patches70 wrote:John Adams and Jefferson were of a like mind on the issue of a Central Bank that can create our currency.
Like I've maintained, until the debt based currency system is changed, no plan or action will fix these other issues.
Were they? John Adams was a New Englander and Jefferson was a Virginian slave master. New England joined the war, largely, because of the currency manipulation in New England done by.... the Bank of England. Jefferson, on the other hand, was hugely indebted to the Bank and many others. Before the war would end he would find new creditors in the Netherlands, and later came to despise the Dutch banking system. And again, this is due to their wanting him to repay his debts.
Our Central Bank has kept our nation afloat during times of crisis like the Depression and WWII, and while you might say our Central Bank caused these crises, you cannot deny that without it we would not be the one-world superpower today. I don't know what you're bitching about exactly, probably some gold standard sh*t, but I'm a historian, and you don't know jack, You're quoting without context. Once the war ended, all of our founders except for Washington and Adams turned into b*tchy, two-faced high school girls, all with hidden and mischievous goals.
Furthermore, I'm going to address how we will fix these "other issues" that you haven't laid out. John Adams, with the support of Eldebridge Gerry and others actually designed our system of government so that America's "Natural Aristocracy," would be able to wield great power in the legislative branch, but the Executive branch would allow the people to regain or keep control. It's all laid out in Adams' book on government. There has been a natural cycle of corruption and reemergence since then, just as Adams predicted. Our system is brilliant. Today, obviously, we live in one of those periods where we need to regain control of the legislature.
Now control of wallstreet and the banking cartels would be nice, but as I have worked for banks, I know the goal cannot be to destroy them. and you know that the legislature is the body politic who are supposed to be wrangling the banks in. And yet, I question that you actually have some special insight that I don't have. We've sent Elizabeth Warren to capital hill, and now we are giving her subpena power. My faith, as always, resides in the power and will of the people to move true leaders to the capital. Your soap boxing doesn't appear any different to the soap boxing of the 1930s.
patches70 wrote:How hilarious. Jim Sinegal has a net worth of around $2 billion. LMFO!!!!!!
I actually went with this jpeg because I already knew everything you were going to say. Notice I didn't say anything specific except "this is how it should work."
Did you know, well, of course you didn't know, but Mr Sinegel along with the rest of the board of Costco, voted to pay an early dividend check to the shareholders (they are included BTW) before the year is out to avoid the increased taxes on said dividends.http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142
That is a $3billion Christmas gift that will be taxed at 15% instead of the 43.3% that it would have been taxed come January 1.
Yeah. See how you get played, Juan? Like a fiddle.
I actually did know this, and I don't understand why you think I should have a problem with it? You're juxtaposing and presenting a false image of my ideals. Or to be more clear: you made up some lies about me in your head.
This company isn't giving their board big fat checks by taking money away from their workers, which was the point of my last posts. So while it is a bit sad somehow maybe that they avoided paying triple taxes, they didn't do anything that was illegal or that was outright immoral. I can't even say that it's in the grey area.
You continue to act smugly and condescendingly, but you invented a false version of me and of history to attack and/or support your position. You don't look as smart as you think that you do.