[Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 4/18 Blue. Town&DEA+rug win

[Rugbirn]

I AM a member of town, my only inter enemies are DEA. With 2 mafia factions believe me I am not even worried about any other DEAs.
I didn't know what "Heisenberg" meant either, especially since I never seen the show before... Strike said I am a sub-faction of town. I win with the town I just cannot win with the DEA.
Well I didn't want to reveal myself to the DEA in case they have any plans to kill me, and I did not want to reveal I was masoned with Walter White.
TBH I hesitated and almost claimed normal town bus driver, but I decided against it.

Ohhh, contrair my friend:

I am a terrible mafia player. I am going to partially claim to give counter evidence against Rugbirn.

Town Bus Driver

Last night I bussed CD and Superkeener.

I did this because I was not 100% sold on the Superkeener case. I was going to stay away from CD hoping there was protection out there, but with the doctor dead I felt obligated to protect CD. If CD was targetted and Superkeener died, it would have been a big question mark off my list.

Rugbirn claimed he prevents night kills, if he targetted CD, Superkeener should be alive right now.

Only other option I can think of is that Rugbirn was Roleblocked, but I don't think that happened.

Last night the death toll rose from 2 to 3, that makes me believe that the poisoner is actually a real thing.

I am not quite sure why superkeener was targetted for a night kill though.... And this is giving me second thoughts about writing this post. I really hope I do not regret this later.
I messed up last night and I messed up today, I think that this helps clear the game up a little bit and gets rid of some fog.

I do not want to claim my N1 because I can potentially bust scum later. And I can increase my odds of survival by bussing myself. (WIFOM)
I would rather hold onto my meth results as well, because right now it is barely worth anything, but its value may rise later on if someone lies.

Imma go hide in a corner now. I have flip flopped on Rugbirn back and forth I don't know what to do, that is why I am putting this on the table.

I hope I don't regret this.

[Rugbirn]

This really changes everything.

[MoB Deadly]

ok;so now let's get back to real business. you know more than what you're saying mob. you had to kill DEA and you bussed hank with.... let's assume super is correct; and since you are masonned with walter, walter viged super, so your faction could get rid of your DEA enemy. seems pretty clear now.

no no no no. Hell no. I had no idea CD was going to die, nor did I want him to. My goal was to keep our town cop alive, not to get him killed.
I bussed him with super because even though xstor had a case on him, I personally didn't think he was mafia.

But if someone targetted CD and Super died, I wouldn't have been mad about it, because I thought with Supers death xstor could make some more guesses on who was mafia


fp by rugbirn. Oh toucé, I did.

[Rugbirn]

MoB you are saying your color is the same as Hank's (CoolDeals), or are they different from both town and DEA?

[MoB Deadly]

MoB you are saying your color is the same as Hank's (CoolDeals), or are they different from both town and DEA?

A 3rd different color. I could find it if you really wanted, but I tried for like 5-10 minutes and couldn't really get them exact.

[Rugbirn]

Soe we have town - Blue, DEA - bluish gray, and you bluish something. It seems to me that all the blueish colors are "town aligned"

[Rugbirn]

So, correct me if I am wrong. You are Heisenburg's bus driver, so anyone you bus gets reported to Heisenberg, or Hesienberg and Walter White. So have we determined that they (Heisenberg and Walter White) are indeed two different roles in this game? And obviously, you can bus any two people left in the game.

[MoB Deadly]

What? No. Heisenberg is just mine and Walter White's fancy name.
Bus driving gets no reports so we talk about what we are doing before we do it.
Heisenberg is not a role in this game, just as the DEA is not.

[betiko]

lol at rugbirn's confusions. with the claim.

and mob i don't believe you. If I were you that is totally what I would've planned last night. you need to get rid of DEA, so obviously you are not going to protect them, lol, why even pretend after explaining your WC?

side note: it's not "Ohhh, contrair" but "au contraire". It litterally means "at the contrary". "au" is a linguism standing for "à le" meaning "at the". it's not an Ohhhhhhhhh as an interjection of surprise lol, that was pretty funny!
mob replies "Oh toucé"; in that case the ohhhh is correct. (the word is "touché" though)

[MoB Deadly]

I wont let you accuse us of killing someone we didn't kill.
Maybe if CD was something unimportant, like non-investigative then I would accept your accusation.
We can't win if town doesn't win so we have NO intention of outing them early.

Listen, I have no idea who performed the 3rd kill. That is EXACTLY why, I partial claimed, I thought Rugbirn performed the 3rd kill as a poisoner.
If we were responsible for the 3rd kill, do you think I would even put myself out there voluntarily?

[betiko]

I AM a member of town, my only inter enemies are DEA. With 2 mafia factions believe me I am not even worried about any other DEAs.
I didn't know what "Heisenberg" meant either, especially since I never seen the show before... Strike said I am a sub-faction of town. I win with the town I just cannot win with the DEA.
Well I didn't want to reveal myself to the DEA in case they have any plans to kill me, and I did not want to reveal I was masoned with Walter White.
TBH I hesitated and almost claimed normal town bus driver, but I decided against it.

lol. I would totally save hank in that case with a busdrive too!

[TheForgivenOne]

I AM a member of town, my only inter enemies are DEA. With 2 mafia factions believe me I am not even worried about any other DEAs.
I didn't know what "Heisenberg" meant either, especially since I never seen the show before... Strike said I am a sub-faction of town. I win with the town I just cannot win with the DEA.
Well I didn't want to reveal myself to the DEA in case they have any plans to kill me, and I did not want to reveal I was masoned with Walter White.
TBH I hesitated and almost claimed normal town bus driver, but I decided against it.

lol. I would totally save hank in that case with a busdrive too!

Explain to me how Mob knew that Super was going to be killed in the night

@MoB Is Walter White A killing role? Or, do you even know his role?

[MoB Deadly]

If I didn't want CD to live I simply wouldn't have bussed him in the first place, I would have bussed myself for self-preservation.
Which would have been the "correct" thing to do if Rugbirn is telling the truth ironically.
But go f*ck yourself if you think we killed him, because my actions have been pro town.
Killing Mafia always comes first.

fped - - Fine whatever.

I bussed CD to HELP TOWN, instead of myself.
I Partial claimed to HELP TOWN, outing myself
This is exactly why I didn't want to name claim all the way. This is a stupid distraction instead of focusing on Rugbirn/Gregwolf/Jonty.

But apparently you don't want my help anymore if you keep this bullshit accusations up.

fped

[virus90]

so if im right that means walter white is a vig?
i mean you busdrived hank on purpose, it is your goal to eliminate him. So i wont believe it when you say; we did it to protect him. so is it the right conclusion that WW is a/the vigilante?

fastposted many times.
but came to same conclusion i guess

not that it matters if your town allignement but for the understanding of the game

[MoB Deadly]

I am done talking for today
I find it insulting and repulsive that you think we killed Hank.

With our doctor dead I felt like I should help out. But it gets thrown back in my face.

[virus90]

i partially get it that you are insulted MOB but the reasoning of me and the rest is very logic in my opinion aswell.
Basicly the question is: is Walter a vigilante i guess. seeing your reaction it appears not to be, but the logic behind the deduction that WW is a vig is compelling issnt it? so thats why I asked the question, and i guess the others aswell. as stated in my post; its not to accuse you or WW of things but to understand what is going on and thus to find maffia, not town alligned third/forth/fifth party.

[MoB Deadly]

It is also ironic because me and WW had no discussion about it. I offered a couple bus options and said I would favor bussing our cop.
WW agreed right away, there was not even a discussion if we should be selfish or not and bus ourselves, when we easily could have.

I am not revealing anything about WW at this time. I will talk to him tonight and see if he wants me to speak on his behalf at all, but I doubt it.

[Rugbirn]

@MoB - So there is no Heisenberg character (i.e. one of us left), it is just Walter's alter ego. And you and Walter White discuss who you are going to bus? Does de tell you who he is going to NK?

@Betiko - Ig I lived in Paris, I guess I would know that - but at least you got the message.

@MoB - I believe everything you are saying AND understand why you claimed Town Bus Driver initially (however, you lied). I'm just trying to understand the mason role.

[Rugbirn]

Well, from what you are saying and what has been posted, I think I know who WW is, and if you do NOT want to play our switcheroo, at least I have another option of who to protect (assumiong I'm not lynched). When is lynch time tomorrow BTW.

[Iron Butterfly]

Hey Mob...If you can not win if The DEA live is the same as saying you need DEA dead to win. Lets say all the mafia die how are you suppose to win if you guys cant kill?

Which leads me to believe that perhaps you guys can kill?

[betiko]

ok, I have to admit i'm laughing my ass off reading these last 2 pages as mob realises he shouldn't have said that "the heisenbergs" can't win with the DEA after admitting he bussed the DEA that was getting night protection after rodion asked rugbirn to do so

Mob, seriously, you have a strange way of playing. when you are mafia and you discuss with your scummates at night, do you also try not to be selfish and you go for the biggest danger for the majority (town)?

@TFO: mob had no idea that super was going to get killed last night. he just needed a random switcheroo so WW could perform the kill on the outed DEA agent.
Ironically enough, cartel chose hank too and killed their godfather

fp

[MoB Deadly]

If we killed Hank I would have played silent today, end of story. I would have no reason to put myself out there.

[betiko]

Hey Mob...If you can not win if The DEA live is the same as saying you need DEA dead to win. Lets say all the mafia die how are you suppose to win if you guys cant kill?

Which leads me to believe that perhaps you guys can kill?

obviously yes to all your questions IB, he just said too much. now town needs to figure out how to maintain peace with allit's factions.
my guess is that WW is only able to kill mafia/cartel/dea. if he targets anyone else there is no kill as a result. this would be the twist for balance and to avoid town vigingnot done on purpose.

I believe everything mob said, he's actually been a bit too honest and we can all see clear in his faction's game now. I'm pretty sure that the heisenberg faction is bigger than the DEA faction though... just thinking out loud concerning all town aligned factions united...

[strike wolf]

Official Vote Count

Rishaed (1)-Virus90,
Gregwolf121 (2)-Theforgivenone, Betiko
Theforgivenone (1)-Rugbirn
mob deadly (1)-Iron Butterfly
betiko
metsfanmax
rodion
virus90
iron butterfly
Rugbirn (2)-Rodion, Jonty125
Jonty125

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is in one day.

I have to say this is getting interesting.

[virus90]

deadline is next friday, is that the same as TOMORROW ?