Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

[AslanTheKing]

Haven't locked my doors in 25 years my man....good call

this is something i admire, to live in a place where u dont have to lock your house, since u live in freedom,
my grandfathers house was like that, his house was never locked, i lived there until i was 5 years old.
and yes he had a shotgun too, but for hunting reasons, ( and storys say i sticked my finger into the shotgun...he catched me and told me never ever to touch his gun again )he served in the korean war, he was a tough but nice chap. he told me to close my eyes when he killed the chicken, saying i would get nightmares,
he forbid me to count the starts, i dont know why,
the only bad memory i do have is when he was beating that calve because it ran away and he had to catch it again,
i didnt like that scene.

[saxitoxin]

Haven't locked my doors in 25 years my man....good call

this is something i admire, to live in a place where u dont have to lock your house, since u live in freedom,
my grandfathers house was like that, his house was never locked, i lived there until i was 5 years old.
and yes he had a shotgun too, but for hunting reasons, ( and storys say i sticked my finger into the shotgun...he catched me and told me never ever to touch his gun again )he served in the korean war, he was a tough but nice chap. he told me to close my eyes when he killed the chicken, saying i would get nightmares,
he forbid me to count the starts, i dont know why,
the only bad memory i do have is when he was beating that calve because it ran away and he had to catch it again,
i didnt like that scene.

Is it just me or does anyone else read Aslan's posts like song lyrics?

Try singing his post with this playing in the background and you'll see what I mean:



Aslan is one of my top 5 favorite posters and this is 90% of the reason.

[AslanTheKing]

Aslan is such a martyr, just like his namesake.

i am not a martyr, i just get very emotional with things like that,
i do think i am a nice person and stand my moral grounds,
but believe me - sometimes i do hate my selve for beeing nice,
i cant stand it anymore, i wished i could be not nice,
i received an advice long time ago from a guy who was rich as hell,
(i mention rich as hell, since people who are rich as hell are successfull,
that means they have other instincts and follow them, with no mercy)
he said to me, aslan you are too nice, dont be nice
and today in the year 2014,
he was right, and just today i do have the legal round to be a big asshole, but i choose to let it be,
i dont want to kick someone who is on the ground already
i am too nice

[AslanTheKing]

Most Europeans,especially as young as 17 have NO idea what a fucked-up place the US is.It's only with the advent of the 'net we are becoming educated.They are raised in an environment where they hardly ever see guns.I'm 58 and I've never even touched one.So glad I wasn't born there.

this is maybe the reason, we cant imagine,
i have never ever had a gun in my hands, because i know what guns can do,
the same with drugs ( except just to try some marihiuana-done that, dont need it) anything chemical-no thanks, i know what they can do
we are spoiled in europe, we have never seen war,
the only place i can think of war related is yugoslavia, there might be a different generation growing up
but besides, any other country in europe has no idea ( except the british-they are tough people)

[AslanTheKing]

Maybe you guys like "most Eurpeans" don't live or work in a place where you could get mauled to death by a black bear coming out of the wash car ( trailer with sinks and toilets.) like Lorna Weafer.

Let's make it a huge hassle for dimes and his responsible buddies to own legal firearms. Funny how the "suspect" shooting Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers the other day had a gun. Do you think it was registered?

i can really understand that there are gunowners in alaska or in wild canadian and usa places,
this is all fine, i dont have a problem with that
what disturbs me is if people use it on other people, its not good
if it where only for selvdefence, still okay
but some irresponsible psychos use it on anything and for any reason
thas dangerous for a society

[AslanTheKing]

I really don't understand all the fear of firearms in the world. I was taught to use firearms before I could ride a bike. I've carried a firearm for most of my adult life (I'm 57), and have yet to kill anyone. {as a civilian} I taught my kids to shoot starting around 4-5 years of age. The youngest is 20, and they haven't shot anyone either. I also love the "statistics" and "facts" anti-gunners use. If you would do a little research, you would find that most of them are biased, manipulated, or flat out fabricated. (and no, I won't show you. Get off your lazy ass and do your own legwork)

Here are a few stories you anti's will hate.
http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen.aspx

FYI: My avatar is my go to carry gun. A Smith & Wesson Model 36 5 shot .38 special, circa 1970. Carried this one for 18+ years, ain't shot nobody yet!

I suppose my point is, my guns are NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS!!!! So, STFU, GTFO, and GFYS. Have a nice day!

this is one of the examples how it should be, u have a gun, and in 20 years u never had to use it
u live in texas, a huge country, i have been in many places in the states ( mostly cities) but unfortunately
never made it to texas, i do think in places like texas ( not in city´s) people do carry, have guns
since your next neightbour is maybe many hours away, if

[saxitoxin]

Maybe you guys like "most Eurpeans" don't live or work in a place where you could get mauled to death by a black bear coming out of the wash car ( trailer with sinks and toilets.) like Lorna Weafer.

Let's make it a huge hassle for dimes and his responsible buddies to own legal firearms. Funny how the "suspect" shooting Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers the other day had a gun. Do you think it was registered?

science confirms

Bears:


Guns:

[kuthoer]

I own guns,

Ok.

Most States in America, make it too easy to have and purchase guns by unstable people.

You got that right, apparently-

I'd rather kill someone breaking into my home with my bare hands, as that would feel better to feel their life evaporate before me,

Most people would be offended to get blood on themselves or put some effort to actually kill someone.

But not you, right? You want that blood all over yourself, eh? Would you drink some while you were at it? Maybe cut out their heart and eat it to absorb their power or soul or whatever?

Hahahaha,

You are one silly fellow, that's for sure.

No, not you my friend, you'd rather kill someone easy with a pull of a trigger, heh? That's the problem with America, kill anyone easy without that mess.

[kuthoer]

I own guns, but a lot of cowards want to own guns to prove how macho they are. I'd rather kill someone breaking into my home with my bare hands, as that would feel better to feel their life evaporate before me, then say a blast from a gun.

Guns are very easy to use and it would take some guts to kill someome with your bare hands or say a knife, since it would be easier to just pull a trigger. Most people would be offended to get blood on themselves or put some effort to actually kill someone.

Most States in America, make it too easy to have and purchase guns by unstable people.

Talk is cheap--especially on the internet.

That's why you post your garbage here on CC.

[AslanTheKing]

So what's your solution?

Rely less on politics to fix problems. That leaves people with markets and civil societies.

And be open to the 'do nothing' approach. If one problem is not systematic (e.g. the occasional German stealing stuff from a garage), then it doesn't make sense to mobilize the democratic spirits to implement changes at the national or even the State level. That tends to 'fix' one problem while creating other problems (which then tend to be addressed again through politics; repeat ad nauseum).

Your 'people make 'bad' decisions when they're emotional' point swings both ways. A political system that does not let people act upon every emotional impulse they have can help to insure against emotional groundswells too.

An example that springs to mind is the UK's 'EU referendum' - the British public get all screechy and demand to leave the EU, at which point the prime minister kicks the can down the road a few years without having to worry about an immediate reprisal. This then buys time for the hysteria to die down before any serious decisions are made.

hear, hear, very true indeed,
another point of view, but true
its our politicians who make the rules, are they always in our interests and good for all
or are this politicians acting for their own good, mostly they do, in my opinion

[saxitoxin]

I own guns,

Ok.

Most States in America, make it too easy to have and purchase guns by unstable people.

You got that right, apparently-

I'd rather kill someone breaking into my home with my bare hands, as that would feel better to feel their life evaporate before me,

Most people would be offended to get blood on themselves or put some effort to actually kill someone.

But not you, right? You want that blood all over yourself, eh? Would you drink some while you were at it? Maybe cut out their heart and eat it to absorb their power or soul or whatever?

Hahahaha,

You are one silly fellow, that's for sure.

No, not you my friend, you'd rather kill someone easy with a pull of a trigger, heh?

So far you're the only person in this thread who has said he wants to kill someone.

[AslanTheKing]

I own guns, but a lot of cowards want to own guns to prove how macho they are. I'd rather kill someone breaking into my home with my bare hands, as that would feel better to feel their life evaporate before me, then say a blast from a gun.

Guns are very easy to use and it would take some guts to kill someome with your bare hands or say a knife, since it would be easier to just pull a trigger. Most people would be offended to get blood on themselves or put some effort to actually kill someone.

Most States in America, make it too easy to have and purchase guns by unstable people.

i fully agree here,
at least a real man here on this thread
who believes in himselve, and in gods will
a gun is gun, a man is not always a man

@saxitoxin
you can turn words around here, but this is not what he was saying
the meaning of killing somebody , is solely on selfdefense grounds...

on the other hand,if the garage holder would have been more in control
we would have had a teenager beaten up maybe,
but that would have been it
now we have a young american guest visitor killed
and some people here in europe have a very bad picture of america

i dont have a bad picture of america, since the good picures stay in my mind
and i do love america
just whats worrying me is
what the hell is going on in your beautyful country?
do you know how gifted u are to live there?

[kuthoer]

I own guns, but a lot of cowards want to own guns to prove how macho they are. I'd rather kill someone breaking into my home with my bare hands, as that would feel better to feel their life evaporate before me, then say a blast from a gun.

Guns are very easy to use and it would take some guts to kill someome with your bare hands or say a knife, since it would be easier to just pull a trigger. Most people would be offended to get blood on themselves or put some effort to actually kill someone.

Most States in America, make it too easy to have and purchase guns by unstable people.

i fully agree here,
at least a real man here on this thread
who believes in himselve, and in gods will
a gun is gun, a man is not always a man

@saxitoxin
you can turn words around here, but this is not what he was saying
the meaning of killing somebody , is solely on selfdefense grounds...

on the other hand,if the garage holder would have been more in control
we would have had a teenager beaten up maybe,
but that would have been it
now we have a young american guest visitor killed
and some people here in europe have a very bad picture of america

i dont have a bad picture of america, since the good picures stay in my mind
and i do love america
just whats worrying me is
what the hell is going on in your beautyful country?
do you know how gifted u are to live there?

Saxi is just playing his imaginary role here...whatever it is.

Guns have a way of turning a dispute into a killing. Fighting with your hands, feet or blunt instrument may be ugly, but may be not deadly. Cowards can always use deadly force with a gun, but would probably run and call the cops otherwise.

[BigBallinStalin]

I own guns, but a lot of cowards want to own guns to prove how macho they are. I'd rather kill someone breaking into my home with my bare hands, as that would feel better to feel their life evaporate before me, then say a blast from a gun.

Guns are very easy to use and it would take some guts to kill someome with your bare hands or say a knife, since it would be easier to just pull a trigger. Most people would be offended to get blood on themselves or put some effort to actually kill someone.

Most States in America, make it too easy to have and purchase guns by unstable people.

Talk is cheap--especially on the internet.

That's why you post your garbage here on CC.

Uh-huh. How many imaginary people have you killed and saved?

[saxitoxin]

@saxitoxin
you can turn words around here, but this is not what he was saying
the meaning of killing somebody , is solely on selfdefense grounds...

Um, he said:

"I'd rather kill someone breaking into my home with my bare hands, as that would feel better to feel their life evaporate before me."

That's the exact kind of person who shouldn't own a gun; some psycho with a weird torture-porn fetish.

[kuthoer]

@saxitoxin
you can turn words around here, but this is not what he was saying
the meaning of killing somebody , is solely on selfdefense grounds...

Um, he said:

"I'd rather kill someone breaking into my home with my bare hands, as that would feel better to feel their life evaporate before me."

That's the exact kind of person who shouldn't own a gun; some psycho with a weird torture-porn fetish.

Yes and killing someone with a gun is more sane.

[kuthoer]

I own guns, but a lot of cowards want to own guns to prove how macho they are. I'd rather kill someone breaking into my home with my bare hands, as that would feel better to feel their life evaporate before me, then say a blast from a gun.

Guns are very easy to use and it would take some guts to kill someome with your bare hands or say a knife, since it would be easier to just pull a trigger. Most people would be offended to get blood on themselves or put some effort to actually kill someone.

Most States in America, make it too easy to have and purchase guns by unstable people.

Talk is cheap--especially on the internet.

That's why you post your garbage here on CC.

Uh-huh. How many imaginary people have you killed and saved?

We can only expect such garbage as your response to wholesale killings by guns.

[BigBallinStalin]

Go on about your fantasy of strangling someone to death, kuthoer. It ties in nicely to your national socialist sentiments too.

[patches70]

No, not you my friend, you'd rather kill someone easy with a pull of a trigger, heh? That's the problem with America, kill anyone easy without that mess.

No, unlike you, I have no delusional fantasies about murdering people. With a gun, strangulation or any other means. You on the other hand, how did you put it?

to feel their life evaporate before me

Yeah, go ahead and try to see how nuts that sounds. You, sir, have some serious problems in your head. Maybe a lot of anger, delusions, I don't know. But you should probably go get some mental health help from a qualified shrink.

It's not my fault you seem to be the only one who doesn't see how completely screwed up and crazy what you wrote is.

[mrswdk]

So what's your solution?

Rely less on politics to fix problems. That leaves people with markets and civil societies.

And be open to the 'do nothing' approach. If one problem is not systematic (e.g. the occasional German stealing stuff from a garage), then it doesn't make sense to mobilize the democratic spirits to implement changes at the national or even the State level. That tends to 'fix' one problem while creating other problems (which then tend to be addressed again through politics; repeat ad nauseum).

Your 'people make 'bad' decisions when they're emotional' point swings both ways. A political system that does not let people act upon every emotional impulse they have can help to insure against emotional groundswells too.

An example that springs to mind is the UK's 'EU referendum' - the British public get all screechy and demand to leave the EU, at which point the prime minister kicks the can down the road a few years without having to worry about an immediate reprisal. This then buys time for the hysteria to die down before any serious decisions are made.

Sure, occasionally the 'benevolent' politician makes a presumably good move--regardless of voter rage.

Here's a fun blog about a study which found that preferences of poor voters are not nearly as influential as the preferences of the richer voters:

http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/201 ... ocrac.html

In contrast, I find Gilens' results not only intellectually satisfying, but hopeful. If his results hold up, we know another important reason why policy is less statist than expected: Democracies listen to the relatively libertarian rich far more than they listen to the absolutely statist non-rich. And since I think that statist policy preferences rest on a long list of empirical and normative mistakes, my sincere reaction is to say, "Thank goodness." Democracy as we know it is bad enough. Democracy that really listened to all the people would be an authoritarian nightmare.

I'm okay with this.

[mrswdk]

I guess a fair few cats went missing in kuthoer's childhood neighborhood, huh?

[BigBallinStalin]

Imagine a country whose politics were dominated by people like kutheor. They'd probably beat Zimbabwe in sheer awesomeness.

[mrswdk]

A country run by bloodthirsty 'Big Brother' socialists. I'm sure there's one of those not too far from me!

[pimpdave]

I have more guns than all of you and I know karate.

And my dad can beat up your dad.

[notyou2]

Haven't locked my doors in 25 years my man....good call

My doors aren't locked and I don't own any guns.