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Fog of war courtesy

Postby Gillipig on Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:33 am

I constantly play games now with people who have no class. They attack sometimes less than a minute after they join my game and refuse to tell me which regions they attacked. Cunts, I've actually started foeing them. And I NEVER otherwise foe.
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby ben.cleuch on Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:38 am

It would seem to be the norm, especially in 1v1
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby AyeTrain on Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:14 pm

Gillipig wrote:I constantly play games now with people who have no class. They attack sometimes less than a minute after they join my game and refuse to tell me which regions they attacked. Cunts, I've actually started foeing them. And I NEVER otherwise foe.


Isn't attacking the point of the game? And why would they tell you what region they attacked?
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:54 pm

AyeTrain wrote:
Gillipig wrote:I constantly play games now with people who have no class. They attack sometimes less than a minute after they join my game and refuse to tell me which regions they attacked. Cunts, I've actually started foeing them. And I NEVER otherwise foe.


Isn't attacking the point of the game? And why would they tell you what region they attacked?


LOL; I believe he is referring to multiple player fog games where he does not get to see the original starting position.

Sometimes in teams they even agree to what is called a 12 hour fog rule where the first player does not play for 12 hours so as to give everyone the peak at the original positions.

If it's just one person who has played or a 1vs1 then it is not much to cry about, but after several players have made their attacks, a lot of the original information could be lost for the rest of the game.

And as they say in the "JOE's," "Knowing, is half the Battle."
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby Gillipig on Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:36 pm

Viceroy63 wrote:
AyeTrain wrote:
Gillipig wrote:I constantly play games now with people who have no class. They attack sometimes less than a minute after they join my game and refuse to tell me which regions they attacked. Cunts, I've actually started foeing them. And I NEVER otherwise foe.


Isn't attacking the point of the game? And why would they tell you what region they attacked?


LOL; I believe he is referring to multiple player fog games where he does not get to see the original starting position.

Sometimes in teams they even agree to what is called a 12 hour fog rule where the first player does not play for 12 hours so as to give everyone the peak at the original positions.

If it's just one person who has played or a 1vs1 then it is not much to cry about, but after several players have made their attacks, a lot of the original information could be lost for the rest of the game.

And as they say in the "JOE's," "Knowing, is half the Battle."

No, I mean in singles too! It totally fucks the game if someone takes down 4 of your regions before you even get to see where they are. Fog of war courtesy involves waiting 12 hours before taking the first turn of a game so that the other player can see where his regions are. It doesn't matter whether it's a team game or not.
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:11 pm

Gillipig wrote:
Viceroy63 wrote:
AyeTrain wrote:
Gillipig wrote:I constantly play games now with people who have no class. They attack sometimes less than a minute after they join my game and refuse to tell me which regions they attacked. Cunts, I've actually started foeing them. And I NEVER otherwise foe.


Isn't attacking the point of the game? And why would they tell you what region they attacked?


LOL; I believe he is referring to multiple player fog games where he does not get to see the original starting position.

Sometimes in teams they even agree to what is called a 12 hour fog rule where the first player does not play for 12 hours so as to give everyone the peak at the original positions.

If it's just one person who has played or a 1vs1 then it is not much to cry about, but after several players have made their attacks, a lot of the original information could be lost for the rest of the game.

And as they say in the "JOE's," "Knowing, is half the Battle."

No, I mean in singles too! It totally fucks the game if someone takes down 4 of your regions before you even get to see where they are. Fog of war courtesy involves waiting 12 hours before taking the first turn of a game so that the other player can see where his regions are. It doesn't matter whether it's a team game or not.


GiliPIG; LOL. I'm going to send you an invite for a 1vs1 so that you can show me where that "fucks" up the game. Hopefully you'll get to go first and take out 4 of my regions as you say. I won't even be watching the game in case you do get to go first so that I won't have any idea of your original position. Except of course for when it's my turn to play. =)

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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby DJPatrick on Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:35 pm

? Gillipig??? I've played about 3K Foggies and never heard of this (altho granted I've never played you in one)...don't see why it's necessary...would also be a bit of a hindrance in Fog Speed games? lol
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby NoSurvivors on Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:09 pm

Im gonna go play some speed fog games and yell at people for not waiting the "standard" 12 hours to let me see my turns :p
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby iamkoolerthanu on Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:14 am

I usually only follow the FoW courtesy 'rule' when playing team games. Or tourny games. And even then only when it won't make it so its a pain to take my turn, I won't risk missing for it
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby Jippd on Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:45 am

Try making private games. Have people PM you for the PW and tell them there is a FOW rule if they want to join. Post in callouts to get joiners. Should solve your problem.
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby Gillipig on Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:00 am

Jippd wrote:Try making private games. Have people PM you for the PW and tell them there is a FOW rule if they want to join. Post in callouts to get joiners. Should solve your problem.

Too hard to get games started that way, I'd have to settle with playing very few games. Better to just foe all the assholes!

iamkoolerthanu wrote:I usually only follow the FoW courtesy 'rule' when playing team games. Or tourny games. And even then only when it won't make it so its a pain to take my turn, I won't risk missing for it

If you have to take your turn then at least post in game chat which regions you took. If you do that then you will have followed fog of war courtesy.

Viceroy63 wrote:
Gillipig wrote:
Viceroy63 wrote:
AyeTrain wrote:
Gillipig wrote:I constantly play games now with people who have no class. They attack sometimes less than a minute after they join my game and refuse to tell me which regions they attacked. Cunts, I've actually started foeing them. And I NEVER otherwise foe.


Isn't attacking the point of the game? And why would they tell you what region they attacked?


LOL; I believe he is referring to multiple player fog games where he does not get to see the original starting position.

Sometimes in teams they even agree to what is called a 12 hour fog rule where the first player does not play for 12 hours so as to give everyone the peak at the original positions.

If it's just one person who has played or a 1vs1 then it is not much to cry about, but after several players have made their attacks, a lot of the original information could be lost for the rest of the game.

And as they say in the "JOE's," "Knowing, is half the Battle."

No, I mean in singles too! It totally fucks the game if someone takes down 4 of your regions before you even get to see where they are. Fog of war courtesy involves waiting 12 hours before taking the first turn of a game so that the other player can see where his regions are. It doesn't matter whether it's a team game or not.


GiliPIG; LOL. I'm going to send you an invite for a 1vs1 so that you can show me where that "fucks" up the game. Hopefully you'll get to go first and take out 4 of my regions as you say. I won't even be watching the game in case you do get to go first so that I won't have any idea of your original position. Except of course for when it's my turn to play. =)

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There it is GilliPIG! Do you accept?

I would if it were a larger map, create one with Forbidden City and without trench (obviously) and you'll see what I mean.
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby Viceroy63 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:42 am

OK; So then that is only possible on some larger maps and with the right settings. Gotcha! ;)

How's about World 2.0? I don't know the Forbidden City Map.
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby AyeTrain on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:35 am

Gillipig wrote:
Viceroy63 wrote:
AyeTrain wrote:
Gillipig wrote:I constantly play games now with people who have no class. They attack sometimes less than a minute after they join my game and refuse to tell me which regions they attacked. Cunts, I've actually started foeing them. And I NEVER otherwise foe.


Isn't attacking the point of the game? And why would they tell you what region they attacked?


LOL; I believe he is referring to multiple player fog games where he does not get to see the original starting position.

Sometimes in teams they even agree to what is called a 12 hour fog rule where the first player does not play for 12 hours so as to give everyone the peak at the original positions.

If it's just one person who has played or a 1vs1 then it is not much to cry about, but after several players have made their attacks, a lot of the original information could be lost for the rest of the game.

And as they say in the "JOE's," "Knowing, is half the Battle."

No, I mean in singles too! It totally fucks the game if someone takes down 4 of your regions before you even get to see where they are. Fog of war courtesy involves waiting 12 hours before taking the first turn of a game so that the other player can see where his regions are. It doesn't matter whether it's a team game or not.


Ah, I see what you mean. Yes, that's a bit annoying, but it's just part of foggy games. Sometimes it works for you, sometimes it works against you (just like the dice). I've never heard of this courtesy rule before, so I don't find it surprising that lots of other players don't play by it.
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby ZeekLTK on Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:38 pm

Play with manual deploy then, you are guaranteed to see where your territories are before the game "starts"... because it doesn't start until all players have placed their troops (and therefore, all players have seen the board).
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Re: Fog of war courtesy

Postby Jippd on Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:22 am

ZeekLTK wrote:Play with manual deploy then, you are guaranteed to see where your territories are before the game "starts"... because it doesn't start until all players have placed their troops (and therefore, all players have seen the board).

I would want to see what troop position and how much was dropped where more than just the start territory. I bet a lot more gets taken in the first few rounds with manual especially on bigger maps. This would just add to the confusion of not getting a proper snap
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