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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:39 pm

hahaha3hahaha wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:Also, let's use reductio ad absurdum reasoning: a good portion--perhaps all--of the more complex elements come from supernovae. Our building blocks of life come from these big stars, thus human minds come from stars, which are non-rational, ergo human minds are non-rational.

I don't see how that enforces your point. If my mind came from the non-rational, came from a star, I certainly wouldn't trust it to give me the truth on reality. You're really just giving my point a stronger basis.


Wow. Yeah... you're claiming that a reductio ad absurdum supports your point. You do realize how absurd that sounds, right?

It should be clear from any fan of logic, that you're not making sense, but here's one last try:

There's a big difference between the elements of the periodic table and your brain.

There's a big difference between pondscum and your brain.

    Correction: replace 'your' with 'average human'--if you wish to nitpick about it.

If you don't understand these big differences, then it's futile to argue with you because you don't understand what you're talking about.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:46 pm

"if the formation of our minds originally stem back to the non-rational and the lifeless, how can you trust your mind to tell you the truth about reality? "

And all I've been saying is that this line of reasoning is incorrect. The reductio ad absurdum should show you how absurd your position is. The reductio reinforces the point about distinguishing between pondscum and human brains and elements and human brains which should clarify that the rationalizing properties of brain matter are distinct from the non-rationalizing properties of elements and bacteria. It should be clear that the 'consciousness' (or rather higher intellectual capabilities) of humans are very much different from the 'intellectual' capabilities of elements and bacteria. In short, your question doesn't make sense, and it doesn't follow that 'pondscum/element-derived human minds (whatever that means)' would lead to lesser 'trust in one's mind to reveal reality'.


Even if we accept everything within your question, it doesn't resolve further implications. As I've already said very briefly: If all humans have their minds deriving from God (whatever that means), then it still isn't clear that we can 'trust' our minds to reveal 100% reality. People's interpretations of the Bible would still differ. The absolutely true interpretation remains impossible. The absolutely true interpretation toward Reality remains (perhaps forever) ambiguous. You're back to concluding with agnosticism, deism (some superior being/creator/'god'--definition unknown--is out there), or agnostic atheism (deism? maybe. Theism?--i.e. particular Gods, no/highly unlikely given numerous reasons already mentioned).
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby chang50 on Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:55 pm

hahaha3hahaha wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
hahaha3hahaha wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:Also, let's use reductio ad absurdum reasoning: a good portion--perhaps all--of the more complex elements come from supernovae. Our building blocks of life come from these big stars, thus human minds come from stars, which are non-rational, ergo human minds are non-rational.

I don't see how that enforces your point. If my mind came from the non-rational, came from a star, I certainly wouldn't trust it to give me the truth on reality. You're really just giving my point a stronger basis.


Wow. Yeah... you're claiming that a reductio ad absurdum supports your point. You do realize how absurd that sounds, right?

It should be clear from any fan of logic, that you're not making sense, but here's one last try:

There's a big difference between the elements of the periodic table and your brain.

There's a big difference between pondscum and your brain.

    Correction: replace 'your' with 'average human'--if you wish to nitpick about it.

If you don't understand these big differences, then it's futile to argue with you because you don't understand what you're talking about.


You keep throwing around reductio ad absurdum... I never claimed that God must exist because the implications of our mind coming from space dust, pond scum, apes, whatever you want to believe. All I asked was a simple question: if the formation of our minds originally stem back to the non-rational and the lifeless, how can you trust your mind to tell you the truth about reality?
Dance around the question as much as you want, it's there to be answered when you are finished trying to belittle people as intellectually inferior to you.


I don't have a problem conceding our brains might be unable to tell us the truth about reality.What you have yet to establish is that a god-given brain,whatever that means,would necessarily do better.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby chang50 on Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:27 pm

hahaha3hahaha wrote:Alright there's some apparent things we need to clarify:
@BBS: According to evolution we can trace all life forms back to billions of years ago to a time when life did not exist, nor did any rational being. So how can you say my line of thinking is incorrect to posit that, according to evolution, we (including our minds) originate from non-life and from non-rationality (regarding of the billion year process in between). You throw out this notion without giving a substitute.
@Chang+BBS: I haven't stated, at any time, that a mind created by God is perfect and/or has the ability to flawlessly comprehend reality. All I have said is that a created mind has more of a chance at finding out absolute truths compared to a mind that literally, originated from particles, energy and billions of years.


But you do think it would be better,which is all I quoted you on,yet this is not axiomatic,you need to show why.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:01 pm

hahaha3hahaha wrote:Alright there's some apparent things we need to clarify:
@BBS: According to evolution we can trace all life forms back to billions of years ago to a time when life did not exist, nor did any rational being. So how can you say my line of thinking is incorrect to posit that, according to evolution, we (including our minds) originate from non-life and from non-rationality (regarding of the billion year process in between). You throw out this notion without giving a substitute.
@Chang+BBS: I haven't stated, at any time, that a mind created by God is perfect and/or has the ability to flawlessly comprehend reality. All I have said is that a created mind has more of a chance at finding out absolute truths compared to a mind that literally, originated from particles, energy and billions of years.


To clarify: Evolution is a theory about organic matter; it's not about inorganic matter--as in rocks. IIRC, RNA probably fits into evolutionary theory, but if not, then it fits into some larger theory within biology. When claims about inorganic matter are made, then you should rely on theories of astronomy/astrophysics, thus going beyond evolutionary theory.

It doesn't follow that 'life did not exist' because life could have existed else where (the universe is pretty big). All things on Earth could have been the by-product of some 'alien' RNA molecules on an asteroid which collided with Earth . It's just a hypothesis, and there are many of them. Some are tested with the scientific method; others are not (e.g. the religious). Some cannot even be validated/tested, hence agnosticism (the soundness is unknown).

Rational beings could have existed elsewhere in the universe; for all we know, we could be some experiment, or we could have originated from the discarded happy meal of some alien (who knows).

Hopefully, that clears up your misunderstanding on evolutionary theory. Many people don't like these kinds of explanations, so instead of saying, "I don't know/here's the limits of what we know", they'll say, "God did it; he must have!"
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(1) You can't even test your 'god-derived brains' are more likely to reveal Reality than 'nongod-derived brains' claim. There's no standard of comparison, so let's tear apart the claim itself:

(A)
Even if we accept everything within your question, it doesn't resolve further implications. Again, if all humans have their minds deriving from God, then people's interpretations of the Bible and of 'god' would still differ. The absolutely true interpretation remains impossible. The absolutely true interpretation toward Reality remains (perhaps forever) ambiguous. You're back to concluding with agnosticism, deism (some superior being/creator/'god'--definition unknown--is out there), or agnostic atheism (deism? maybe. Theism?--i.e. particular Gods, no/highly unlikely given numerous reasons already mentioned).

(B)
(1) sounds like nonsense because all you can do is rely on circular reasoning whenever you appeal to your Bible to show that your position is 'true'--or at the very least should be considered. It shouldn't be considered because it's based on fallacious reasoning (circular reasoning). Therefore, it gets discarded. Ultimately, we're again back to deism, agnosticism, or atheist agnosticism.

If you were a deist who talked about 'god'-derived brains, then I'd say, we don't know (and neither should the deist) because the soundness cannot be determined. The cause could've been alien happy meal garbage too. Who knows, but here we are with our brains, so let's move on to more practical matters in this world.

Since you're a theist, I'll simply point out the problems (and limits) of your position, but in order to become a deist you have to drop a strict definition of god (e.g .the judeo-christian definition); otherwise, you run into all the problems of theists. That's pretty much what you're dealing with at the moment.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:03 am

At heart your argument appears to be" I'd like my mind to be made by a god, not the result of a cosmic accident. Therefore it is so.
Reminds me of the "Divine right of kings" - I'd rather the king be appointed by a god than by some random outcome of battles and genetics, therefore it is so.

Both arguments are equally flawed, and for the same reason.

Just beacause you want it to be so doesn't make it so.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:48 am

hahaha3hahaha wrote:@ Chang. Yes, fair enough, as BBS said above there really is no test for comparison. This is an opinion of mine, I cannot give you empirical evidence that a mind created by God has a betetr grip on reality than a mind stemmed from non-life and non-rationality, a mind that's really, a cosmic accident.
The way I see it is this: if I want a plate of nachos, I'm gonna consult a chef about it, not get some matter and energy and hope that in 13 billion years the end product will be just as good.
@ BBS. Where did these aliens come from? You are over complicating a very, very, very simple premise (that Chang actually got his head around and conceded about 4 posts ago), so I can only assume you are just playing games. I will give it to you VERY plain and simply, once more.
Human life is not eternal, human life has a beginning. Evolution traces that beginning to billions of years ago, when life first began- starting with single-celled bacteria, then over a slow process advancing in species til we eventually end up with homo sapiens. Even if the first life form on earth was planted there as an experiment by aliens, as is your premise, the alien life was not eternal, it also had a beginning (unless you're suddenly telling me you are actually a theist?).


There are limits for striving toward truth. Some hypotheses are better than others in explaining things. Some are entirely useless (e.g. religious texts)--in this context. Sometimes, the soundness of hypotheses can not yet be determined. Instead of dealing with that, you'll take your leaps of faith. This is problematic because it doesn't generate new knowledge. It fails to push us toward truth, and instead promotes stagnation.

My position doesn't solely rest on the aliens because it is only an example of a possible explanation, so the remainder of your above response becomes irrelevant. Rearranging your position to then discuss First Life--beyond the humans--makes your Bible irrelevant (since it deals with humans; not First Life), so are you rejecting your Bible to hold your newly arranged position? That's troublesome. (My point here is to point out the limits of theology, i.e. knowledge derived from holy books; in short, it's oftentimes inapplicable in determining the soundness of various hypotheses. It can't even consistently adhere to the tools of science and philosophy--e.g. logic, without making itself irrelevant).


hahaha3hahaha wrote: So basically when we deduce all life back to it's starting point, it's beginning, if there is no God, then that life came from non-life, and it came from non-rationality. there is no amount of scientific jargon that you can cough up to dance around this. It's very simple.


I've already addressed this, so we're still waiting for you to develop something new. If you're having difficulty understanding the 'scientific jargon', then ask.


(A)
Even if we accept everything within your question, it doesn't resolve further implications. Again, if all humans have their minds deriving from God, then people's interpretations of the Bible and of 'god' would still differ. The absolutely true interpretation remains impossible. The absolutely true interpretation toward Reality remains (perhaps forever) ambiguous. You're back to concluding with agnosticism, deism (some superior being/creator/'god'--definition unknown--is out there), or agnostic atheism (deism? maybe. Theism?--i.e. particular Gods, no/highly unlikely given numerous reasons already mentioned).

---note: Theists cannot accept this if they sincerely believe that faith reveals truth---from each of their particularly, special books, of course.

(B)
(1) sounds like nonsense because all you can do is rely on circular reasoning whenever you appeal to your Bible to show that your position is 'true'--or at the very least should be considered. It shouldn't be considered because it's based on fallacious reasoning (circular reasoning). Therefore, it gets discarded. Ultimately, we're again back to deism, agnosticism, or atheist agnosticism.

---note: Theists can't get around this problem.

If you were a deist who talked about 'god'-derived brains, then I'd say, we don't know (and neither should the deist) because the soundness cannot be determined. The cause could've been alien happy meal garbage too. Who knows, but here we are with our brains, so let's move on to more practical matters in this world.

Since you're a theist, I'll simply point out the problems (and limits) of your position, but in order to become a deist you have to drop a strict definition of god (e.g .the judeo-christian definition); otherwise, you run into all the problems of theists. That's pretty much what you're still dealing with at the moment.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby mrswdk on Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:26 am

Which kinds of people were made in god's image? Did he make black men first?
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:10 am

No, it's a good question: what color was Adam? What color were the small number of people on Noah's boat? Why aren't we all that color now?
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:50 am

hahaha3hahaha wrote:Alright BBS, it is clear you are trolling and just playing games. We are finished here. When you are prepared to stop attempting to belittle an opinion that I have not even enforced, and actually tackle the question I have presented to you in the simplest of fashions, then inbox me. You may have a great vocab, but when it comes to the plainest of english you seem unable to get a grip.


I already dealt with your question; you refuse to update. That's not surprising.

If you can't understand the biggest words I used: 'consistently, hypotheses, etc.', then I'd be surprised. Use a dictionary?

I don't think you're willing to read, and you've definitely proven yourself to be unwilling to answer questions, so good luck dealing with your constraints.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby Frigidus on Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:25 am

jonesthecurl wrote:No, it's a good question: what color was Adam? What color were the small number of people on Noah's boat? Why aren't we all that color now?


Doesn't have to do with God cursing the Canaanites or something? Maybe they came up with a new explanation that comes off as less racist.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:33 pm

Might be confused, but I thought that was Mormons who thought that.
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Postby 2dimes on Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:45 pm

I don't know if I want to get into this yet I can't avoid writing something.

I would not use the word "thought" there. I would use "taught."

In the past brown guys could not hold the priesthood because they were considered the wretched seed of Cain. That has been reversed because the prophet received revelation.

I actually think that God marking Cain and his descendants is a plausible explanation for a second race. Why is there a third though? Also how did they all make it past the Flood?
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Postby universalchiro on Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:49 pm

2dimes wrote:I don't know if I want to get into this yet I can't avoid writing something.

I would not use the word "thought" there. I would use "taught."

In the past brown guys could not hold the priesthood because they were considered the wretched seed of Cain. That has been reversed because the prophet received revelation.

I actually think that God marking Cain and his descendants is a plausible explanation for a second race. Why is there a third though? Also how did they all make it past the Flood?

Mormons use to teach black people came from the mark placed on Cain. They have recanted this teaching.
Whether this was a physical mark or a spiritual mark is not known. For in Revelation, it is revealed that all believers have a mark on their foreheads, sealed from God and therefore, this mark is not visible, but spiritual.
Therefore, it's possible that Cain's mark was also spiritual. Unknown.
But what we do know is that all races came from the Tower of Babel after the flood of Genesis 7. the Grandson of Noah, Nimrod, built a Tower to reach Heaven. So God confused their languages and scattered them around the earth. From this event, came the different races and languages.
With the advent of the flood, there was a bottleneck of the human race. Noah, his wife, and 3 sons and their wives. Deep theology is that the offspring of Cain, lived on in one of the wives of Noah's sons. For Judas Iscariot is said to be a son of Perdition, an heir of Satan himself. So potentially in Genesis 6 when the fallen angels had children with the daughters of men, there spawned the seed of Satan himself that still exist today. and as the heir of God from Adam Abraham, to King David, to Jesus stayed pure through the flood, so too did the seed of Satan. For there will come a final heir of Satan's called the Son of Perdition that leads into the fulfilling of Revelation.

mankind is equal, there is no superior race. That is only in the Natural Selection doctrine of survival of the fittest that Hitler and countless evil people have tried to implement.

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As far as the topic of this thread, a fool doesn't know he is a fool. But continues on his merry way blindly walking in the dark. So how can a non-believer, void of the Love, Joy and light of God dwelling in their soul possibly know that they lack purpose and therefore, lack a real joy, Love and light of life. A non-believer in God will argue that they are Joyful and not sad, and they may appear to be so on the outside, but this is a spiritual condition and can only be healed from the workings of God to remove the blinders of self love and pride.

So any arguing with a non-believer is chasing after the wind. Best to just share the gospel with them and pray for them. My pray is that those non-believers in this thread, be wholly changed of the heart and begin a life of purpose, Knowing that God loves them so much, that He sent His only Son to pay in full, for all their sins. Confess their sins and believe that Jesus is the Christ the Messiah that died, buried and rose from the grave 3 days later and you will receive eternal life. and receive a purpose for living.
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Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:50 pm

2dimes wrote:I don't know if I want to get into this yet I can't avoid writing something.

I would not use the word "thought" there. I would use "taught."

In the past brown guys could not hold the priesthood because they were considered the wretched seed of Cain. That has been reversed because the prophet received revelation.

I actually think that God marking Cain and his descendants is a plausible explanation for a second race. Why is there a third though? Also how did they all make it past the Flood?



Well, by 'Noah' they meant 'lotsa Noahs' and by 'Ark' they meant 'lotsa Arks'.
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Postby chang50 on Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:05 pm

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As far as the topic of this thread, a fool doesn't know he is a fool. But continues on his merry way blindly walking in the dark. So how can a non-believer, void of the Love, Joy and light of God dwelling in their soul possibly know that they lack purpose and therefore, lack a real joy, Love and light of life. A non-believer in God will argue that they are Joyful and not sad, and they may appear to be so on the outside, but this is a spiritual condition and can only be healed from the workings of God to remove the blinders of self love and pride.

So any arguing with a non-believer is chasing after the wind. Best to just share the gospel with them and pray for them. My pray is that those non-believers in this thread, be wholly changed of the heart and begin a life of purpose, Knowing that God loves them so much, that He sent His only Son to pay in full, for all their sins. Confess their sins and believe that Jesus is the Christ the Messiah that died, buried and rose from the grave 3 days later and you will receive eternal life. and receive a purpose for living.[/quote]

Have you any clue just how condescending this is?How dare you assume to know what is best for non-believers?Please,under no circumstances pray for me,and I won't think for you.Even if everything you believe were true I would still rather rot in hell than acquiesce to such patronising attitudes..
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Postby 2dimes on Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:05 pm

Huh. So did that spiel give you an answer to the OP Chang? :P

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2dimes wrote:I actually think that God marking Cain and his descendants is a plausible explanation for a second race. Why is there a third though? Also how did they all make it past the Flood?



Well, by 'Noah' they meant 'lotsa Noahs' and by 'Ark' they meant 'lotsa Arks'.


I know absolutely that I don't want to respond here because I'm about to agree with Playa5150.

It's certainly possible the flood was an isolated thing that only wiped out the people around Noah whilst the caaninites or at least some portion of them were relaxing in Africa on high ground or something.

This also would explain to me how Noah didn't have to get all sneaky and wipe out the dinosaurs. They just caused the ice age driving around in huge cars belching out carbon dioxide. Ignoring goreasaurus.
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Re: Re:

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:11 pm

universalchiro wrote:But what we do know is that all races came from the Tower of Babel after the flood of Genesis 7. the Grandson of Noah, Nimrod, built a Tower to reach Heaven. So God confused their languages and scattered them around the earth. From this event, came the different races and languages.



So let me get this right ... speaking a different language makes you a different race?
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Postby chang50 on Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:14 pm

[quote="2dimes"]Huh. So did that spiel give you an answer to the OP Chang? :P


I'll admit it does boil my piss when I read patronising condescension,always has..time for some fresh air.
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