he's not as bad as a SS guy, but then there's that whole Stalin thing we'll just ignore.

Why do you turn the blind eye on Stalin? Perhaps you view him as a great guy.

[thegreekdog]

Its a Shame to even read about this issue..

Banning is a form of censorship and I can only conclude this reflects the modern tendency to paranoia...

Ridiculous and Biggott

PS: How about the Che Guevara head, should we discuss the matter on the same basis..???

Yeah let's do that. But before you do that, read the caption underneath the picture.

as much as i'd like to, i personally can't it's way too small and I don't think I'm the only one. what does it say? I think that probably only the persons you've told it to here know you're actually promotting something against the che and not in his favour.

"This t-shirt brought to you by capitalism."

Which is a critique of the people who wear the original Che shirt in the first place.

Which is still probably offensive to those who are Che-supporters. I should probably remove my avatar.

[Neoteny]

I am offended by both the original Cheface and any criticisms of the Cheface, as well as any references, image, written, or otherwise, either in favor of, or opposed to, the Cheface.

I am also offended by the number and usage of commas in my previous statement.

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[BigBallinStalin]

I am offended by both the original Cheface and any criticisms of the Cheface, as well as any references, image, written, or otherwise, either in favor of, or opposed to, the Cheface.

I am also offended by the number and usage of commas in my previous statement.

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How dare your Uncle Sam avatar try to silence me?!

YES! I am offended! Remove it at once or be subjected to strings of commas:


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You are no match for the strings of commas.

[Army of GOD]

I am offended by both the original Cheface and any criticisms of the Cheface, as well as any references, image, written, or otherwise, either in favor of, or opposed to, the Cheface.

I am also offended by the number and usage of commas in my previous statement.

,,,

How dare your Uncle Sam avatar try to silence me?!

YES! I am offended! Remove it at once or be subjected to strings of commas:


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You are no match for the strings of commas.

I am offended by your use of the Jack Nicholson-wearing-a-dinosaur-outfit avatar.

Please remove it before I report you to the authorities.

[betiko]

Its a Shame to even read about this issue..

Banning is a form of censorship and I can only conclude this reflects the modern tendency to paranoia...

Ridiculous and Biggott

PS: How about the Che Guevara head, should we discuss the matter on the same basis..???

Yeah let's do that. But before you do that, read the caption underneath the picture.

as much as i'd like to, i personally can't it's way too small and I don't think I'm the only one. what does it say? I think that probably only the persons you've told it to here know you're actually promotting something against the che and not in his favour.

You should have it banned just in case anyone finds it offensive.

Also, my avatar represents a man who killed a guy and tried to kill his wife and son. I guess he's not as bad as a SS guy, but then there's that whole Stalin thing we'll just ignore.

Why do you turn the blind eye on Stalin? Perhaps you view him as a great guy.

You seem offended that i m not offended and i don t even care.. Well remove it if you want if your own e-identity bothers you, i m not here to be your shrink.

Greekdog, i guess that communists can manufacture and distribute tshirts if they can go to space.

[Army of GOD]

ITT: betiko admits he's a troll

[BigBallinStalin]

Its a Shame to even read about this issue..

Banning is a form of censorship and I can only conclude this reflects the modern tendency to paranoia...

Ridiculous and Biggott

PS: How about the Che Guevara head, should we discuss the matter on the same basis..???

Yeah let's do that. But before you do that, read the caption underneath the picture.

as much as i'd like to, i personally can't it's way too small and I don't think I'm the only one. what does it say? I think that probably only the persons you've told it to here know you're actually promotting something against the che and not in his favour.

You should have it banned just in case anyone finds it offensive.

Also, my avatar represents a man who killed a guy and tried to kill his wife and son. I guess he's not as bad as a SS guy, but then there's that whole Stalin thing we'll just ignore.

Why do you turn the blind eye on Stalin? Perhaps you view him as a great guy.

You seem offended that i m not offended and i don t even care.. Well remove it if you want if your own e-identity bothers you, i m not here to be your shrink.

Greekdog, i guess that communists can manufacture and distribute tshirts if they can go to space.

I'm offended by your trolling or your lack of consistency.

Go on about the glories of the Gulag please.

[betiko]

do you really need an explanation? your name "bigballstalin" and the fact that you have his face put on a kermitt the frog costume doesn't look like anything else than a joke, therefore i don't see how it could be offensive.

other than this, stalin was a douche, like most USSR leaders but i'd give him the 1st prize. I don't see how your username avatar could possibly glorify stalin. please change your avatar in order to glorify stalin and i will see if you make me change my mind.

[Army of GOD]

HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES STALIN

[BigBallinStalin]

do you really need an explanation? your name "bigballstalin" and the fact that you have his face put on a kermitt the frog costume doesn't look like anything else than a joke, therefore i don't see how it could be offensive.

other than this, stalin was a douche, like most USSR leaders but i'd give him the 1st prize. I don't see how your username avatar could possibly glorify stalin. please change your avatar in order to glorify stalin and i will see if you make me change my mind.

Thanks for admitting that you're clearly being arbitrary here. Stalin is a joke who deserves a 1st prize according to you, but the Totenkopf? oh no no, that's not right cuz you said so.

I'd appreciate it if you stopped glorifying wolves. For millennia, they've hunted down our ancestors and killed countless women and children. Have you no shame?

At this point, you're simply expressing some emotional diatribe, or you're just trolling. Which is it, betiko?

[BigBallinStalin]

HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES STALIN

[2dimes]

do you really need an explanation? your name "bigballstalin" and the fact that you have his face put on a kermitt the frog costume...

It's strange that someone with such an eye for the tatertotenpufft thingy is so far off here.

[betiko]

do you really need an explanation? your name "bigballstalin" and the fact that you have his face put on a kermitt the frog costume doesn't look like anything else than a joke, therefore i don't see how it could be offensive.

other than this, stalin was a douche, like most USSR leaders but i'd give him the 1st prize. I don't see how your username avatar could possibly glorify stalin. please change your avatar in order to glorify stalin and i will see if you make me change my mind.

Thanks for admitting that you're clearly being arbitrary here. Stalin is a joke who deserves a 1st prize according to you, but the Totenkopf? oh no no, that's not right cuz you said so.

I'd appreciate it if you stopped glorifying wolves. For millennia, they've hunted down our ancestors and killed countless women and children. Have you no shame?

At this point, you're simply expressing some emotional diatribe, or you're just trolling. Which is it, betiko?

what do you not understand in my post? you are not glorifying stalin as far as i know, you're making fun of him. He was so mean that I even recognize him with jack nicholson's face in shinning and kermitt's body.
Wolves are animals and can't be held responsble for their actions; in fact they are protected in order to not see them disappear, such as elephants, hippos, lions, polar bears, sharks and any other animal that could kill a human in seconds.
Now if I need to go deeper in my explanations regarding the difference with SS militias, I think I would need to o too much into details because obviously some obvious conections are a bit rusty in your brain.

[Funkyterrance]

do you really need an explanation? your name "bigballstalin" and the fact that you have his face put on a kermitt the frog costume...

It's strange that someone with such an eye for the tatertotenpufft thingy is so far off here.

Ok, Oscar, not everyone on here is a muppet expert.


Persianempire changed his avatar and I, for one, think that was pretty big of him. The gesture of goodwill to the community is much appreciated.

[DoomYoshi]

Betiko, are you afraid to admit that the SS were a far more elite group than anything the Free French could field during WW2? Here at conquer club, we have respect for military might. While the end years of the war saw mostly untrained children fighting in SS uniforms, during the early years I would pick the WaffenSS for many different operations over any French units.

What I am trying to say is that the SS should be glorified, but only for their contribution to military history. Let us not forget it was the Waffen who kicked the British out of France for you.

EDIT: Let me rephrase this. In addition to war crimes, the SS also did WAR. So why not celebrate their achievements in War? Is Sir Liddell Hart a terrible strategist because his strategies allowed the Germans to occupy most of Europe rather quickly?

[2dimes]

do you really need an explanation? your name "bigballstalin" and the fact that you have his face put on a kermitt the frog costume...

It's strange that someone with such an eye for the tatertotenpufft thingy is so far off here.

Ok, Oscar, not everyone on here is a muppet expert.


Persianempire changed his avatar and I, for one, think that was pretty big of him. The gesture of goodwill to the community is much appreciated.

I'm offended that you would place a well thought out post in this thread. Can we get some mod edits in here?

[thegreekdog]

I am offended by both the original Cheface and any criticisms of the Cheface, as well as any references, image, written, or otherwise, either in favor of, or opposed to, the Cheface.

I am also offended by the number and usage of commas in my previous statement.

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I'm offended by your offense to using commas, which offends me as an attorney who uses copious amounts of commas.

[thegreekdog]

Greekdog, i guess that communists can manufacture and distribute tshirts if they can go to space.

Not in the US brother!

[betiko]

Betiko, are you afraid to admit that the SS were a far more elite group than anything the Free French could field during WW2? Here at conquer club, we have respect for military might. While the end years of the war saw mostly untrained children fighting in SS uniforms, during the early years I would pick the WaffenSS for many different operations over any French units.

What I am trying to say is that the SS should be glorified, but only for their contribution to military history. Let us not forget it was the Waffen who kicked the British out of France for you.

EDIT: Let me rephrase this. In addition to war crimes, the SS also did WAR. So why not celebrate their achievements in War? Is Sir Liddell Hart a terrible strategist because his strategies allowed the Germans to occupy most of Europe rather quickly?

you are comparing underground activists with barely no weapons and under an ocupation regime with an army of militia... Do you think i give a f*ck of who's the strongest, the rhino or the hippo and those type of questions? we're talking about people mass murdering civilians in my country and many other european ones. The waffen SS was a political army with a very disturbing ideology. I can't possiblydissociate one from another. Just go to germany and see how people feel about this. the baby boomers lived in guilt and trauma of what the previous generation did and until the mid 90s everybody hated germans across europe, now we're over this and I pretty much like germans now.

If someone has an avatar of the admiral nelson, or the general wellington I wouldn't care.

Some of you might have their grandpa or other members of your familly that made the D-day in Normandy, not sure it's the most respectfull thing that 60 years later people would wear insignas of those who terrorized europe in the deadliest conflict ever.

the other day i saw a french documentary which was about guns in the US at some point they go to a gun convention with hillbillies, and many of them were selling nazi flags on their stand, the presenter really had problems understanding how these type of things could be sold so freely.
These are just called cultural differences.