Operation Fluke: Immortalized

[thegreekdog]

Does the Catholic Church outright run all of these organizations? Or do the organizations just align themselves with the Church and their teachings? Either way, the administration only exempts the churches themselves and not the other organizations they may be involved in. These organizations are already established as non-profit, religious entities through 501(c)(3) filings, so why is the government interfering with the way the organizations are run? That's a blatant violation of the first amendment, and it's a violation of the "separation of church and state" that liberals always attack conservatives for. Yet it's ok for the government to violate it but not for religious individuals to affect the government. Hypocrisy 101 from the left.

In the Philadelphia area the Church runs those organizations itself. So, for example, the schools are run by the archdiocese or diocese. They may be led by laypeople, but the Church itself has control. I'm not sure how it works elsewhere.

Like I said before, I haven't seen any Catholics (other than Santorum) get up in arms since the president executed the waiver.

[Phatscotty]

I enjoyed Greekdawg's timeline back there, as he nailed it. The price of freedom is to defend freedom no matter what the issue is or how unimportant it seems. If you believe in freedom of speech, then you need to be prepared to stand up for the speech that you hate the most. If you believe in freedom of religion, then you need to be prepared to take up the fight for religious freedom, even when it's not your own religion.

Whatever religion's freedom comes under attack , I will be a voice for that religion.

[Lootifer]

First and foremost, Fluke is not only a student at Georgetown University, but also a political activist to the tenth power.

I think you either wanted to italic both "not" and "only" or just "only". Happy to be of service.

[Phatscotty]

First and foremost, Fluke is not only a student at Georgetown University, but also a political activist to the tenth power.

I think you either wanted to italic both "not" and "only" or just "only". Happy to be of service.

Appreciate it Loot, but I already have enough spell checkers and grammar nazis carrying the intellectual load...

[thegreekdog]

So, in essence, an insurance company can avoid a requirement to cover contraceptives as long as its executives said that covering them went against their religious beliefs? Is that why we can take out of BVP's post?

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. I think the answer is yes. Another list...

(1) We operate under the presumption that the Affordable Care Act forces people to purchase health insurance.
(2) We operate under the presumption that forcing someone to purchase something is constitutional. I don't believe it is, but so be it.
(3) The Affordable Care Act requires that insurance companies provide health insurance for contraceptives (or else!).
(4) If an insurance company CEO does not provide health insurance for contraceptives due to his or her religious beliefs... well, clearly there is a violation of freedom of religion in there somewhere. That being said, it's beyond the realm of possibility that an insurance company and its shareholders would possibly not cover health insurance for contraceptives because that means giving up loot.

[Phatscotty]

Georgetown Rejects Fluke-Led Effort on Contraception

Sandra Fluke, the militant feminist activist-cum-Georgetown Law School student, has fallen short in her effort to force Georgetown to pay for her birth control. Today, Georgetown University President John J. DeGoia released the following letter, in which he explained that the university would not cave to pressure from Fluke or President Obama:

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen:

I write to you regarding Georgetown’s health insurance and contraceptive coverage in our plans. Many members of our community have expressed different perspectives on this issue. I am grateful for the respectful ways in which you have shared your opinions.

As you know, like most universities, Georgetown requires that students have health insurance. Students are not required to purchase their health insurance through Georgetown University and are free to acquire health insurance through a third party. The student plan offered by Georgetown is consistent with our Catholic and Jesuit identity and does not cover prescription contraceptives for birth control. It does provide coverage for these prescriptions for students who require them for health reasons unrelated to birth control, as determined by a physician.

After thoughtful and careful consideration, we will continue our current practice for contraceptive coverage in our student health insurance for the coming year, as allowed for under the current rules issued by the United States Department of Health and Human Services.

There will also be no change to the University’s approach to contraceptive coverage for employees for 2013.

We will be monitoring further regulatory and judicial developments related to the Affordable Care Act. I hope this is helpful in clarifying a matter of concern to many of you.

You have my very best wishes as we conclude our academic year.

Sincerely,

John J. DeGioia

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... Georgetown Rejects Fluke-Led Effort on Contraception

[Night Strike]

I'm glad someone actually stood up to the progressives' War On Religion.

[Phatscotty]

No wonder Nancy Pelosi wants to change the first Amendment.

They have such a problem with freedom, free speech, free markets. But don't you dare call them un-American!

[Symmetry]

I enjoyed Greekdawg's timeline back there, as he nailed it. The price of freedom is to defend freedom no matter what the issue is or how unimportant it seems. If you believe in freedom of speech, then you need to be prepared to stand up for the speech that you hate the most. If you believe in freedom of religion, then you need to be prepared to take up the fight for religious freedom, even when it's not your own religion.

Whatever religion's freedom comes under attack , I will be a voice for that religion.

Even Westboro Baptist Church concerning their protests at soldier's funerals?

[Night Strike]

I enjoyed Greekdawg's timeline back there, as he nailed it. The price of freedom is to defend freedom no matter what the issue is or how unimportant it seems. If you believe in freedom of speech, then you need to be prepared to stand up for the speech that you hate the most. If you believe in freedom of religion, then you need to be prepared to take up the fight for religious freedom, even when it's not your own religion.

Whatever religion's freedom comes under attack , I will be a voice for that religion.

Even Westboro Baptist Church concerning their protests at soldier's funerals?

The Westboro people aren't religious: they're a family of lawyers who try to use religion to protect their hate speech.

[Symmetry]

I enjoyed Greekdawg's timeline back there, as he nailed it. The price of freedom is to defend freedom no matter what the issue is or how unimportant it seems. If you believe in freedom of speech, then you need to be prepared to stand up for the speech that you hate the most. If you believe in freedom of religion, then you need to be prepared to take up the fight for religious freedom, even when it's not your own religion.

Whatever religion's freedom comes under attack , I will be a voice for that religion.

Even Westboro Baptist Church concerning their protests at soldier's funerals?

The Westboro people aren't religious: they're a family of lawyers who try to use religion to protect their hate speech.

That's pretty weak. They're a religion. I find them disgusting, but then I don't pretend to be about absolute freedom of speech and religion.

[Night Strike]

I enjoyed Greekdawg's timeline back there, as he nailed it. The price of freedom is to defend freedom no matter what the issue is or how unimportant it seems. If you believe in freedom of speech, then you need to be prepared to stand up for the speech that you hate the most. If you believe in freedom of religion, then you need to be prepared to take up the fight for religious freedom, even when it's not your own religion.

Whatever religion's freedom comes under attack , I will be a voice for that religion.

Even Westboro Baptist Church concerning their protests at soldier's funerals?

The Westboro people aren't religious: they're a family of lawyers who try to use religion to protect their hate speech.

That's pretty weak. They're a religion. I find them disgusting, but then I don't pretend to be about absolute freedom of speech and religion.

Just because they have "Baptist Church" in their name doesn't make them a religion (and it sure doesn't make them Baptist). There are only a couple of people in that "church" who aren't from the same family. They have studied law and decided the best way to protect their hate was to disguise it as a religion.

[Symmetry]

I enjoyed Greekdawg's timeline back there, as he nailed it. The price of freedom is to defend freedom no matter what the issue is or how unimportant it seems. If you believe in freedom of speech, then you need to be prepared to stand up for the speech that you hate the most. If you believe in freedom of religion, then you need to be prepared to take up the fight for religious freedom, even when it's not your own religion.

Whatever religion's freedom comes under attack , I will be a voice for that religion.

Even Westboro Baptist Church concerning their protests at soldier's funerals?

The Westboro people aren't religious: they're a family of lawyers who try to use religion to protect their hate speech.

That's pretty weak. They're a religion. I find them disgusting, but then I don't pretend to be about absolute freedom of speech and religion.

Just because they have "Baptist Church" in their name doesn't make them a religion (and it sure doesn't make them Baptist). There are only a couple of people in that "church" who aren't from the same family. They have studied law and decided the best way to protect their hate was to disguise it as a religion.

I'm well aware of their make-up and history. Would you like to see an interesting documentary on them?

Part 1

Sorry, they're a religion.

[Phatscotty]

I enjoyed Greekdawg's timeline back there, as he nailed it. The price of freedom is to defend freedom no matter what the issue is or how unimportant it seems. If you believe in freedom of speech, then you need to be prepared to stand up for the speech that you hate the most. If you believe in freedom of religion, then you need to be prepared to take up the fight for religious freedom, even when it's not your own religion.

Whatever religion's freedom comes under attack , I will be a voice for that religion.

Even Westboro Baptist Church concerning their protests at soldier's funerals?

Even Nazi speech during WW2

(why do people keep bringing up religious groups with a population of 7?)

[Phatscotty]

Time nominates Sandra Fluke for ‘Person of the Year’

Time has nominated the new face of birth control as their “Person of the Year 2012.”

The newly minted lawyer secured a Democratic National Convention speaking slot, and spent much of the campaign discussing issues that assisted in Obama’s significant margin of victory among single women voters.

She is joined on Time’s candidate list by 2008 Person of the Year President Obama, former presidential candidate Mitt Romney, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, 1992′s Man of the Year and former President Bill Clinton, Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu among others.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/27/time- ... z2DSh9zpII

[thegreekdog]

Time nominates Sandra Fluke for ‘Person of the Year’

Time has nominated the new face of birth control as their “Person of the Year 2012.”

The newly minted lawyer secured a Democratic National Convention speaking slot, and spent much of the campaign discussing issues that assisted in Obama’s significant margin of victory among single women voters.

She is joined on Time’s candidate list by 2008 Person of the Year President Obama, former presidential candidate Mitt Romney, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, 1992′s Man of the Year and former President Bill Clinton, Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu among others.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/27/time- ... z2DSh9zpII

That's kind of a weak list. I predict Morsi will win it.