The Whitechapel Murderer- GAME OVER - TOWN WON

[Anarkistsdream]

The day dawns, but the fog rolling in makes it seem almost like night.

Some of you snap to, aware that the shadows of night are receding, albeit slowly, as a night watchman patrols the area known as Whitechapel.

A paperboy stands across the corner from the meeting hall where all of you reside until this nightmare is over. Nothign seems suspicious, until you hear the sound of the paperboy calling, "Leather Apron again messages the police! Is Leather Apron unstoppable?!"

A lady of the night drops the current paper as she passes by the entryway to the meeting hall.

Quickly, the group grabs the paper, anxious to read the words of Jack the Ripper.

Dear Boss

Your necktie party was fun to watch though the bugger gave quite a kick. Nothin (sic) beats the work of a good scalpel. My head is full and my eyes can see ohhh so far...ohh so far. My calling is true and me mission pure. There be others whos (sic) mission is not mine. Ha Ha the jokes on them. Heya boss hows about a riddle?

Seek the ancient king who lies in the Hanging Garden for justice to prevail or my beauty Amytis will be the next to fall.

From Hell

Jack the Ripper

A quick body count, and you see.....

EVERYBODY! Nobody died!

Day 2 begins!

With 14 left, it still takes EIGHT (8) to lynch! The day will drop to SEVEN (7) needed for a lynch at this time on Saturday, or Sunday, if you are from Eastern Europe.

If anybody has any questions, please PM me. Otherwise, let the search commence!

[kratos644]

So looks like either a doctor save or a roleblocker got him?

[DoomYoshi]

I am starting to think my day 1 theory is correct. There is no ripper, we are all just being paranoid.

[HotShot53]

Nine people have sent in their action...

I hope the other six of you do soon!

So everyone has night actions, including the dead person? interesting lol. Somehow I'm guessing this is misleading, though i'm not sure why the mod would post like this.

[Anarkistsdream]

Nine people have sent in their action...

I hope the other six of you do soon!

So everyone has night actions, including the dead person? interesting lol. Somehow I'm guessing this is misleading, though i'm not sure why the mod would post like this.

Hahahaha... wondered if anyone would comment on that... just wanted to give everyone a prod and it was easier. I appreciate your attention. 100 points to Hufflepuff

[Nebuchadnezer]

So looks like either a doctor save or a roleblocker got him?

Oh, I'm sure it's not as simple as that...and I don't think anyone needs to give themselves away, as I'm sure there are multiple mechanics going on here. Let's just be happy that we all made it through the night.

With Metsfanmax's flip as Whitechapel Vigilante Committee, I must abandon all my preconceived notions of town and 3rd party...his death proves me wrong.

Other than that, I don't have a strong lead after N1.

[gregwolf121]

@neb, metsfan wasn't a vigilante, he was part of the whitechapel vigilance committee, see quote below
other than that im not sure, i have few theories that will take time to test, so for right now i got nothing

A long and tiring day was ending in the neighborhood of Whitechapel. Claims from two had turned the case off of them, but that still left thirteen more. Thirteen people who could be committing these horrible crimes. And were the claims from the other two even valid? What evidence could be found throughout the day and into the night?

Metsfanmax is forcefully grabbed by four members of the community. Neb, FloresdelMal, Iron Butterfly, and ga7 quickly make a noose out of Metsfan's cravat and throw it around the nearest signpost. And like that, life is snuffed out. Going through the pockets of the recently deceased, positive identification is found.

Metsfanmax is/was Peter Tennial, a member of good standing in the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee. He was a father and husband, and a good friend to many of the poor and downtrodden in the area.

Thus begins NIGHT ONE in the case of the Whitechapel Murders. You have 48 hours from the moment of this post, which makes it around 12:15 pm my time. So, Wednesday at my lunchtime, Day 2 will begin.

SEND IN YOUR NIGHT ACTIONS! PLEASE KEEP THE NIGHT SPAM TO A MINIMUM!

[Iron Butterfly]

I'm surprised no one has talked of jacks letter and his riddle.

There is no useful information from the scene other then Jacks letter. He laughs at the lynch of Mets and says hes on a mission.

There be others whos (sic) mission is not mine. Other killers who are not killing for the same reason he is? It could also be those trying to catch him.

The riddle seems to suggest he has picked someone to kill if someone or something is not found.

[benga]

Seek the ancient king who lies in the Hanging Garden for justice to prevail or my beauty Amytis will be the next to fall.

Nebuchadnezzar


Amuhia or Amytis of Media (c. 630–565 BC) was the daughter or granddaughter of the king Cyaxares, and the wife of Nebuchadnezzar II.->flores??

[Nebuchadnezer]

Outrage has risen from across the city, as the murders began more than three months ago, and yet no one has been caught for the crimes. The Whitechapel Police, Scotland Yard, and even a group of citizen vigilantes known as the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee have been performing investigations. More than 80 people had already been accused of the crimes, and more than 300 interviews have been performed.

No, the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee is clearly mentioned in the Opening Scene. My assumptions put them as third party. By Mets flipping as town, I no longer assume that...and I'm also done with meta guessing.

Funny insight Benga. So are you saying I have to be hung, or I have to be kept alive?

And why do you point to Flores?

[benga]

Outrage has risen from across the city, as the murders began more than three months ago, and yet no one has been caught for the crimes. The Whitechapel Police, Scotland Yard, and even a group of citizen vigilantes known as the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee have been performing investigations. More than 80 people had already been accused of the crimes, and more than 300 interviews have been performed.

No, the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee is clearly mentioned in the Opening Scene. My assumptions put them as third party. By Mets flipping as town, I no longer assume that...and I'm also done with meta guessing.

Funny insight Benga. So are you saying I have to be hung, or I have to be kept alive?

And why do you point to Flores?

As far as I know she is the only female here or maybe it's a female character, so my asumption can be wrong, I have just googled to see what can I find.

From what I see you are part of town and you should do your job, whatever it might be

[safariguy5]

Interesting that nobody was killed. I'm still a bit skeptical of Moriarty/Holmes involvement, but it seems to point towards Moriarty not having a killing role if he is in this game.

Also, if we do have some sort of vigilante role/group, they seem to have done a good job of not getting trigger happy on Night 1. Kudos to them.

[strike wolf]

Interesting that nobody was killed. I'm still a bit skeptical of Moriarty/Holmes involvement, but it seems to point towards Moriarty not having a killing role if he is in this game.

Also, if we do have some sort of vigilante role/group, they seem to have done a good job of not getting trigger happy on Night 1. Kudos to them.

Holmes has been confirmed through scene evidence and the first post where Nark clearly says he's going to include them. This has been pointed out more than once. Seems unlikely that you would have missed that.

[HotShot53]

No, the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee is clearly mentioned in the Opening Scene. My assumptions put them as third party. By Mets flipping as town, I no longer assume that...and I'm also done with meta guessing.

Funny insight Benga. So are you saying I have to be hung, or I have to be kept alive?

And why do you point to Flores?

As far as I know she is the only female here or maybe it's a female character, so my asumption can be wrong, I have just googled to see what can I find.

From what I see you are part of town and you should do your job, whatever it might be

Since there are so few female players here, I'd assume a female character... that's how it's worked in other games here so far. Otherwise things would be way too obvious and easy, and not fair for Flores.

The bigger question, is that a direct reference to Neb, or something misleading? And why do you assume Neb is town? I'm not saying he isn't, just don't have any proof either way yet.

[strike wolf]

I don't get why it appears that Neb was mentioned in the scene. As far as referencing the female for the kill, that's probably a dead end street since all of Jack's victims were female anyways and that doesn't tell us anything new.

[DoomYoshi]

I have no evidence which suggests a non-town faction.

vote no lynch

[HotShot53]

I have no evidence which suggests a non-town faction.

vote no lynch

Did you investigate already? If so, who did you investigate?

[DoomYoshi]

I can't investigate today.

[DoomYoshi]

Before you ask, yes I know why... no, it won't help if I tell you why.

[Anarkistsdream]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT
No lynch (1) - DoomYoshi

[new guy1]

I dont have any info, but I will say that DY mentioned the convenience that I stated we didnt want more claims but that I didnt want a no lynch, but failed to post a solution. I didnt know a solution at the time and was just stating my thought process mostly for personal reference, but also for speculation as to how to fix it. Thats all I have, studying for midterms so Ill post more when I can.

[strike wolf]

Alright so I don't have too much to go on. A lot of it is gut feeling from his play but:

What does Sherlock holmes have to do with it?

Seems to me to add a bit more spice to the game. The fictional character of Sherlock Homes bio runs parallel to the real life murders of Jack the ripper. Holmes would have been in his 30s or 40s in real life. There is also a game called Sherlock Holmes vs jack the ripper so having the Sir Connan Doyle universe in our game makes perfect sense.

Its a very nice touch actually. I have a hunch that Moriarty may be a killer as well as he certainly was a bad guy and Holmes's mortal enemy.

It's interesting that Nark would mix in some literary characters with some real ones. If indeed Sherlock Holmes is in this game, I would actually expect him to have an alternate win condition. I bet if he can get rid of Moriarty somehow, that would be the WC. Also, I would expect the same from Moriarty. Mutual lynchers seems to make sense to me.

Also, I would think it's extremely unlikely Moriarty is the killer.

Not skimming but I'm unsure whether Moriarty would be in this game or not. Given it's based on an event with a lot of mystery, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few red herrings in the scenes.

Actually you did say "If indeed Sherlock Holmes is in this game" which means you were putting doubt onto it. This points out the contradiction in your next post where you say you were only questioning if Moriarty was in the game.

Read and caught up. Sorry, Ive been sick all weak, but I finally got really sick last night. Im better than I was last night, so Ill make a post.

I dont like how flores said that Mets BW on doom was the scummiest thing all day and then she voted binga supposedly because of his meaningless post and you "don't appreciate his accusation towards neb, saying he is throwing dust on our eyes, when he is obviously just trying to get things going." Because I have done exactly the same thing, Im just going to FOS Flores.

This being said, Benga OMGUSed, which I find to be something more scummy than what flores did (I may have the bias of experience in not properly exaggerating my feelings about multiple cases in one post). I will therefore, Unvote, vote benga.

No more SAD PANDA, anark? Is it bad that I read that phrase in his tone of voice.

I disagree with the interpretation that Met's vote was the scummiest thing all day, but given that he's already been called out for it by other people, I can see Flores' logic of voting someone who hasn't been presented as a candidate with scummy behavior.

Playing both sides of the argument. By no means a sure sign of scum as I do it too if I am unsure how to proceed with a current case but worth noting.

OMGUS vote is obvious, but I wouldn't want an accidental lynch with the shortening lynch clock, so I will withhold a vote until benga posts a defense.

OMGus is pretty much the most common new player make town or scum. Most new players aren't used to the idea of being called out particularly when they feel the reasons are erroneous (which they almost always feel is the case when they are town) and the common reaction is to lash out at the accuser.

There really isn't any case on benga other than a n00b OMGUS, which seems to happen in every game I play in. Makes me start to believe n00b OMGUS's aren't a scum tell but just a sign of a new player.

Doom and New Guy were quick to BW though... interesting.

As stated by nag, the 2 bandwagon votes are suspicious... and maybe more suspicious than a newbie's OMGUS vote.

What is interesting is that we need a day 1 lynch, it is effectively a random lynch and we could do worse than lynching a newb.

I completely disagree with you that since someone needs to be lynched, might as well lynch the newbie... if we want new people to like playing we shouldn't lynch them on day 1.

For reason of the bandwagon vote, and the "oh well, might as well lynch a newbie just to lynch him, even though I think he's town", I am going to vote doomyoshi because that's the closest thing to suspicious I've seen so far. (Plus anark said doomyoshi was going to be jack and we should just lynch him to end the game, right?)

I think that Doom worded it poorly when he said the lynch was "random". I don't believe it was random insofar as there was an OMGUS vote by benga and therefore some justification for pressure. However, I take issue not so much with the noob defense, but more that people are willing to buy the noob defense by benga. I know I've come into conflict with Fir over this before, but remember that the roles are given randomly. Statistically, benga could very well be town. However, on the off chance that he is one of the killers, accepting a noob defense now puts us on a slippery slope of accepting the same rationale later on. I want to hear a claim from benga before we decide whether to believe him. If he indeed is a killer, I could see him hide behind the noob defense if pressured later on if we allow him to skate with no information now.

Just kind of pushing the Benga case from the side lines. Not voting just prodding it forward. Pushing for a claim with relatively few votes.

Had a little free time today so I've read up. Haven't seen anything overly scummy due to the things that would normally appear scummy not appearing as scummy when considering meta. I believe benga's claim. There usually seems to be some language barrier issues which leads to things that appear very OMGUS like. I would like the remainder of the information as well. If you're going to claim don't half do it. That's what gets people lynched

I am not sure if it's wise for me to say it...all those forcing me to say feel very scummy to me

wish I had more experience that this...

but think my role is more important down the way

okay here goes: I get to vote 2 times, my 2nd vote will be marked as ? and I have now lost my ability for this and next day

at this point it seems to me that neb saf and flores are somehow in connection

neb and saf protecting flores and constantly forcing me the reveal myself

Ok, you can't say that I am protecting flores because your play caused me to strongly consider voting you. Which I would have done prior to you claiming anyways. In no way is that protecting someone. Protecting someone means defending someone when they come under lynch pressure and flores was at no way under lynch pressure at the time.

vote benga for falsely linking me to Flores. Probably more a symbolic vote than anything, but you still have yours on flores, so I think it's a tit for tat thing.

As for the claim, I don't think miller would be likely for the roleclaim mainly because the authorities cleared him. So in the theme, there's no real reason to suspect him to be the killer despite initial suspicions.

I can't understand the case on Doom either. What's the rationale for voting him again? He hints at a role and everyone just wants to figure out what it is? I've seen no other reason for voting him and the people on the wagon seem like they're rolefishing to me. FoS nag and flores

Eh. Don't really have an issue with the post. It kind of came as the Benga case was starting to die pretty much dead. Most of the logic is sound enough. Just don't want to be accused of pointing out Saf's sideline pressure of Benga and then get called out for skipping the post where he did eventually vote Benga. I will note that it came after a post where I had pointed out that he hadn't voted and that I was starting to consider him as one of my top suspects. In fact it was his first after it.

I skipped a few posts of his just because I didn't really have much to say about them. As I said, the case I feel on him is mostly just gut feelings where his posts have been giving me the scummy vibe.

[safariguy5]

I will freely admit now that I'm pretty sure I have a miller role from certain faction's point of view, so I was subtly trying to get an investigative role who wouldn't get biased investigate me. Whether or not that was successful remains to be seen. But at least it's a talking point after a night with not much to show for.

[strike wolf]

Did you just soft claim who I think you just did?

[nagerous]

Busy weekend folks, will try and catch up.. I'd like to hear more from safari though after that last post..