Well the Yith was by accident and we had no clue how we culted him originally. So I wasn't all that powerful Betiko Though yeah, I wish I had help from them when I was pretty much dead on correct on having a majority win achievable.
Just to put it into perspective for everyone, if you had listened to me when the chance was there instead of only Spiesr, safari, Newguy, soundman, Kanin, (and Iron B I think?) winning.
It would have been all of the above, plus all the cult, plus all unaligned humans. The only ones who would have lost would be Hippo, Elon, Elder Things, Little Witt v1, and depending on Nendreel's win condition him.
Hehe, so how do people feel now with hindsight?
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betiko wrote:you never came up with good explanations on all your night actions. I carefully selected all my targets all game long and I said nothing but the truth being 100% cooperative. Not to mention the proofs that there was another SK killing townies (you!!!!!). I've actually technically worked as a vig and did nothing to harm town (had no reason to, they were all revived). Even killed elder things and a cult zombie. I doubt you could've matched my town credit any day..
For the longest time I couldn't figure out what either of you were. That you let Doom live for so long meant that neither of you were Vigs, or trying to act as a Vig. But then neither of you took a shot at me which an SK would want to do right away.
jak111 wrote:It would have been all of the above, plus all the cult, plus all unaligned humans. The only ones who would have lost would be Hippo, Elon, Elder Things, Little Witt v1, and depending on Nendreel's win condition him.
Hehe, so how do people feel now with hindsight?
My WC was that I needed to re-animate 4 people. When you made your offer I only had 2/4. Your deal would have left me out in the cold unless we came up with a way to kill recruits for me to re-animate.
betiko wrote:you never came up with good explanations on all your night actions. I carefully selected all my targets all game long and I said nothing but the truth being 100% cooperative. Not to mention the proofs that there was another SK killing townies (you!!!!!). I've actually technically worked as a vig and did nothing to harm town (had no reason to, they were all revived). Even killed elder things and a cult zombie. I doubt you could've matched my town credit any day..
For the longest time I couldn't figure out what either of you were. That you let Doom live for so long meant that neither of you were Vigs, or trying to act as a Vig. But then neither of you took a shot at me which an SK would want to do right away.
We only had to kill those who hadn't died yet. So neither me nor Betiko were going to kill you off right away, it'd be immediately scummy, and it widened the amount of perspective targets to those who weren't an SK or knew who the win condition was. As for my night actions sure I did, I gave them out choosing carefully for things that would make sense and couldn't be verified one way or the other. I was one of the only ones to give you a night action.
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jak111 wrote:Well the Yith was by accident and we had no clue how we culted him originally. So I wasn't all that powerful Betiko Though yeah, I wish I had help from them when I was pretty much dead on correct on having a majority win achievable.
Just to put it into perspective for everyone, if you had listened to me when the chance was there instead of only Spiesr, safari, Newguy, soundman, Kanin, (and Iron B I think?) winning.
It would have been all of the above, plus all the cult, plus all unaligned humans. The only ones who would have lost would be Hippo, Elon, Elder Things, Little Witt v1, and depending on Nendreel's win condition him.
Hehe, so how do people feel now with hindsight?
I think that most probably hippo, myself and rishaed also won almost sure hippo got his WC, IB won too.
If jonty piggy backed on me, i guess he was on my SK WC that aparently is not counted, he is not hippo aligned as myself aparently.
betiko wrote:you never came up with good explanations on all your night actions. I carefully selected all my targets all game long and I said nothing but the truth being 100% cooperative. Not to mention the proofs that there was another SK killing townies (you!!!!!). I've actually technically worked as a vig and did nothing to harm town (had no reason to, they were all revived). Even killed elder things and a cult zombie. I doubt you could've matched my town credit any day..
For the longest time I couldn't figure out what either of you were. That you let Doom live for so long meant that neither of you were Vigs, or trying to act as a Vig. But then neither of you took a shot at me which an SK would want to do right away.
We only had to kill those who hadn't died yet. So neither me nor Betiko were going to kill you off right away, it'd be immediately scummy, and it widened the amount of perspective targets to those who weren't an SK or knew who the win condition was. As for my night actions sure I did, I gave them out choosing carefully for things that would make sense and couldn't be verified one way or the other. I was one of the only ones to give you a night action.
yes, we didn't care at all if you revived players and killing you would've been way too scummy. I don't know why the hell hippo killed you though...
rishaed wrote:^ . . . I was sure he was going to get himself lynched after killing nendreel >.>. . . i mean i couldn't even follow his logic. WHY kill the reviver?
Probably because the only non-survivor roles left were himself and the reviver. The safest kills (as the only completely known roles) was Nendreel and PCM other than himself.
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rishaed wrote:^ . . . I was sure he was going to get himself lynched after killing nendreel >.>. . . i mean i couldn't even follow his logic. WHY kill the reviver?
Do we know what condition exactly he was playing towards at that point?
rishaed wrote:^ . . . I was sure he was going to get himself lynched after killing nendreel >.>. . . i mean i couldn't even follow his logic. WHY kill the reviver?
Do we know what condition exactly he was playing towards at that point?
he had the opportunity to kill PCM after that, he killed rodion instead. he got his wc and was just trying to please people i guess.
rishaed wrote:^ . . . I was sure he was going to get himself lynched after killing nendreel >.>. . . i mean i couldn't even follow his logic. WHY kill the reviver?
Do we know what condition exactly he was playing towards at that point?
he had the opportunity to kill PCM after that, he killed rodion instead. he got his wc and was just trying to please people i guess.
Correct!
Loved the game.
Remember the "I know everything" nonsense? That was because I had lost my original PM and could remember my WC and generally what I had to do but not the detail I had to ab lib something dreadful!
witt, what was that thing you couldn't tell about concerning ctulhu's role that you were pretty sure hippo had as hastur as well? were you bullshitting or was there something?
We had 10 different factions and then survivors to boot. . . what an insane game! A few questions. . . . It was put there that with a certain number of "Worshippers" the God could be unsealed. How many would the "god" need. Was the insanity the result of Safari's false result on me? I'm sort of surprised that neither me or Jonty wound up as SK's earlier in the game. And last but not least who all won?
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Many died in the town of Arkham, everyone whose story we have seen these past few days has known death, though some walk again thanks to Herbert West's scientific breakthroguh. Although the early creations desired his death, they too lost such motivation when they were returned to their original state.
Those who tried not to take a side found themselves stricken down without cause. Other chose to support humanity or the unknown, and regardless of their fates, perhaps they can take solace in their greater accomplishments.
Ancient and even timeless battles took place by the strage beings that walked the earth and stars. The great race of Yith continues to survive outside of time, even one is capable of repopulating their species by spores. The Elder things that lurk deep down in the seas have achieved their goal of protecting the earth from the foreign gods, and ultimately retreat back down away from the dangers of the surface, much to the delight of their old creations; the Shoggoth.
Nyarlathotep tried to sow his chaos against humanity, but the creature and his brainwashed followers were ultimately defeated. An ancient feud between two great god was settled, Hastur defeated Cthulhu and returned back to the cosmos, away from the seas of earth his brother occupied for so long.
rishaed wrote:We had 10 different factions and then survivors to boot. . . what an insane game! A few questions. . . . It was put there that with a certain number of "Worshippers" the God could be unsealed. How many would the "god" need. Was the insanity the result of Safari's false result on me?
If either god could get three worshippers they would be summoned with all their powers. No, safari couldn't be driven insane, the cop power in the dreamlands was just Nyarlathotep screwing with people.
I'll post all the actions later. I need to retype it all from a spreadsheet.
Interesting, it seems that if everyone had revealed everything on Day 1 and everybody trusted each other to work to together there could have been 25 winners. (The Cthulhu/Hastor pair being the only place where someone had to lose.) As it is 16 still managed to win.
spiesr wrote:Interesting, it seems that if everyone had revealed everything on Day 1 and everybody trusted each other to work to together there could have been 25 winners. (The Cthulhu/Hastor pair being the only place where someone had to lose.) As it is 16 still managed to win.
However that takes the fun out of the game. . . as it was by D5/6 we basically knew what everyone was by reason of "vanilla" flavor/Yith/Elderthing outing then know pretty much the exact amount of cult. I'm just laughing about the fact that Doom was right about elon, but if elon would have been honest he wouldn't of had to of been lynched.
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spiesr wrote:Interesting, it seems that if everyone had revealed everything on Day 1 and everybody trusted each other to work to together there could have been 25 winners. (The Cthulhu/Hastor pair being the only place where someone had to lose.) As it is 16 still managed to win.
However that takes the fun out of the game. . . as it was by D5/6 we basically knew what everyone was by reason of "vanilla" flavor/Yith/Elderthing outing then know pretty much the exact amount of cult. I'm just laughing about the fact that Doom was right about elon, but if elon would have been honest he wouldn't of had to of been lynched.
Didn't really matter, since the very next thing we did was lynch the Elder Things and fulfill his WC for him. And then kill the Gods and thus fulfill the ET's WC for them. Ah making people win in spite of themselves, good fun.
DoomYoshi wrote:Jak, you can't call me useless. You recruited the only human with no powers at all, so it serves you right. You shouldve gone with one of the killers.
I did not call you useless, but I could have had a hand from the more powerful convertees to help with the case I pushed. Unfortunally it was to no avail and was a poor try with no back-up.
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"All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers"
Though yeah, I wish I had help from them when I was pretty much dead on correct on having a majority win achievable.
I had to ab lib something dreadful! 
was lots of fun playing and scheming 
