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Postby Guilty_Biscuit on Thu May 03, 2007 3:14 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:And since Spin fucked that up, I will say, I'm not protown... But I'm not mafia.


vote:Anarkistsdream

Sorry nark.
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Postby jnd94 on Thu May 03, 2007 3:54 pm

not pro-town doesnt mean pro-mafia idiots. there are such things as cults too. :roll: lets lynch mafia tonight and we can deal with a cult later. A cult will just stay the same, it cant grow(I think) and it cant kill (I think). lets take care of scum before we take a chance with vincents shit claim.
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Postby Huckleberryhound on Thu May 03, 2007 4:28 pm

Ok, i'm getting confused.....can we have a list of all the possible rolls in this game (from spin please)
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Postby Vincent M on Thu May 03, 2007 4:55 pm

jnd94 wrote: before we take a chance with vincents shit claim.


We will see how much of a shit claim I have when he dies and turns out to be mafia
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Postby pancakemix on Thu May 03, 2007 5:00 pm

jnd94 wrote:not pro-town doesnt mean pro-mafia idiots. there are such things as cults too. :roll: lets lynch mafia tonight and we can deal with a cult later. A cult will just stay the same, it cant grow(I think) and it cant kill (I think). lets take care of scum before we take a chance with vincents shit claim.


Cult Leader: Recruits people into his cult every night. If he attempts to recruit scum he dies. Sometimes he can communicate with his followers at night via PM.

Cult Member: Town member recruited into the cult.
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Postby Selin on Thu May 03, 2007 5:36 pm

jnd94 wrote:not pro-town doesnt mean pro-mafia idiots. there are such things as cults too. :roll: lets lynch mafia tonight and we can deal with a cult later. A cult will just stay the same, it cant grow(I think) and it cant kill (I think). lets take care of scum before we take a chance with vincents shit claim.


jnd,

if there is a cult in the game then there is a cult leader in the majority of the cases. the cult will recruit 1 player each night and grow. They can win individually, if they are big enough.
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Postby Selin on Thu May 03, 2007 5:44 pm

another possibility for AD is being a serial killer, however last night there was only one kill. so AD is probably cult (leader?) of course there is a probability that AD tried to kill Vincent and someone (doc) protected him.
I have still question marks regarding FBI roles. I wonder if they are they in addition to the regular roles (doc and cop). However we didn't get a clue from spin. If there is not a normal doc other than FBI doc, then you can forget the theory that someone protected AD.

Since it is now clear that vincent is an inventor and panicker didn't hesitate to share this info with us, I assume that both of them are pro town.
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Postby Huckleberryhound on Thu May 03, 2007 5:44 pm

FOS jnd94


for being a bit too protective of anarchists dream, and trying to discredit vincent even after paniker confirmed his role.
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Postby Selin on Thu May 03, 2007 5:57 pm

spinwizard wrote:only 10 votes, sorry guyz but this is a no lynch!

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NIGHT 2



spin, i'm missing vital information in your vote counts
you should post who voted who in which order. thats very important for us to analyze possible scums. I'm trying for the last 15 minutes to find out the bandwagonning on Vincent last day to see who voted him when.

Can you please post those infos also?

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Postby kalishnikov on Thu May 03, 2007 6:18 pm

jnd94 wrote:not pro-town doesnt mean pro-mafia idiots. there are such things as cults too. :roll: lets lynch mafia tonight and we can deal with a cult later. A cult will just stay the same, it cant grow(I think) and it cant kill (I think). lets take care of scum before we take a chance with vincents shit claim.


Exactly, thank you. Someone does hear me...
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Postby Selin on Thu May 03, 2007 6:39 pm

kalishnikov wrote:
jnd94 wrote:not pro-town doesnt mean pro-mafia idiots. there are such things as cults too. :roll: lets lynch mafia tonight and we can deal with a cult later. A cult will just stay the same, it cant grow(I think) and it cant kill (I think). lets take care of scum before we take a chance with vincents shit claim.


Exactly, thank you. Someone does hear me...


Hmmm...

As I said before, if there is a cult in this game that means (assuming it started with only 1 cult recruiter) we have 3 cult members including recruiter now. (the recruiter recruits in night and we had 2 nights)

jnd's post makes me think that he belongs to the cult too. I have a suspicion about the third one, but for the time being I don't want to name him.

Our problem with the cult is that it grows every night, until the recruiter tries to recruit a mafia member (in this case the recruiter will die). If we don't kill AD (hoping that he is the recruiter), they may win the game as majority.

Considering that AD may be also sk or mafia, I will vote him.

Vote: Anarkistdream
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Postby kalishnikov on Thu May 03, 2007 6:42 pm

Huckleberryhound:

Basically there are 3 factions to a standard mafia game:

1. Pro-town: Townies
2. Pro-Mafia: Mafia and their helpers
3. "Independents" (I've heard them refered to as different names): Thats the Serial Killer, the Jester, Cultists, Masons, and various others who's role determines how they win. I.E., the Jester wins when he's lycnhed during the day, the serial killer wins when everyone else is dead, etc. They aren't pro-anyone, except themselves.

Anarkistsdream is the third type. Not immediatly detremental to the town, they have their own agenda. Their just as bad for mafia as town.

We need to lynch scum, not Unaligned, at the moment.
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Postby jnd94 on Thu May 03, 2007 6:45 pm

kalishnikov wrote:Huckleberryhound:

Basically there are 3 factions to a standard mafia game:

1. Pro-town: Townies
2. Pro-Mafia: Mafia and their helpers
3. "Independents" (I've heard them refered to as different names): Thats the Serial Killer, the Jester, Cultists, Masons, and various others who's role determines how they win. I.E., the Jester wins when he's lycnhed during the day, the serial killer wins when everyone else is dead, etc. They aren't pro-anyone, except themselves.

Anarkistsdream is the third type. Not immediatly detremental to the town, they have their own agenda. Their just as bad for mafia as town.

We need to lynch scum, not Unaligned, at the moment.


lets wait until we are certain that we have dented the mafia population before we got take out a "maybe" cult. You never know how taking that out can affect the game.
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Postby Huckleberryhound on Thu May 03, 2007 7:33 pm

kalishnikov wrote:Huckleberryhound:

Basically there are 3 factions to a standard mafia game:

1. Pro-town: Townies
2. Pro-Mafia: Mafia and their helpers
3. "Independents" (I've heard them refered to as different names): Thats the Serial Killer, the Jester, Cultists, Masons, and various others who's role determines how they win. I.E., the Jester wins when he's lycnhed during the day, the serial killer wins when everyone else is dead, etc. They aren't pro-anyone, except themselves.

Anarkistsdream is the third type. Not immediatly detremental to the town, they have their own agenda. Their just as bad for mafia as town.

We need to lynch scum, not Unaligned, at the moment.


This is where the FOS comes in. You have as much proof that AD is a cultist, as you do that Vincent is whatever he says he is, but you and JND feel obliged to protect him....ergo yous are either cultists, or mafia friends.

The fact that there is no proof that there actually is a cult in the game leads me to believe that yous are protecting an evil for your own reasons......i'm guessing yous are team mates.
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Postby CBlake on Thu May 03, 2007 8:18 pm

Vincent M wrote:
Aegnor wrote:OK wait a minute here! Vincent is alive after last night's scene, which could open a couple possibilities:
1. Vince is a lying scum and therefore he didn't get night killed.
2. Vince is a town inventor, like he claimed, and he was protected during the night.

Now I'm not sure about any of these, I just want to hear from Vince:
What was your night action, and what did you find out from it?


Investigate Anarkist Dream

and I found out he was no pro town whicj means he is most likely scum


he doesnt have to tell you exactly what his role is, he could tell you something completely different
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Postby willis on Thu May 03, 2007 9:03 pm

Vincent M wrote:If someone is not protown he needs to die right now before he can do more damage


I agree with this statement, and since AD said he was not pro town..
Vote AD
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Postby dwightschrute on Thu May 03, 2007 9:06 pm

willis wrote:
Vincent M wrote:If someone is not protown he needs to die right now before he can do more damage


I agree with this statement, and since AD said he was not pro town..
Vote AD
if he said hes not protown i gotta go Vote: AD
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Postby wiggybowler on Thu May 03, 2007 9:08 pm

I'm not sure what to do so I will wait and see what develops before I vote.

jnd and kalishnikov do seem suspicious though.
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Postby dwightschrute on Thu May 03, 2007 9:09 pm

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Postby jnd94 on Thu May 03, 2007 9:12 pm

wiggybowler wrote:I'm not sure what to do so I will wait and see what develops before I vote.

jnd and kalishnikov do seem suspicious though.


your joking, right? We dont need to get rid of a cult that isnt an immediate danger. Mafia is an immediate danger BECAUSE THEY CAN KILL PEOPLE!!!!! Cult can only recruit, and there are enough people that it wont be a problem for a while. Why dont we look for scum, and not cult?
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Postby wiggybowler on Thu May 03, 2007 9:29 pm

Who jumped on the bandwagon against Vincent?
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Postby kalishnikov on Thu May 03, 2007 9:49 pm

jnd94 wrote:
wiggybowler wrote:I'm not sure what to do so I will wait and see what develops before I vote.

jnd and kalishnikov do seem suspicious though.


your joking, right? We dont need to get rid of a cult that isnt an immediate danger. Mafia is an immediate danger BECAUSE THEY CAN KILL PEOPLE!!!!! Cult can only recruit, and there are enough people that it wont be a problem for a while. Why dont we look for scum, and not cult?


Again, all I can say is exactly.


I'm not protecting anyone, if you re-read, I FOS'ed AD and he got defensive, we carried on well into the "night." I would have voted then if I had more evidence, now he SHOULD DIE, we just shouldn't lynch him right now; he's not our immedeate concern. Scum need to die first, then whatever AD is (maybe cultist? I dunno).

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Postby kalishnikov on Thu May 03, 2007 9:53 pm

dwightschrute wrote:
willis wrote:
Vincent M wrote:If someone is not protown he needs to die right now before he can do more damage


I agree with this statement, and since AD said he was not pro town..
Vote AD
if he said hes not protown i gotta go Vote: AD


FOS:dwightschrute

Your above statement implies that you either skim too much or just don't read it at all. Sounds like a bandwagon to me....
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Postby pancakemix on Thu May 03, 2007 9:57 pm

Vote Anarkist

Yes, I just dropped the hammer. Here's why.

Anarkist will be lynched anyway. Therefore I will die. So will jnd. We are Suicide Death Cult. Jnd recruits someone, they join the cult. We die if one of our own dies. Jnd wouldn't be freaking out so much if Anarkist wasn't in the cult, so he must be. So, in other words, this is the dumbest role ever.
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Postby willis on Thu May 03, 2007 10:00 pm

pancakemix wrote:Vote Anarkist

Yes, I just dropped the hammer. Here's why.

Anarkist will be lynched anyway. Therefore I will die. So will jnd. We are Suicide Death Cult. Jnd recruits someone, they join the cult. We die if one of our own dies. Jnd wouldn't be freaking out so much if Anarkist wasn't in the cult, so he must be. So, in other words, this is the dumbest role ever.


I kind of agree with the bolded part...
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