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john9blue wrote:Haggis_McMutton wrote:john9blue wrote:Haggis_McMutton wrote:john9blue wrote:so what you're saying is that it's programmers all the way down? :P that argument has never really appealed to me simply because particles cannot (from what we know) be infinitely small, and therefore it can't really be an infinite chain downwards unless we can simulate particles to be smaller than they actually are, or simulate space to be bigger than it actually is.
The infinite chain is problematic. But we don't need the infinite chain. Even if from our vantage point we can only go 20 simulations deep before the 20th simulation is too simplistic to give rise to intelligent life, well even that would put the chances that we're on top at about what? 2% ?
if there is a bottom then there is probably a top
Yeah, but the chance that we're the top is small.
but the ultimate question of origin remains unanswered
_sabotage_ wrote:No 10,000 years show people fucking each other over for their own interest
_sabotage_ wrote:10,000 years show that people who didn't believe this spent their life dominating others.
_sabotage_ wrote:I never said belief in religion, belief in religious leaders, belief in superiority because you feel you have a superior position bc you have a god or a superior god to others.
Perhaps you can read what I said, and perhaps you can even attempt to answer some of the questions I posed.
_sabotage_ wrote:God is everything.
We are part of everything. We are equal parts of everything. Attacking any part is attacking the whole.
Being part of everything, we will always be part of everything.
_sabotage_ wrote:i've defined my position, if you don't want to define yours, that's ok.
jonesthecurl wrote:I don't need God to tell me to be a good boy.
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
john9blue wrote:i recommend full aggression.jonesthecurl wrote:I don't need God to tell me to be a good boy.
no, you just need a society influenced by religion to tell you that.
_sabotage_ wrote:I posted a position and questions. You post misrepresentations of my position and therein say I'm wrong. Passive-aggressive, aggressive or non-aggressive, it doesn't make much difference, I am proposing, you are nitpicking. This thread asked us for our reasoning for or against god. I have followed through.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
_sabotage_ wrote:Can you agree that everything comes from nothing?
If so, can you agree that inherent qualities in matter construct the world and we can reasonably decide that these are random or guided?
If so, what does the choice say about out interest? What does it say about our belief in a purpose?
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Belief in god will naturally lead to belief in your superiority when you realize that other people don't share your unique and 100% true insight about the universe. Certain scientific beliefs will cause the same things, but at least those have some grounding in reality.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
All your post is just a story. You are telling a story about how belief in god is good for society, but you're not basing this on any facts or reasoned arguments, it's just a story. I can tell the exact opposite story from yours if you want, but it still won't be worth anything.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Anyway, if you wanna start this discussion in earnest, problem #1 is: define your god.
Gillipig wrote:Don't we have like 100 of these threads?
Bruceswar » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:59 pm wrote:We all had tons of men..
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