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alstergren wrote:Nameless One wrote:No one is making anybody do anything, u don't have to use this list at all, u could completely ignore it. In the end, it is up to the person to put these people on their ignore list, no one is forcing them.Nameless One wrote:No one is making anybody do anything, u don't have to use this list at all, u could completely ignore it. In the end, it is up to the person to put these people on their ignore list, no one is forcing them.
Hehe⦠well, well⦠If I have to spell it out one more time: This list and the people taking part of it is a bunch of very annoying people. The self-righteousness is beyond words. And I find it to be quite appalling. The whole "J'accuse!" thing is ridiculous.
And yes. I will gladly ignore this thread when people stop harassing other players under the clout of public backing like this. In short: Mind your own business, use your ignore list and stop being so pretentious.
Nameless One wrote:No, what's really annoying is when people try to do something good and other people complain for no good reason because I fail to see how this could negativly affect us.
Gengoldy wrote:Of all the games I've played, and there have been some poor sports and cursing players out there, you are by far the lowest and with the least class.
Nameless One wrote:No, what's really annoying is when people try to do something good and other people complain for no good reason because I fail to see how this could negativly affect us.
As far as negative effects is concerned, those effects hit the people being singled out and prosecuted by these nonsense do-gooders with no sense of basic politeness.
alstergren wrote:Nameless One wrote:No, what's really annoying is when people try to do something good and other people complain for no good reason because I fail to see how this could negativly affect us.
I beg to differ. This "list" and the people behind it are ridiculous. And I believe that something good may come out of pointing out that there's a big, pink elephant in the room.
As far as negative effects is concerned, those effects hit the people being singled out and prosecuted by these nonsense do-gooders with no sense of basic politeness.
Nameless One wrote:...I fail to see how this could negativly affect us.
freezie wrote:So, pointing out multis or secret alliances in the cheat forums is persecuting those people? Please develop your argument on why this list is that much different.
Simtom has ''persectued'' hundreds of games, yet you say he shouldn't be here?
Gengoldy wrote:Of all the games I've played, and there have been some poor sports and cursing players out there, you are by far the lowest and with the least class.
alstergren wrote:In the Cheat and Abuse Forum rule violations are dealt with. And, the mods are looking into it, making it clear whether or not a rule violation has occured. After that, players are either banned or cleared. This works fine.
cleveridea wrote:Nameless One wrote:...I fail to see how this could negativly affect us.
Yes, you do fail to see. If you don't see why a self-appointed self-righteous oligarchy creates a mechanism whereby accusations can be made by anyone and judged by only a few, then you definitely aren't seeing the point being made by dissent to such a committee.
The stated purpose of this committee is to help the casual gamer make snap decisions on who should be on their ignore list. Sure, it doesn't have any authority to make that happen. No one is arguing that you do have that authority - so stop defending on that basis.
The point is that the exact same rationale that the casual gamer is very likely to "benefit" from the fruits of this committee - they are likely to assume that this committee has some sort broad support by the die-hard gamers in the community.
With the exception of tahitiwini, the fact that all dissent to this committee has evoked bellicose and overly emotional response proves my point of the unworthiness of both this committee and the members of it to conduct such an ill-conceived effort.
cleveridea wrote:alstergren wrote:In the Cheat and Abuse Forum rule violations are dealt with. And, the mods are looking into it, making it clear whether or not a rule violation has occured. After that, players are either banned or cleared. This works fine.
I also don't see how such a "committee" provides any significant value for most anyone beyond what is already generously provided by the existing system.
When I was new it took very little effort to comb the forums and examine the feedback system to know who were the black holes to avoid.
So for me this committee is at best about helping those who are simply too lazy to help themselves, and it is at worst a witch-hunt. The entire range of that spectrum of possibility disgusts me.
Nameless One wrote:cleveridea wrote:alstergren wrote:In the Cheat and Abuse Forum rule violations are dealt with. And, the mods are looking into it, making it clear whether or not a rule violation has occured. After that, players are either banned or cleared. This works fine.
I also don't see how such a "committee" provides any significant value for most anyone beyond what is already generously provided by the existing system.
When I was new it took very little effort to comb the forums and examine the feedback system to know who were the black holes to avoid.
So for me this committee is at best about helping those who are simply too lazy to help themselves, and it is at worst a witch-hunt. The entire range of that spectrum of possibility disgusts me.
Not all newbs check the forums before entering a game for the first time because most will want to start playing right away, this is to make sure they don't play with the wrong kinds of people and hate the game just because some person wanted to do something stupid or use unfair or annoying tactics.
swiftyswift wrote:You losers take this game way too seriously. ITS A FREAKING GAME!!!
Outlawing people from your games because they use swears, or because they borg, or whatever else the case is nonsense. Come on! So be it...we all know it sucks but we all deal with it. When you start completely black-flagging people because of these stupid reasons you end up creating a place where people don't want to come to. Losen up and get a life. ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS!!
Besides there is a place where this ridiculousness doesn't happen...it's called LANDGRAB. For all of you who don't want to deal with these nerds sitting at their computers all day contemplating ways to whine about about players... come on over. The water is nice.
Robinette wrote:Nameless One wrote:cleveridea wrote:alstergren wrote:In the Cheat and Abuse Forum rule violations are dealt with. And, the mods are looking into it, making it clear whether or not a rule violation has occured. After that, players are either banned or cleared. This works fine.
I also don't see how such a "committee" provides any significant value for most anyone beyond what is already generously provided by the existing system.
When I was new it took very little effort to comb the forums and examine the feedback system to know who were the black holes to avoid.
So for me this committee is at best about helping those who are simply too lazy to help themselves, and it is at worst a witch-hunt. The entire range of that spectrum of possibility disgusts me.
Not all newbs check the forums before entering a game for the first time because most will want to start playing right away, this is to make sure they don't play with the wrong kinds of people and hate the game just because some person wanted to do something stupid or use unfair or annoying tactics.
Soooo... let me see if i understand this... if they don't visit the forums THEN they haven't seen your black list SO you haven't "made sure they don't play with the wrong kinds of people" WHICH means they will "hate the game because because because".
How did any of us survive long enough to actually like this site before this noble effort of yours?
"J'accuse!" le school system for thier failure to teach good sense!
Nameless One wrote:All of the people on the ignore list deserves to be on it.
Captain Crash wrote:Nameless One wrote:All of the people on the ignore list deserves to be on it.
Says which particular over-inflated ego that feels the need to impose their own moral code on the rest of us?
As I have said in the other thread on this topic:
Who died and made you lot boss?
There already exists a fairly simple two step process in which you have two options after you have played some-one:
1 - you enjoy the experience - great, play 'em again, or
2 - you don't like something about their behaviour - so don't play 'em again and if its really offensive to your own standards of behaviour put 'em on your ignore list. If you really want the world to know about their actions then use feedback or the flame forum is that way >>>>
Guilty_Biscuit wrote:I've grown to like the list for the following reasons:
1) There is only 1 person on the list - simtom
2) Since being put on the list simtom has started to play games
Nothing to complain about - yet.
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