What is the Democrat Party?

[Nobunaga]

... And yet another...

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... What won't the Dems do to win? Law is obviously meaningless to these people.

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[Woodruff]

... Woodruff gives me 7. I could give him a few hundred. And Greek makes the point - Infowars is the only place reporting this. Obama got the major news agencies and networks...

... I wonder why that is? ...

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Perhaps because he's the God damn President, you fucking idiot. Perhaps because at least one with actual, serious plans involved, to be carried out by military personnel. Perhaps because it wasn't solely a bunch of internet loudmouths. Seriously, man. You're just making yourself look stupid here.

My, my. Read again please:

... Show me tweets, show me message board postings, show me interviews, whatever, where masses declare the need to assassinate Obama and to riot if he wins... and I will agree with you.

... Were your links post election? Your linked stories then are not comparable. So please, Woody, show me folks tweeting, message posting, etc.. en mass about killing then Senator Obama during the 2008 election. You won't find it, because though there may be a few nut jobs who would have said such a thing, the Dems hold a very strong majority when it comes to racism and hatred in this country... as evidenced by my earlier posts in this thread.

... Thank you.

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Your desperation is becoming embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for you.

[thegreekdog]

... Woodruff gives me 7. I could give him a few hundred. And Greek makes the point - Infowars is the only place reporting this. Obama got the major news agencies and networks...

... I wonder why that is? ...

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Perhaps because he's the God damn President, you fucking idiot. Perhaps because at least one with actual, serious plans involved, to be carried out by military personnel. Perhaps because it wasn't solely a bunch of internet loudmouths. Seriously, man. You're just making yourself look stupid here.

My, my. Read again please:

... Show me tweets, show me message board postings, show me interviews, whatever, where masses declare the need to assassinate Obama and to riot if he wins... and I will agree with you.

... Were your links post election? Your linked stories then are not comparable. So please, Woody, show me folks tweeting, message posting, etc.. en mass about killing then Senator Obama during the 2008 election. You won't find it, because though there may be a few nut jobs who would have said such a thing, the Dems hold a very strong majority when it comes to racism and hatred in this country... as evidenced by my earlier posts in this thread.

... Thank you.

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Your desperation is becoming embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for you.

You honestly believe that the media is treating the threats against Romney as seriously as they treated the threats against Obama, with all the conviction... all the "Tea Party is racist" rhetoric... all the conservatives don't want a black president crap? I've seen this crap happen to Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and Obama and the only time I've ever seen any sort of outcry by major media outlets is with Obama.

Honestly Woodruff, you have no leg to stand on here. Once the media treated Obama death threats the way it did, it opened itself up to criticism for not treating every presidential candidate's death threats with the same fervor. And you know I'm not talking ot of desperation (which seems to be your new thing) because I won't be voting for Obama or Romney.

[Woodruff]

... Woodruff gives me 7. I could give him a few hundred. And Greek makes the point - Infowars is the only place reporting this. Obama got the major news agencies and networks...

... I wonder why that is? ...

...

Perhaps because he's the God damn President, you fucking idiot. Perhaps because at least one with actual, serious plans involved, to be carried out by military personnel. Perhaps because it wasn't solely a bunch of internet loudmouths. Seriously, man. You're just making yourself look stupid here.

My, my. Read again please:

... Show me tweets, show me message board postings, show me interviews, whatever, where masses declare the need to assassinate Obama and to riot if he wins... and I will agree with you.

... Were your links post election? Your linked stories then are not comparable. So please, Woody, show me folks tweeting, message posting, etc.. en mass about killing then Senator Obama during the 2008 election. You won't find it, because though there may be a few nut jobs who would have said such a thing, the Dems hold a very strong majority when it comes to racism and hatred in this country... as evidenced by my earlier posts in this thread.

... Thank you.

...

Your desperation is becoming embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for you.

You honestly believe that the media is treating the threats against Romney as seriously as they treated the threats against Obama, with all the conviction.

No, I don't. At all, in fact. I also don't honestly believe that the threats ARE as serious NOR SHOULD BE TREATED as seriously as the ones against Obama. Frankly, it doesn't make sense to treat them in the same way, simply looking at the nature of those threats.

[thegreekdog]

The substantive portion of the threats against Obama and Romney are very similar - words (typed or written) calling for assassination. Why are you taking the threats against Romney less seriously?

[Woodruff]

The substantive portion of the threats against Obama and Romney are very similar - words (typed or written) calling for assassination. Why are you taking the threats against Romney less seriously?

Perhaps because at least a portion of them were demonstrably real, actualy, verified threats. I don't honestly recall that much of an outcry about the threats against Obama that weren't verified threats. Perhaps I wasn't that politically interested then (I find that unlikely)? Perhaps my blinders won't allow me to remember that (I find that even more unlikely)?

Which threats against Romney have been verified in such a manner, warranting an outcry?

If you're trying to prove that various media outlets are biased, you're wasting your time...I already know that very well.

[thegreekdog]

The substantive portion of the threats against Obama and Romney are very similar - words (typed or written) calling for assassination. Why are you taking the threats against Romney less seriously?

Perhaps because at least a portion of them were demonstrably real, actualy, verified threats. I don't honestly recall that much of an outcry about the threats against Obama that weren't verified threats. Perhaps I wasn't that politically interested then (I find that unlikely)? Perhaps my blinders won't allow me to remember that (I find that even more unlikely)?

Which threats against Romney have been verified in such a manner, warranting an outcry?

If you're trying to prove that various media outlets are biased, you're wasting your time...I already know that very well.

I'm not talking aobut real, actual, verified threats. I'm talking about dumbasses with signs and dumbasses on the internet. I don't know why you don't recall these since there was a pretty well-known post made by your favorite person in the whole world showing a guy with a sign that had the "n" word on it. Anyway, there was a lot of uproar regarding these signs, the racist Tea Party, etc. and little to no uproar regarding the idiots putting a Hitler moustache on Bush (for example). I'm not suggesting there should be an uproar. Frankly, I think it just obscures the real issues. The point is if a media outfit is going to put that much time and effort in reporting on racism in the Tea Party's "threats" against the president, it is highly hypocritical for those same media outfits to ignore similar issues now because they are against Romney. For me, it proves that the Tea Party = racism crap was actually partisan crap.

As to your last sentence, yes, that's precisely my point. It might not be Nobunaga's point, but I think it is. So the whole "desparation" word you keep using is not appropriate, in my opinion. He's doing the same thing that MSNBC, CNN, etc. were doing four years ago during the Tea Party stuff.

[Woodruff]

The substantive portion of the threats against Obama and Romney are very similar - words (typed or written) calling for assassination. Why are you taking the threats against Romney less seriously?

Perhaps because at least a portion of them were demonstrably real, actualy, verified threats. I don't honestly recall that much of an outcry about the threats against Obama that weren't verified threats. Perhaps I wasn't that politically interested then (I find that unlikely)? Perhaps my blinders won't allow me to remember that (I find that even more unlikely)?

Which threats against Romney have been verified in such a manner, warranting an outcry?

If you're trying to prove that various media outlets are biased, you're wasting your time...I already know that very well.

I'm not talking about real, actual, verified threats. I'm talking about dumbasses with signs and dumbasses on the internet. I don't know why you don't recall these since there was a pretty well-known post made by your favorite person in the whole world showing a guy with a sign that had the "n" word on it.

Honestly, I always assumed that was just some dumbass photoshop thing he did for his Tea Party rants.

Anyway, there was a lot of uproar regarding these signs, the racist Tea Party, etc. and little to no uproar regarding the idiots putting a Hitler moustache on Bush (for example).

I remember social media being in an uproar (somewhat) over the Tea Party racist stuff, and a few people here on CC...I don't honestly remember the actual media getting into it that much.

For me, it proves that the Tea Party = racism crap was actually partisan crap.

Well of course it was. I don't remember NOT thinking that. Hell, it was my primary issue with pimpdave. Every group has dipshits in it. They just focused on the racist dipshits.

As to your last sentence, yes, that's precisely my point. It might not be Nobunaga's point, but I think it is. So the whole "desparation" word you keep using is not appropriate, in my opinion. He's doing the same thing that MSNBC, CNN, etc. were doing four years ago during the Tea Party stuff.

I definitely think the "desperation" label is appropriately used against him, based on his posts in the last couple of weeks. It's like he's finally realized (considerably belatedly, in my opinion), that Obama is almost certainly going to win, so he's throwing all of his cards, even the jokers, out on the table in a desperate effort to somehow construct a royal flush.

[thegreekdog]

I definitely think the "desperation" label is appropriately used against him, based on his posts in the last couple of weeks. It's like he's finally realized (considerably belatedly, in my opinion), that Obama is almost certainly going to win, so he's throwing all of his cards, even the jokers, out on the table in a desperate effort to somehow construct a royal flush.

Good analogy, but I don't agree. These particular posts in this thread are apt ("what's the Democrat[ic] Party?") in showing what the Democratic Party is, especially in light of Juan Bottom's similar thread on the Republican Party (where you've posted a lot more positive stuff and nothing about showing desperation). Even disregarding all that (which I think is important), Nobunaga is too smart to use these things as his desperation act.

[Woodruff]

I definitely think the "desperation" label is appropriately used against him, based on his posts in the last couple of weeks. It's like he's finally realized (considerably belatedly, in my opinion), that Obama is almost certainly going to win, so he's throwing all of his cards, even the jokers, out on the table in a desperate effort to somehow construct a royal flush.

Good analogy, but I don't agree. These particular posts in this thread are apt ("what's the Democrat[ic] Party?") in showing what the Democratic Party is, especially in light of Juan Bottom's similar thread on the Republican Party (where you've posted a lot more positive stuff and nothing about showing desperation). Even disregarding all that (which I think is important), Nobunaga is too smart to use these things as his desperation act.

I may not have suggested anything about desperation in that other thread, it's true. I have, however, countered Juan's claims several times in that thread. I would suggest that's just as..."damaging?, is that the right word?" to his cause.

[Juan_Bottom]

I didn't start any Republican thread. I'm just labeled that way.

[Woodruff]

I didn't start any Republican thread. I'm just labeled that way.

You didn't start the thread, but I think you and I are the ones posting new information to it the most often (I say that without going to actually look).

[Nobunaga]

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I definitely think the "desperation" label is appropriately used against him, based on his posts in the last couple of weeks. It's like he's finally realized (considerably belatedly, in my opinion), that Obama is almost certainly going to win, so he's throwing all of his cards, even the jokers, out on the table in a desperate effort to somehow construct a royal flush.

... You're half right. I am desperate, and throwing anything I can find up against the fridge, hoping some of it sticks.

... But I'm not thinking Obama's certainly going to win. I give him a slight edge on the probability scale, "almost certainly going to win" is an overstatement.

... But really, it's mostly just ranting that I do - shouting into the wind. Makes me feel better, though I have no idea why. I have never seen anybody influenced by opinions posted here, why would I expect that to change now? Perhaps I like to hear myself yell?... (probably the most likely proposal). I enjoy it. That's pretty normal, I think (I hope).

... Influencing people face to face is much easier. I've converted two people thus far to pass on Obama and vote for Romney - a terribly ignorant woman I work with, and a naturalized citizen friend of a friend. That's pretty awesome to me.

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[PLAYER57832]

The substantive portion of the threats against Obama and Romney are very similar - words (typed or written) calling for assassination. Why are you taking the threats against Romney less seriously?

Obama is a sitting president of the United States. Romney is a contender. That is reason enough.

[Symmetry]

The substantive portion of the threats against Obama and Romney are very similar - words (typed or written) calling for assassination. Why are you taking the threats against Romney less seriously?

Obama is a sitting president of the United States. Romney is a contender. That is reason enough.

Yeah- while I accept your general point that threats against Romney should be taken seriously, TGD, you're really going out on a limb by saying he should be treated the same as the Commander in Chief. I'm with Player on this.

[thegreekdog]

The substantive portion of the threats against Obama and Romney are very similar - words (typed or written) calling for assassination. Why are you taking the threats against Romney less seriously?

Obama is a sitting president of the United States. Romney is a contender. That is reason enough.

Yeah- while I accept your general point that threats against Romney should be taken seriously, TGD, you're really going out on a limb by saying he should be treated the same as the Commander in Chief. I'm with Player on this.

Okay, well first I'm comparing "Tea Party = racist" for signs, comments, and whatnot to "Kill Mitt Romney" comments. I'm not comparing actual threats against the president with "Kill Mitt Romney" comments. I agree with Player too so I would never make the latter comparison. I suspect there was more outcry by the media over the "Tea Party = racist" stuff and applying that characterization to a large group of people than there was over actual, verifiable death threats against President Obama.

So, while I will disregard stupid shit like racist signs and tweets about killing Romney as stupid shit, the media did not disregard the former and should therefore not disregard the latter. Otherwise, I claim hypocrits.

[Symmetry]

The substantive portion of the threats against Obama and Romney are very similar - words (typed or written) calling for assassination. Why are you taking the threats against Romney less seriously?

Obama is a sitting president of the United States. Romney is a contender. That is reason enough.

Yeah- while I accept your general point that threats against Romney should be taken seriously, TGD, you're really going out on a limb by saying he should be treated the same as the Commander in Chief. I'm with Player on this.

Okay, well first I'm comparing "Tea Party = racist" for signs, comments, and whatnot to "Kill Mitt Romney" comments. I'm not comparing actual threats against the president with "Kill Mitt Romney" comments. I agree with Player too so I would never make the latter comparison. I suspect there was more outcry by the media over the "Tea Party = racist" stuff and applying that characterization to a large group of people than there was over actual, verifiable death threats against President Obama.

So, while I will disregard stupid shit like racist signs and tweets about killing Romney as stupid shit, the media did not disregard the former and should therefore not disregard the latter. Otherwise, I claim hypocrits.

So, in essence, you were bullshitting?

[BigBallinStalin]

The substantive portion of the threats against Obama and Romney are very similar - words (typed or written) calling for assassination. Why are you taking the threats against Romney less seriously?

Obama is a sitting president of the United States. Romney is a contender. That is reason enough.

Yeah- while I accept your general point that threats against Romney should be taken seriously, TGD, you're really going out on a limb by saying he should be treated the same as the Commander in Chief. I'm with Player on this.

Okay, well first I'm comparing "Tea Party = racist" for signs, comments, and whatnot to "Kill Mitt Romney" comments. I'm not comparing actual threats against the president with "Kill Mitt Romney" comments. I agree with Player too so I would never make the latter comparison. I suspect there was more outcry by the media over the "Tea Party = racist" stuff and applying that characterization to a large group of people than there was over actual, verifiable death threats against President Obama.

So, while I will disregard stupid shit like racist signs and tweets about killing Romney as stupid shit, the media did not disregard the former and should therefore not disregard the latter. Otherwise, I claim hypocrits.

So, in essence, you were bullshitting?

Why do you do this?

TGD's point is pretty obvious, but somehow you (un)intentionally misconstrue it.

Don't know if trolling or just...

[thegreekdog]

The substantive portion of the threats against Obama and Romney are very similar - words (typed or written) calling for assassination. Why are you taking the threats against Romney less seriously?

Obama is a sitting president of the United States. Romney is a contender. That is reason enough.

Yeah- while I accept your general point that threats against Romney should be taken seriously, TGD, you're really going out on a limb by saying he should be treated the same as the Commander in Chief. I'm with Player on this.

Okay, well first I'm comparing "Tea Party = racist" for signs, comments, and whatnot to "Kill Mitt Romney" comments. I'm not comparing actual threats against the president with "Kill Mitt Romney" comments. I agree with Player too so I would never make the latter comparison. I suspect there was more outcry by the media over the "Tea Party = racist" stuff and applying that characterization to a large group of people than there was over actual, verifiable death threats against President Obama.

So, while I will disregard stupid shit like racist signs and tweets about killing Romney as stupid shit, the media did not disregard the former and should therefore not disregard the latter. Otherwise, I claim hypocrits.

So, in essence, you were bullshitting?

And... we're done (again). I'm wondering if this will be the final result in every thread where we engage in "discussion."

Why do you do this?

TGD's point is pretty obvious, but somehow you (un)intentionally misconstrue it.

Don't know if trolling or just...

I don't know why. Perhaps he's just trolling or he's really that stupid. I mean, he did try to troll Nobunaga with the ellipses...

[Symmetry]

Oh please, like TGS wasn't trolling. "hypocrits"?

Try to keep up BBS.

[BigBallinStalin]

Oh please, like TGS wasn't trolling. "hypocrits"?

Try to keep up BBS.

Ohhh, so perhaps Symmetry really doesn't understand TGD's stance.

(or Sym is trolling).


It's difficult to tell with this one, but I'd wager that Sym is trolling, since TGD's point was made twice and is pretty clear.

[Symmetry]

Oh please, like TGS wasn't trolling. "hypocrits"?

Try to keep up BBS.

Ohhh, so perhaps Symmetry really doesn't understand TGD's stance.

(or Sym is trolling).


It's difficult to tell with this one, but I'd wager that Sym is trolling, since TGD's point was made twice and is pretty clear.

Don't you have teenage girls to stalk BBS? For the benefit of the economy?

[BigBallinStalin]

Oh please, like TGS wasn't trolling. "hypocrits"?

Try to keep up BBS.

Ohhh, so perhaps Symmetry really doesn't understand TGD's stance.

(or Sym is trolling).


It's difficult to tell with this one, but I'd wager that Sym is trolling, since TGD's point was made twice and is pretty clear.

Don't you have teenage girls to stalk BBS? For the benefit of the economy?

Why are you baiting me, Symmetry?

It's okay to be honest with us by either admitting that you don't understand TGD's position or that you're trolling--if it makes you feel better, you could say that you were 'doin it for the lulz'.

[Symmetry]

Oh please, like TGS wasn't trolling. "hypocrits"?

Try to keep up BBS.

Ohhh, so perhaps Symmetry really doesn't understand TGD's stance.

(or Sym is trolling).


It's difficult to tell with this one, but I'd wager that Sym is trolling, since TGD's point was made twice and is pretty clear.

Don't you have teenage girls to stalk BBS? For the benefit of the economy?

Why are you baiting me, Symmetry?

It's okay to be honest with us by either admitting that you don't understand TGD's position or that you're trolling--if it makes you feel better, you could say that you were 'doin it for the lulz'.

Don't be silly BBS, you've considered virtually anything I post to be BBS bait for a while now. It culminated in your Symmetry death thread. I think you need to get a few things off your chest, and hopefully the mods indicated that calling for my death wasn't the best solution.

So what's up?

[BigBallinStalin]

Sym, there's no need to pollute the thread here with issues that you still have some emotional association with. Feel free to PM me or use the wall.