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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:49 pm

Lootifer, if you do not wish to claim responsibility for your neurons, then I wish you the best of luck.


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Lootifer: Look, Boss. It's not my fault; it's my neurons' fault.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:52 pm

_sabotage_ wrote:Many older skulls are found with a common anomaly to modern skulls: they have a thickened brow.

Note: the brow continues to grow with age in modern humans.

Genesis 5:23
Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years.

Now that I have irrefutably proven the existence of God, I hope that his light may shine through you as a beacon to our generation.


So goddists have thick skulls? No surprise there. mate.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby universalchiro on Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:13 am

_sabotage_ wrote:Many older skulls are found with a common anomaly to modern skulls: they have a thickened brow.

Note: the brow continues to grow with age in modern humans.

Genesis 5:23
Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years.

Now that I have irrefutably proven the existence of God, I hope that his light may shine through you as a beacon to our generation.

Valid point.
I forgot that prior to the flood, oxygen levels were 50% higher than today's current values. Life thrives in an hyperoxia environment. Therefore, it's plausible that secondary growth sites may have had a continued production of Somatostatin and Somatotropin.
If the hypothesis is correct, one would expect to find fossils that corroborate hypertrophy of the secondary growth characteristics. But so many fossils have been fabricated, that it's becoming hard to tell what is authentic these days.

Just some of the falsified fossils in an attempt to establish a link from man to primates include: Java man, Lucy, Piltdown man, Nebraska Man, Neanderthal man
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby chang50 on Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:26 am

universalchiro wrote:
_sabotage_ wrote:Many older skulls are found with a common anomaly to modern skulls: they have a thickened brow.

Note: the brow continues to grow with age in modern humans.

Genesis 5:23
Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years.

Now that I have irrefutably proven the existence of God, I hope that his light may shine through you as a beacon to our generation.

Valid point.
I forgot that prior to the flood, oxygen levels were 50% higher than today's current values. Life thrives in an hyperoxia environment. Therefore, it's plausible that secondary growth sites may have had a continued production of Somatostatin and Somatotropin.
If the hypothesis is correct, one would expect to find fossils that corroborate hypertrophy of the secondary growth characteristics. But so many fossils have been fabricated, that it's becoming hard to tell what is authentic these days.

Just some of the falsified fossils in an attempt to establish a link from man to primates include: Java man, Lucy, Piltdown man, Nebraska Man, Neanderthal man


Man IS a primate........
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby chang50 on Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:26 am

universalchiro wrote:
_sabotage_ wrote:Many older skulls are found with a common anomaly to modern skulls: they have a thickened brow.

Note: the brow continues to grow with age in modern humans.

Genesis 5:23
Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years.

Now that I have irrefutably proven the existence of God, I hope that his light may shine through you as a beacon to our generation.

Valid point.
I forgot that prior to the flood, oxygen levels were 50% higher than today's current values. Life thrives in an hyperoxia environment. Therefore, it's plausible that secondary growth sites may have had a continued production of Somatostatin and Somatotropin.
If the hypothesis is correct, one would expect to find fossils that corroborate hypertrophy of the secondary growth characteristics. But so many fossils have been fabricated, that it's becoming hard to tell what is authentic these days.

Just some of the falsified fossils in an attempt to establish a link from man to primates include: Java man, Lucy, Piltdown man, Nebraska Man, Neanderthal man


Man IS a primate........even you can't dispute that surely?
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby _sabotage_ on Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:02 am

Dispute? Oh we can dispute. We will dispute, although some may dispute this.

Seek and you will find. The facts proving the non-existence of god, such as jonesthecurl's subtle attempt to hook peeps in with varying skull shapes through time and space was clever, but not as elucidating or conclusive as he probably hoped. Those same facts can be argued to the contrary, that they indeed prove the existence of god.

Oh aren't we all so good at arguing; at stating points we may not even agree with, for the devil's sake? Our brightest intellectuals are only sure of their own existence due to their pets and yet we are all so happy to state from whence we came. Which intellectual? I would like to shake them down, or stir them up or ignore them at my convenience. Oh fallacy! Define bright and intellectual and pet and the prepositions in your proposition.

As I have contended in the past, put forth, argued, held to, and suggested is that the likelihood of either scenario, be it the Big Kabooya or the Arch Architect in and of itself can neither be justified by chance nor separated in fact. To the point.

Why are atheist and agnostics so sad? I only have half of my salary left, I still have half my salary left. Is it merely a matter of perspective? Those who have taken the same set of facts and provided themselves with a way to not fear fear itself, to justify the uplifting of their fellows and hold a treasure yet to come may be the optimists among us.

Maybe at 48, or whichever age Twain suggested, I will revert to an atheistic viewpoint. But until then, I will maintain that we should rejoice in our existence, cherish our fellow man and follow the framework that has more or less universally been accepted as righteous and fair out of respect for my existence and for those blessed with the same.

I do fear the atheist point of view. I only have half my salary left would suggest dissatisfaction, and a desire for more. With no moral bounds of the afterlife or judgement, this dissatisfaction could lead one to do several things. Perhaps even blow up major buildings to hide my misdoings and as a cheap way to further my own agenda. Such things do happen in the name of religion, but not in the substance of it. While for atheists, earthly ends and means are the be all and end all.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:06 am

Does anyone speak sabotagese? I have no idea what he's saying, other than "I'm right and you're wrong"...
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby _sabotage_ on Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:15 am

Does this vary from what you are saying?

Evidence for either side of the equation, which in the end comes down to the infinitely small chance that we are in existence, is and always will be open to interpretation.

In my point of view, I can define the results I expect to follow. Can you?
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby universalchiro on Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:28 pm

chang50 wrote:
universalchiro wrote:
_sabotage_ wrote:Many older skulls are found with a common anomaly to modern skulls: they have a thickened brow.

Note: the brow continues to grow with age in modern humans.

Genesis 5:23
Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years.

Now that I have irrefutably proven the existence of God, I hope that his light may shine through you as a beacon to our generation.

Valid point.
I forgot that prior to the flood, oxygen levels were 50% higher than today's current values. Life thrives in an hyperoxia environment. Therefore, it's plausible that secondary growth sites may have had a continued production of Somatostatin and Somatotropin.
If the hypothesis is correct, one would expect to find fossils that corroborate hypertrophy of the secondary growth characteristics. But so many fossils have been fabricated, that it's becoming hard to tell what is authentic these days.

Just some of the falsified fossils in an attempt to establish a link from man to primates include: Java man, Lucy, Piltdown man, Nebraska Man, Neanderthal man


Man IS a primate........even you can't dispute that surely?

Chang, I understand your view. that homo sapiens evolved from hominids. and hominids are classified as an extinct primate. But please understand that those classifications where organized by evolutionist to purport their belief that humans evolved from the single cell amoeba that spontaneously became into existence and evolved into all the complexities of life we see today. So I reject that humans are primates through an evolutionary process.

I don't adhere to an evolutionary view. So I don't believe in evolution like you do. There is just too many holes for this hypothesis to have faith in. Though I admire your measure of faith to believe that though spontaneous life is proven false that you still accept it. And it doesn't make sense that humans shed all their fur heading into the ice age. And all missing link fossils that establish a link of humans to primates have been falsified. And the missing link of establishing that dinosaurs evolved into birds found with Archeoraptor was also falsified data. And German Haeskel's embryo drawings establishing the similarities of embryos with many kinds was proven a lie. And the faith that the layers on the crust of the earth though took 100,000 to 1 million years to form each one is uniform and void of commingling from the rainfall during those 100,000 to million years to form. And that there is no cross breeding of kinds. And though there is adaptation, there are limits to the adaptation. And that there is zero observable evidence of evolution today. Even the wiki bacteria experiment just shows that the bacteria are still bacteria.

After it's all said and done, there is zero observable evidence of evolution today. Everything is taken as a leap of faith.

while there is ample evidence of a creator. Every time we see a watch, we know there is a watch maker, even when we see simple stone laid in a circle, we know man did that. And the human DNA code is infinitely more complex. Just ask a software writer how hard it is to write a simple program, and if one small portion has an error, the whole program will not work. Yet evolutionist have faith that random, unguided, mutations improved on DNA coding and evolved information that wasn't there previously? This defies logic. any changes to the DNA code is more likely to degrade the code then enhance it.

Going from nothing to life is impossible.
Going from simple to complex violates entropy.
Believing in something that is not observable violates the scientific method.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby Frigidus on Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:45 pm

chang50 wrote:
universalchiro wrote:
_sabotage_ wrote:Many older skulls are found with a common anomaly to modern skulls: they have a thickened brow.

Note: the brow continues to grow with age in modern humans.

Genesis 5:23
Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years.

Now that I have irrefutably proven the existence of God, I hope that his light may shine through you as a beacon to our generation.

Valid point.
I forgot that prior to the flood, oxygen levels were 50% higher than today's current values. Life thrives in an hyperoxia environment. Therefore, it's plausible that secondary growth sites may have had a continued production of Somatostatin and Somatotropin.
If the hypothesis is correct, one would expect to find fossils that corroborate hypertrophy of the secondary growth characteristics. But so many fossils have been fabricated, that it's becoming hard to tell what is authentic these days.

Just some of the falsified fossils in an attempt to establish a link from man to primates include: Java man, Lucy, Piltdown man, Nebraska Man, Neanderthal man


Man IS a primate........even you can't dispute that surely?


I see you haven't met universalchiro. Be warned, the rabbit hole is deeper than it initially seems.
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:38 pm

At the risk of being ignored further.
universalchiro wrote:Mormons use to teach black people came from the mark placed on Cain. They have recanted this teaching.
Whether this was a physical mark or a spiritual mark is not known.

How would it work if it was not a visible mark?
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14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. 15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby mrswdk on Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:52 pm

Anyone whose outlook on life leads then to be totally chill and accepting about losing half their salary is going to have their head stood on by a whole load of people. Have fun being all Jesus about your wife's inevitable affair.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby _sabotage_ on Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:01 pm

The glass is half full either way.

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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby _sabotage_ on Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:11 pm

2dimes wrote:At the risk of being ignored further.
universalchiro wrote:Mormons use to teach black people came from the mark placed on Cain. They have recanted this teaching.
Whether this was a physical mark or a spiritual mark is not known.

How would it work if it was not a visible mark?
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) wrote:Genesis 4:14-15
14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. 15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.



Scent? Vibration? Aura?
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:35 pm

I certainly doubt it was a scent. Human's don't pick up on that very well. Maybe it was not passed on to his descendants.

Then again if it became a race. I think it would more likely be the one to the east not the one to the southwest.
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby _sabotage_ on Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:41 pm

Damnit 2dimes, are you suggesting my sons bears the mark in his slanty eyes?
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Re: Why are atheists and agnostics so sad?

Postby tzor on Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:46 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Does anyone speak sabotagese? I have no idea what he's saying, other than "I'm right and you're wrong"...


Yes, but having made my saving throw, I do not go insane trying to understand what he is saying. :twisted:
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Postby tzor on Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:49 pm

2dimes wrote: Maybe it was not passed on to his descendants.


There is nothing in the story to suggest that it was passed down. The mark is merely to keep random people from shouting "OMG, you're that guy who killed your brother" and then killing him.
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:28 pm

_sabotage_ wrote:Damnit 2dimes, are you suggesting my sons bears the mark in his slanty eyes?

Loosley as in I think it could be possible, but good news, we're all equally filthy in the eyes of God. :D

Only assorted racists like, Christian or Atheist, Aryan supremacists think they could be better than anyone else.

Noted cat collector tzor kind of says, "No way!" above so there's that too.
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