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[john9blue]

I would add that humans are the only creatures on the planet able to create works of art or have the potential to be more then what we are. No dolphin will ever create a spaceship and orbit the planet.

you had ten whole minutes to read my earlier post which refuted this exact point

[Viceroy63]

I would add that humans are the only creatures on the planet able to create works of art or have the potential to be more then what we are. No dolphin will ever create a spaceship and orbit the planet.

you had ten whole minutes to read my earlier post which refuted this exact point

With all the postings going on, I sometimes just read the last one and that's it. =)

[tzor]

I would add that humans are the only creatures on the planet able to create great works of art or have the potential to be more then what we are. For all the songs the whales do sing means only that they can hum a tune with the rest of us. No dolphin will ever create a spaceship and orbit the planet.

There is a general problem with aquatic creatures and technologies that involve electricity and fire.

Tool use is infrequent among animals but it does happen. He otter know


But wait, there's more!

[universalchiro]

I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.

Natural selection says primates evolved into hominids, that evolved into humans. But that humans shed their fur heading into the ice age, is unnatural. That no other animal evolved to shed their fur is unnatural. Humans have a unique ability to speak that has no parental descending evolutionary link, this is unnatural. That humans can't fertilize relative species, is unnatural.
We don't see dolphins building cars, we don't see elephants building houses, this may seem trite. But its a fact these animals have not progressed & advance in the way humans have. The advancement s of humans is exclusively unique: this is unnatural.

There is no reason humans should stand alone, in terms of it's nudity. Heading into an ice age. "If we were to subscribe 100% to the idea of survival of the fittest, it is illogical to think we are completely naked & we are losing all of our fur, that makes no sense. Because right after we lose our fur, we have to wear fur to keep warm. Without wearing furs, we would of died. The idea we shed our fur because we were stronger, makes no sense".
Giorgione A. Tsoukalos, Publisher, Legendary Times Magazine. Ancient Astronauts Theorist.

The enormous gap qualitatively & quantitatively of humans to hominids & humans, is to large to explain with natural selection. & to have only humans to have evolved mentally & other creatures that have been on earth millions of years longer to not have evolved, is unnatural. Natural processes we see today can not account for why thousands of species that have been on earth longer than humans, have not evolved mentally.

The rest of nature hasn't changed that much, why would humans changed so much more than the rest of nature: that is unnatural.

What is unaccounted for is going from apes, primates to flying in outer space. Humans stand alone in exclusive accelerated evolution from the rest of nature. This is unnatural.

Fox-P2. Is a gene found in our nucleotides. Scientists tell us us that that gene alone is responsible for language. This gene exist out of nowhere. No link from primates or with primates. This is unnatural.

All mankind can genetically be linked to one female in Africa. This is unnatural.

The double helical matrix of DNA of all life on earth rotates in the same direction. If life was based on random acts of natural selection, there should be a 50/50 distribution. This is unnatural.

The voice box of humans is to unique, to different from our closest relative the chimpanzee to come from them. Humans can communicate on such a deep extensive form that we alone exclusively evolved, is unnatural. We are too set apart from other life on earth.

Francis Crick, said that all life has the double helical structure rotating in the same direction in the cells, couldn't of happened by chance of natural selection. This has to be engineered.

The above are not my words. They are from other authors that are ancient astronaut theorist. The point is if evolutionist see for example the #4 , they would argue that 4 evolved from 1+1+1+1... but others such as non-christians that are astronaut theorist would say, it seems like 2x2. & Christians are saying 4x1...
The point being there are valid theories other than evolution, but your faith is so dogmatic, you won't even consider them. Even though evolution has noteworthy & proven holes.

One thing is for sure.... we all will know the truth soon enough.

[JohnAarson]

Probably a repost. But here it goes: clear evidence that God exists:

https://www.facebook.com/TheGoodLordAbove?fref=ts

[waauw]

I tend to believe in the existence of the man named Jesus, as documented by the scribe Josephus (I believe that was his name and occupation, though I could be wrong). And I tend to believe that he was a generally good man who traveled that part of the world prosetylizing, eventually becoming an enemy of some religious folks and some Romans, both of whom saw him as competition, and that they conspired to have him killed. I tend to think he may have been suffering from a mental condition (schitzophrenia or insanity of some sort) or that he was a very talented con man. But that's pretty much the extent of what I believe regarding his life.

I think he was real too, (though Josephus I believe only records that people believed in him, and wrote some time after the crucifixion, thus any speculation he made as to the reality of the figure central to the beliefs is not contemporary confirmation.) I certainly don't dispute that people believe in Jesus. The rest of your speculations on the nature of Jesus are somewhat in agreement with mine, but I was looking for proof from the people that talk about "fulfilled prophecies". And by this I mean independent proof, not something from their own holy book.

First of all, one needs to take Josephus with a grain of salt, because he had a number of credibility problems and a few chips on his shoulder. Since none of them were against Christians, we may let him slide on this one. Remember we are dealing with almost two thousand years BR (that's "Before Reuters") so your source of "News" back then is basically nonexistent.

Fulfilled prophecies is one of those strange things (hindsight being an "exact" science). It's odd how some of them actually require bad translations in order to succeed ("young woman" in Hebrew translated to "virgin" in Greek, for example).

On the other hand, modern "prophecies" are closer to being spot on, especially when they come out of the blue and seem really stupid at the time. Even then, one might be able to argue against them.
The revelation to three children in Portugal that Russia was going to become an atheist country in need of conversion.
The outbreak of WWII, revealed just after WWI
The assassination / near assassination of a pope
Are just starters

These modern prophecies are not that special:

• Ever since the start of the age of enlightenment there has been a trend of growing atheism...
• Forecasting that the Treaty of Versailles was gonna end badly was plausible. It's comparable to people forecasting an economic crisis. Additionaly you should keep in mind that when people are used to certain situations(like just having witnessed WWI), people will consider it as plausible future scenario's. It's called 'normalcy bias'.
• All throughout history, it has not been uncommon for people of high standing and influence to be targets for assassination.

Also you forget to add a list of all false prophets. There have been tons of people being wrong with their prophecies. It's just statistically probable that some of 'm will actually come true. Especially if you keep timeframes open.

[waauw]

The above are not my words. They are from other authors that are ancient astronaut theorist. The point is if evolutionist see for example the #4 , they would argue that 4 evolved from 1+1+1+1... but others such as non-christians that are astronaut theorist would say, it seems like 2x2. & Christians are saying 4x1...
The point being there are valid theories other than evolution, but your faith is so dogmatic, you won't even consider them. Even though evolution has noteworthy & proven holes.

One thing is for sure.... we all will know the truth soon enough.

Won't consider? I've looked at your evidences and those of your pals here(not all of 'm but quite a number), and they are insufficient, sometimes illogical or sometimes just plain wrong in my opinion. Or does me thinking differently about multiple subjects make me closed minded per sé?

FYI I believe in quite a number of the ancient astronaut theories

[Viceroy63]

Yes there is evidence.

No, and we showed you that in the thread dedicated to it... by the way, calling me a "non believer" is incorrect and extremely offensive. Try actually reading the Bible, instead of just reciting your favorite passages out of context.

Player; This is absolutely amazing! I am impressed with you. For the first time that I have been reading your posts, you actually made a point, without writing a 1000 page novel. Wow! =)

Perhaps we can really talk now? Exactly how is it offensive to call you or anyone for that matter, a non-believer? Either you believe that God Created you or you don't! Either you believe what the Bible says, or you don't! Could we talk about this perhaps? Without the novel reading. =)

I thought uchiro said that most differences are "non-salvational", apart from Jesus died for our sins, etc? You seemed to agree with him at the time , and that the 14 billion years you disagree on are a minor point.

I would say that statement is true.

If we go by the Bible, for example, The thief on the cross (there were 2 of em), One, was guaranteed salvation by the Lord Himself. He basically said to that Thief, "On this day, I promise you, that when I return to establish my kingdom, you will be there." Did the thief receive baptism? No. Yet some Christians would argue that you can not be save without Water Baptism because that is in the Holy Bible, and it is in the Bible and that is also true. But the answer lies in what will happen in that final judgement and not on what we understand or fail to understand in the here and now.

I can honestly understand why a person would accept the 6,000 year old universe or the Trinity Doctrine or any of the other pagan customs such as Christmas or Easter and call all of that "Christianity" when it is not. But that is not as important as it is, will that person reject or deny Jesus when push turns to shove. It's not about what we understand or fail to understand about the theory of evolution or Creation, but about the kind of person that we are, for that person that we are now is the very same person that will be revealed in that final judgment. No secret thing will be left in hiding and all will be reveal to the shame or glory of that person. If we can not accept Jesus now then how will we possibly accept him then? The Knee that drops to the Lord drops in total and complete submission, or not at all.

Then will we all come to know the truth about what really happened and who we really are. And that is what really matters. God can not be mocked and only those willing to serve and to obey God will receive the gift of eternal life and the true understanding that they may lack at this present time. But at the moment our eyes only need be focused on Jesus Christ and his teachings and to grow in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and as for all the rest, in it's right time, it will all come to us eventually. One way or another, just like the thief on the Cross will eventually come to be baptized in the final judgment because his heart is one of willingness even if he doesn't fully understand all of it yet. He will and he will comply and that is why Jesus could say to him, "You will be there!" (Not in those words actually).

So Yes; I agree that the only important issue for Christians is Christ the Lord and His teachings. And what he taught was, LOVE! The rest will be straitened out when we are in the Kingdom of God when Jesus returns. And if we are humble enough to accept it in the here and now, then we will also accept it in the there and then and be there too.

[tzor]

These modern prophecies are not that special:

• Ever since the start of the age of enlightenment there has been a trend of growing atheism...
• Forecasting that the Treaty of Versailles was gonna end badly was plausible. It's comparable to people forecasting an economic crisis. Additionaly you should keep in mind that when people are used to certain situations(like just having witnessed WWI), people will consider it as plausible future scenario's. It's called 'normalcy bias'.
• All throughout history, it has not been uncommon for people of high standing and influence to be targets for assassination.

Russia was considered at the time a stronghold of Orthodox Christianity, in fact it was trying to take the mantle of "Ecumenical Patriarchy" from Constantinople. So to claim it would soon be godless and needed prayers ASAP was not obvious at the time.

At the time WWI ended, WWI was considered the "war to end all wars." The League of Nations engaged in this fantasy for decades. So at the time, that was crazy talk.

Pope John Paul II always credited Mary as the reason he didn't die from the assassination attempt. His first pilgrimage after the attempt was to Lourdes.

[universalchiro]

I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.

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If each layer took 100,000 years or millions of years to form, Why are they uniformly laid without massive erosion mixing of the layers from rain? An alternate interpretation is that the layers were formed quickly within 1 year, from the Global flood of Genesis 7. Not only did water come down upon the earth, but water burst up out of the earth. Water filled with massive amounts of soil. And when the soil in the water settled, the soil would settle according to density and in layers...

Evolution is a religion, with it's believers steeped and indoctrinated in the faith.

[chang50]

So Yes; I agree that the only important issue for Christians is Christ the Lord and His teachings. And what he taught was, LOVE! The rest will be straitened out when we are in the Kingdom of God when Jesus returns. And if we are humble enough to accept it in the here and now, then we will also accept it in the there and then and be there too.[/quote]

Seems like the polar opposite of humility to me.It requires an arrogant fatuousness to believe that you,a mere partially evolved member of a mammalian species living on an insignificant rock, are sooo special in the vastness of the cosmos to know anything about such things.Humble my backside..

[Viceroy63]

So Yes; I agree that the only important issue for Christians is Christ the Lord and His teachings. And what he taught was, LOVE! The rest will be straitened out when we are in the Kingdom of God when Jesus returns. And if we are humble enough to accept it in the here and now, then we will also accept it in the there and then and be there too.

Seems like the polar opposite of humility to me.It requires an arrogant fatuousness to believe that you,a mere partially evolved member of a mammalian species living on an insignificant rock, are sooo special in the vastness of the cosmos to know anything about such things.Humble my backside..

I would not have known except that it were revealed to me. This is not special knowledge reveal to only just a few but to all who are willing to accept it. It is revealed knowledge that can only be received from a God through his inspire work of men, The Holy Bible. Otherwise you are quite correct; It would be very arrogant of me to assume that I could know the will or mind of God all on my own. This is also why faith is evidence based and not based on some inner desire or wishful thinking but because those who believe have come to see the evidence through the revealed word of God.

No one starts out life in humility! We all need to be humbled. Some more than others but if we are willing to be humbled then God will humble us. If we humble ourselves some then God won't have to humble us as much. It's not life that has a way of humbling a man, it's a man who is willing to be humbled by life who is humbled. Some are just too proud to be humbled by anything or anyone at all, and will be arrogant and proud right to the very end. And the way that we are now, in this life, will be the very same way we will be in the final judgement. This is revealed knowledge in God's word.

I know that I personally could use some more humility and accept the process that God will put me through and has put me through, past, present and future, for that purpose. But I also know exactly how arrogant and proud I once used to be. And I can Thank God that he will humble me no matter how much humiliation I may need to accomplish the task but he is willing. And I also, just like the Lord Jesus Christ, am willing to go through it and that's all it takes. To Obey God no matter what and to serve the Lord willingly and meekly.

That is the whole point to this life and for all eternity...

"He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"
-Micah 6:8"

[chang50]

So Yes; I agree that the only important issue for Christians is Christ the Lord and His teachings. And what he taught was, LOVE! The rest will be straitened out when we are in the Kingdom of God when Jesus returns. And if we are humble enough to accept it in the here and now, then we will also accept it in the there and then and be there too.

Seems like the polar opposite of humility to me.It requires an arrogant fatuousness to believe that you,a mere partially evolved member of a mammalian species living on an insignificant rock, are sooo special in the vastness of the cosmos to know anything about such things.Humble my backside..

I would not have known except that it were revealed to me. This is not special knowledge reveal to only just a few but to all who are willing to accept it. It is revealed knowledge that can only be received from a God through his inspire work of men, The Holy Bible. Otherwise you are quite correct; It would be very arrogant of me to assume that I could know the will or mind of God all on my own. This is also why faith is evidence based and not based on some inner desire or wishful thinking but because those who believe have come to see the evidence through the revealed word of God.

No one starts out life in humility! We all need to be humbled. Some more than others but if we are willing to be humbled then God will humble us. If we humble ourselves some then God won't have to humble us as much. It's not life that has a way of humbling a man, it's a man who is willing to be humbled by life who is humbled. Some are just too proud to be humbled by anything or anyone at all, and will be arrogant and proud right to the very end. And the way that we are now, in this life, will be the very same way we will be in the final judgement. This is revealed knowledge in God's word.

I know that I personally could use some more humility and accept the process that God will put me through and has put me through, past, present and future, for that purpose. But I also know exactly how arrogant and proud I once used to be. And I can Thank God that he will humble me no matter how much humiliation I may need to accomplish the task but he is willing. And I also, just like the Lord Jesus Christ, am willing to go through it and that's all it takes. To Obey God no matter what and to serve the Lord willingly and meekly.

That is the whole point to this life and for all eternity...

"He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"
-Micah 6:8"

My whole point is you have to think you are special enough for it to be revealed to you at all!A truly humble position would be one that admits it just doesn't know the point of this life.if indeed there is one.

[waauw]

Russia was considered at the time a stronghold of Orthodox Christianity, in fact it was trying to take the mantle of "Ecumenical Patriarchy" from Constantinople. So to claim it would soon be godless and needed prayers ASAP was not obvious at the time.

And even though that mayb be true, even in Russia changes started to occur among the populus ever since the the age of enlightenment and eventually with the theories of Karl Marx it intesified. This is what eventually led to the fall of the Tzar's. Keep in mind that all of europe was severely influenced by the french revolution.

At the time WWI ended, WWI was considered the "war to end all wars." The League of Nations engaged in this fantasy for decades. So at the time, that was crazy talk.

It might have been crazy talk at the time, but controversy has occured in every era. Look at recent history. Every single time someone predicts an enormous collapse of the stock market when it's in full bullmarket, those people get mocked at by the mainstream. Even now when people predict an armageddon of the financial system, it's considered controversial. So to get back to my point. It's not that surprising that some people predicted that this would end bad.

Pope John Paul II always credited Mary as the reason he didn't die from the assassination attempt. His first pilgrimage after the attempt was to Lourdes.

lol as if that's gonna mean something to me. This doesn't say anything about assassination attempts on prominent persons.

[BigBallinStalin]

We don't see dolphins building cars, we don't see elephants building houses, this may seem trite. But its a fact these animals have not progressed & advance in the way humans have. The advancement s of humans is exclusively unique: this is unnatural.

Cuz humans can exchange ideas. Ideas and tools can move beyond an immediate family or tribe. The gains of trade are simple yet not readily understood.

Calling the advancement of humans "exclusively unique" and "unnatural" is nonsensical. No, your definition of "natural" won't be amusing nor necessary.

[BigBallinStalin]

I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.

Natural selection says primates evolved into hominids, that evolved into humans. But that humans shed their fur heading into the ice age, is unnatural. That no other animal evolved to shed their fur is unnatural. Humans have a unique ability to speak that has no parental descending evolutionary link, this is unnatural. That humans can't fertilize relative species, is unnatural.
We don't see dolphins building cars, we don't see elephants building houses, this may seem trite. But its a fact these animals have not progressed & advance in the way humans have. The advancement s of humans is exclusively unique: this is unnatural.

There is no reason humans should stand alone, in terms of it's nudity. Heading into an ice age. "If we were to subscribe 100% to the idea of survival of the fittest, it is illogical to think we are completely naked & we are losing all of our fur, that makes no sense. Because right after we lose our fur, we have to wear fur to keep warm. Without wearing furs, we would of died. The idea we shed our fur because we were stronger, makes no sense".
Giorgione A. Tsoukalos, Publisher, Legendary Times Magazine. Ancient Astronauts Theorist.

The enormous gap qualitatively & quantitatively of humans to hominids & humans, is to large to explain with natural selection. & to have only humans to have evolved mentally & other creatures that have been on earth millions of years longer to not have evolved, is unnatural. Natural processes we see today can not account for why thousands of species that have been on earth longer than humans, have not evolved mentally.

The rest of nature hasn't changed that much, why would humans changed so much more than the rest of nature: that is unnatural.

What is unaccounted for is going from apes, primates to flying in outer space. Humans stand alone in exclusive accelerated evolution from the rest of nature. This is unnatural.

Fox-P2. Is a gene found in our nucleotides. Scientists tell us us that that gene alone is responsible for language. This gene exist out of nowhere. No link from primates or with primates. This is unnatural.

All mankind can genetically be linked to one female in Africa. This is unnatural.

The double helical matrix of DNA of all life on earth rotates in the same direction. If life was based on random acts of natural selection, there should be a 50/50 distribution. This is unnatural.

The voice box of humans is to unique, to different from our closest relative the chimpanzee to come from them. Humans can communicate on such a deep extensive form that we alone exclusively evolved, is unnatural. We are too set apart from other life on earth.

Francis Crick, said that all life has the double helical structure rotating in the same direction in the cells, couldn't of happened by chance of natural selection. This has to be engineered.

The above are not my words. They are from other authors that are ancient astronaut theorist. The point is if evolutionist see for example the #4 , they would argue that 4 evolved from 1+1+1+1... but others such as non-christians that are astronaut theorist would say, it seems like 2x2. & Christians are saying 4x1...
The point being there are valid theories other than evolution, but your faith is so dogmatic, you won't even consider them. Even though evolution has noteworthy & proven holes.

One thing is for sure.... we all will know the truth soon enough.

WHOA, THAT DUDE SOUNDS GROUND-BREAKING.

Surely, he'd get published in a respectable scientific journal, right? Right?

(inb4 cairo: the system has us down, man! It's all biased! No science!")

[universalchiro]

I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.

Evolution was spawned out of racism. The origins of evolution owe their gratitude to men who felt they had evolved further than other non-white races. And that these non-white species of men, who had not evolved as far away from monkeys as the white man, would be justifiably exterminated, via natural selection & survival of the fittest.

It was through Christian values that all mankind are created equal, created in the image of God, that slavery was ended.

Evolution is based from wicked men who thought they were superior to less evolved men. If you search you will find your beliefs in evolution are merely carrying evil men's hatred of other races & love of self onwards.

[AndyDufresne]

Evolution is based from wicked men

--Andy

[waauw]

I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.

Evolution was spawned out of racism. The origins of evolution owe their gratitude to men who felt they had evolved further than other non-white races. And that these non-white species of men, who had not evolved as far away from monkeys as the white man, would be justifiably exterminated, via natural selection & survival of the fittest.

It was through Christian values that all mankind are created equal, created in the image of God, that slavery was ended.

Evolution is based from wicked men who thought they were superior to less evolved men. If you search you will find your beliefs in evolution are merely carrying evil men's hatred of other races & love of self onwards.

Right cuz the origins describe whether something is true or not...
By your definition all satellites should be shot out of the sky as they were initially developed in the space race with the purpose of war.

Also slavery didn't end because of christianism, it ended because of the rise of liberalism, socialism, republicanism, democracy and industrial production. Yes there were some christian organizations protesting against it, but there were also christians pro slavery. The southern US states for example were christians too!

Stop acting as if evolution is the cause of misery on earth.

[Viceroy63]

So Yes; I agree that the only important issue for Christians is Christ the Lord and His teachings. And what he taught was, LOVE! The rest will be straitened out when we are in the Kingdom of God when Jesus returns. And if we are humble enough to accept it in the here and now, then we will also accept it in the there and then and be there too.

Seems like the polar opposite of humility to me.It requires an arrogant fatuousness to believe that you,a mere partially evolved member of a mammalian species living on an insignificant rock, are sooo special in the vastness of the cosmos to know anything about such things.Humble my backside..

I would not have known except that it were revealed to me. This is not special knowledge reveal to only just a few but to all who are willing to accept it. It is revealed knowledge that can only be received from a God through his inspire work of men, The Holy Bible. Otherwise you are quite correct; It would be very arrogant of me to assume that I could know the will or mind of God all on my own. This is also why faith is evidence based and not based on some inner desire or wishful thinking but because those who believe have come to see the evidence through the revealed word of God.

No one starts out life in humility! We all need to be humbled. Some more than others but if we are willing to be humbled then God will humble us. If we humble ourselves some then God won't have to humble us as much. It's not life that has a way of humbling a man, it's a man who is willing to be humbled by life who is humbled. Some are just too proud to be humbled by anything or anyone at all, and will be arrogant and proud right to the very end. And the way that we are now, in this life, will be the very same way we will be in the final judgement. This is revealed knowledge in God's word.

I know that I personally could use some more humility and accept the process that God will put me through and has put me through, past, present and future, for that purpose. But I also know exactly how arrogant and proud I once used to be. And I can Thank God that he will humble me no matter how much humiliation I may need to accomplish the task but he is willing. And I also, just like the Lord Jesus Christ, am willing to go through it and that's all it takes. To Obey God no matter what and to serve the Lord willingly and meekly.

That is the whole point to this life and for all eternity...

"He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"
-Micah 6:8"

My whole point is you have to think you are special enough for it to be revealed to you at all!A truly humble position would be one that admits it just doesn't know the point of this life.if indeed there is one.

Well, from the human point of view, We are not special. Ironically, you or any atheist, are not the first to have that thought in mind. Christians and generally the people of God have had that same thought that you are expressing that we must think of ourselves as special that a God would even bother with us at all. It would be like men having special consideration with an ant hill. Biblical men have been asking the same question for thousands of years...

"What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?"'
-Psalm 8:4

Several times in the Bible this question is posed in regards to whether man is special or not. If not then why does God bother to reveal anything to us at all. But the fact that this question is raised proves that there is evidence in the Bible and in the life of those who raised that question, of God's intervention in human affairs. So it is not a question of humility to express the truth but it would be foolish to say I just don't know when the fact is that God has revealed his plans and thoughts to us and we do know because it is all written down for us to read and to examine. If we want to that is.

We are not just some ant hill that happened to be that God is being careful not to step on but rather the work of His hands. If We were created and created in the image of God, then it would have to be for a special purpose; To be in the God Family if you will. We can equate this to an adoption process. You want to adopt so you spent time with the Children until eventually a bond is formed with one of the children and eventually that is the child that you end up adopting. Only God has no set limit and is in fact able to adopt the entire human family but not if a bond is not first formed.

In a certain sense there really is nothing special about humanity except that which God creates in us in the process. We can not do any of the work that God is doing. Only God can create us in His image, but we can choose not to go through the process if we find it too humiliating or difficult to accept. God only does the work, we choose to go through the process. The only truly special feature about us is the bond created between Father and Son and it is the Father who initiates and literally creates that Bond. The child is the one who chooses to accept it or not.

So at some point we shall be fully adopted (or not) and become "gods" just like the small Santos child was adopted and became a "Smith" because the family that adopted him was Smith. Men are created in the image of God to be in the God family and that is special. This special adoption has not been offered to any other animal on the face of the planet. Not even the angels in heaven are offered this special adoption. Only man.

This is special revelation found in the pages of the Holy Bible and available to all who would spend time reading and learning about it. And it is in no way arrogance to claim to know this special knowledge because God does want us to know and does in fact reveal this to us through his word, that he is offering an adoption to all who would want it. It's that simple. All we have to do is to make the choice.

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:"
-John 1:12

[AndyDufresne]

Stop acting as if evolution is the cause of misery on earth.

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--Andy

[universalchiro]

I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.

Here is the complete list of benefits of evolution to mankind: [crickets]…

The Bible has benefitted mankind with civil laws, moral laws, hygiene requirements, structure of government, relationship secrets: such as between husband & wife, children to parents, employees to employer and vice versa. Sexual parameters of how to enjoy sex and avoid the consequences of improper use of sex. Financial benefits: how to be wealthy, how to invest, how to be the lender & not the borrower, what to do when bribes come your way. How to avoid greed & the result of greed.
The Bible teaches the rolls in marriage for harmony. How to handle when insults come your way, what to do when someone hits you, instructs on taxes, diligence of working hard. Teaches how to be wise able to be skilled at living. Teaches how to have peace that surpasses all understanding, even though trials abound. The Bible teaches how to get knowledge, prudence, discretion.
The Bible teaches that all mankind was created in the image of God & thereby equal to worship God and equal among other humans. Man & woman are both equal in the eyes of God.
The Bible teaches why mankind rejects God & foretells of coming events .... when Israel becomes a nation & Jerusalem is Israel's ... the Bible describes coming events that are at the door. When? No one knows. But Jesus, the Messiah, the Son of God, said when these things start to occur the end is near, then He likened it to a harvest, when the leaves bud, you know the harvest is near...

Don't be mistaken; EVERY knee will bow to Jesus. Some in adoration, most in humiliation.

[tzor]

Here is the complete list of benefits of evolution to mankind: [crickets]…

A complete list of the benefits of evolution could fill volumes of books.
There are so many things that are beneficial that would not have happened if we just swam around in the swamp as a simple multi-celled creature.

Like developing lungs ...
And a diaphragm ...
And combining our air and digestive passages so we can pass air through our mouths ...
And eyes ...
And opposable thumbs ...

Just these alone allows us to sing the praises of God while holding and reading a hymnal.
Do you think Plankton can do that? No he cannot!

[jonesthecurl]

So, uchiro:
Is tzor saved?
He believes in your whole "salvational" thing - Jesus died for us, was the son of god, whatever.
But he believes your position on the creation to be seriously flawed.
Like Viceroy does.

[Woodruff]

Here is the complete list of benefits of evolution to mankind:

We exist as we are. That seems fairly beneficial to me.

Don't be mistaken; EVERY knee will bow to Jesus. Some in adoration, most in humiliation.

Not bloody likely.