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Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue May 13, 2014 7:43 pm

2dimes wrote:I think the problem with the media reporting on people of color, is they only cover gangs and sports. If you don't have close brown friends and occasionally even if you do, it causes you to think maybe all they are doing is throwing balls, shooting hoops and 9mils.

Kind of like the start of this thread where all Americans are hoping to "bag a trophy criminal" to make a nice rug out of.

Fortunately society is standing up for some groups.

But we can still lump all Americans into a prejudicial clump, perceived as morons shooting their guns every chance they get just because ammo is so cheap. Makes it sound like if you live near the border you can sit out on the balcony and listen to the gun fire day and night.


You're just jealous.
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby Phatscotty on Tue May 13, 2014 7:57 pm

AslanTheKing wrote:Image


Aslan, a mind is a terrible thing to waste. You are excused if you are between 16 year old high school student and 19-20 year old freshman in college. Otherwise there is no excuse for your inaccuracy when it comes to this topic, not to mention the reason we understand why foreigners often tend to fill their misery spots with the big bad boogie man on the other side of the planet.

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And another thing, we as a community need to come up with a name that encompasses the characteristics of non-Americans who are all concerned about America. Bonus points if the name accurately reflects the knowledge gap that non-Americans try to flex but cannot understand certain fundamentals that usually can only come from knowing America by being born here or have lived here and been raised by Americans.
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby GabonX on Tue May 13, 2014 8:01 pm

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I bet invading huns would think twice before trying to steal their weed.
Nevertheless, if people would stop taking it upon themselves to ban the use of this or that it would save millions of black children.
Not that you dems actually care about solving problems if money is being spent...
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Postby 2dimes on Tue May 13, 2014 10:38 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
2dimes wrote: shooting their guns every chance they get just because ammo is so cheap. Makes it sound like if you live near the border you can sit out on the balcony and listen to the gun fire day and night.


You're just jealous.

Well duh. :(
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby mrswdk on Wed May 14, 2014 3:03 am

GabonX wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:Image

I bet invading huns would think twice before trying to steal their weed.
Nevertheless, if people would stop taking it upon themselves to ban the use of this or that it would save millions of black children.
Not that you dems actually care about solving problems if money is being spent...


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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby AslanTheKing on Wed May 14, 2014 4:14 pm

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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby AslanTheKing on Wed May 14, 2014 4:34 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:Image


And another thing, we as a community need to come up with a name that encompasses the characteristics of non-Americans who are all concerned about America. Bonus points if the name accurately reflects the knowledge gap that non-Americans try to flex but cannot understand certain fundamentals that usually can only come from knowing America by being born here or have lived here and been raised by Americans.


here are my answers to you dear Phatscotty, if u have any additional questions i will be very happy to answer them,
i dont want to be ignorant ( at least not yet)

does this count also on all black, chinese, kaukasian,latinos born in usa as well? or only the ones u call americans...

you are surprised that the citizens of this world are concerned of America? i give u another look at the picture from another point of view, and i just would like to know why america has his soldiers still in iraq,pacific ( this one i could actually understand) germany ( this one i cant understand) afghanistan ( i have no idea), not to mention the last scandal here in germany where NSA was spying on anything...
an ally who is spying on his own allies, this looks to me very paranoid, what are u afraid of, that germany sides with russia?
we europeans have all rights to worry about usa, and if u kill one of our teenagers we have even more reasons to be concerned
and now something more political
let me give u a nice copy paste thing of countrys where us soldiers are stationed (except in america of course)

1 Afrika
1.1 Ägypten
1.2 Dschibuti
1.3 Kenia
2 Asien
2.1 Afghanistan
2.2 Bahrain
2.3 Britisches Territorium im Indischen Ozean
2.4 Georgien
2.5 Irak
2.6 Japan
2.7 Katar
2.8 Kirgisistan
2.9 Kuwait
2.10 Pakistan
2.11 Saudi-Arabien
2.12 Südkorea
2.13 Türkei
2.14 Usbekistan
2.15 Vereinigte Arabische Emirate
3 Australien/Ozeanien
3.1 Neuseeland
4 Europa
4.1 Albanien
4.2 Bulgarien
4.3 Deutschland
4.4 Griechenland
4.5 Island
4.6 Italien
4.7 Kosovo
4.8 Polen
4.9 Rumänien
4.10 Spanien
4.11 Ungarn
5 Nord- und Mittelamerika
5.1 Costa Rica
5.2 El Salvador
5.3 Grönland
5.4 Honduras
5.5 Kuba
6 Südamerika
6.1 Aruba
6.2 Curaçao
6.3 Ecuador
6.4 Kolumbien
6.5 Paraguay
6.6 Peru
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby Dukasaur on Wed May 14, 2014 4:42 pm

AslanTheKing wrote:
you are surprised that the citizens of this world are concerned of America? i give u another look at the picture from another point of view, and i just would like to know why america has his soldiers still in iraq,pacific ( this one i could actually understand) germany ( this one i cant understand) afghanistan ( i have no idea), not to mention the last scandal here in germany where NSA was spying on anything...
an ally who is spying on his own allies, this looks to me very paranoid, what are u afraid of, that germany sides with russia?
we europeans have all rights to worry about usa, and if u kill one of our teenagers we have even more reasons to be concerned
and now something more political
let me give u a nice copy paste thing of countrys where us soldiers are stationed (except in america of course)

1 Afrika
1.1 Ägypten
1.2 Dschibuti
1.3 Kenia
2 Asien
2.1 Afghanistan
2.2 Bahrain
2.3 Britisches Territorium im Indischen Ozean
2.4 Georgien
2.5 Irak
2.6 Japan
2.7 Katar
2.8 Kirgisistan
2.9 Kuwait
2.10 Pakistan
2.11 Saudi-Arabien
2.12 Südkorea
2.13 Türkei
2.14 Usbekistan
2.15 Vereinigte Arabische Emirate
3 Australien/Ozeanien
3.1 Neuseeland
4 Europa
4.1 Albanien
4.2 Bulgarien
4.3 Deutschland
4.4 Griechenland
4.5 Island
4.6 Italien
4.7 Kosovo
4.8 Polen
4.9 Rumänien
4.10 Spanien
4.11 Ungarn
5 Nord- und Mittelamerika
5.1 Costa Rica
5.2 El Salvador
5.3 Grönland
5.4 Honduras
5.5 Kuba
6 Südamerika
6.1 Aruba
6.2 Curaçao
6.3 Ecuador
6.4 Kolumbien
6.5 Paraguay
6.6 Peru

All true, but where is the relevance?

Do you think that there is a cause-and-effect relationship between America's domestic policies and its foreign policies?
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby KoolBak on Wed May 14, 2014 5:18 pm

They're doing public service.....like teaching peoples how cool it is to own guns.....
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby Jmac1026 on Wed May 14, 2014 8:34 pm

KoolBak wrote:They're doing public service.....like teaching peoples how cool it is to own guns.....

To be fair, most people think our guns are mad cool, yo.
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby Phatscotty on Wed May 14, 2014 10:28 pm

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That's Phatscotty. Didn't you get the memo?


you know yer jell of my guitar hero guitar.

Otherwise no biggie, people confuse me with Saxi all the time
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby Phatscotty on Wed May 14, 2014 10:49 pm

AslanTheKing wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:Image


And another thing, we as a community need to come up with a name that encompasses the characteristics of non-Americans who are all concerned about America. Bonus points if the name accurately reflects the knowledge gap that non-Americans try to flex but cannot understand certain fundamentals that usually can only come from knowing America by being born here or have lived here and been raised by Americans.


here are my answers to you dear Phatscotty, if u have any additional questions i will be very happy to answer them,
i dont want to be ignorant ( at least not yet)

does this count also on all black, chinese, kaukasian,latinos born in usa as well? or only the ones u call americans...


of course. know now that it is your own bigoted mind that dreams these ridiculous assumptions up, since your assumption is ignorant indeed. You really don't get that many do not think the way you do, just as many make the mistake of assuming others are bigoted as you, only a lot more.

AslanTheKing wrote:you are surprised that the citizens of this world are concerned of America? i give u another look at the picture from another point of view, and i just would like to know why america has his soldiers still in iraq,pacific ( this one i could actually understand) germany ( this one i cant understand) afghanistan ( i have no idea), not to mention the last scandal here in germany where NSA was spying on anything...


Why would I be surprised by that, when it is 100% true that I am one of those concerned citizens. You are 0 for 2....


AslanTheKing wrote:an ally who is spying on his own allies, this looks to me very paranoid, what are u afraid of, that germany sides with russia?


Yeah, you are preaching to the choir. Don't know why you would assume I would support that. 0-3

AslanTheKing wrote:we europeans have all rights to worry about usa, and if u kill one of our teenagers we have even more reasons to be concerned
and now something more political
let me give u a nice copy paste thing of countrys where us soldiers are stationed (except in america of course)

1 Afrika
1.1 Ägypten
1.2 Dschibuti
1.3 Kenia
2 Asien
2.1 Afghanistan
2.2 Bahrain
2.3 Britisches Territorium im Indischen Ozean
2.4 Georgien
2.5 Irak
2.6 Japan
2.7 Katar
2.8 Kirgisistan
2.9 Kuwait
2.10 Pakistan
2.11 Saudi-Arabien
2.12 Südkorea
2.13 Türkei
2.14 Usbekistan
2.15 Vereinigte Arabische Emirate
3 Australien/Ozeanien
3.1 Neuseeland
4 Europa
4.1 Albanien
4.2 Bulgarien
4.3 Deutschland
4.4 Griechenland
4.5 Island
4.6 Italien
4.7 Kosovo
4.8 Polen
4.9 Rumänien
4.10 Spanien
4.11 Ungarn
5 Nord- und Mittelamerika
5.1 Costa Rica
5.2 El Salvador
5.3 Grönland
5.4 Honduras
5.5 Kuba
6 Südamerika
6.1 Aruba
6.2 Curaçao
6.3 Ecuador
6.4 Kolumbien
6.5 Paraguay
6.6 Peru


Duh. Thanks for trying to 'get me' by lambasting me with my own exact feelings on the matter. Getting our troops out of a large majority of those countries you list is something I have always supported and continue to support. Gotta start asking yourself why you thought you were pinning me down...... with my own opinions. ??? Go back to the drawing board and burn your sources. You are 0-4

My conclusion: Dear Aslan.... Your head is even further up your ass then I originally thought. You are a drone, and your thread sucks!
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Postby chang50 on Thu May 15, 2014 2:29 am

KoolBak wrote:Everyone's happy and healthy! Amazing!


Sick is how I would describe it,even if the case was proven for gun ownership as a necessary evil,to proudly pose as a family with children brandishing them,is obscene.
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby AslanTheKing on Thu May 15, 2014 5:13 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:Image


Duh. Thanks for trying to 'get me' by lambasting me with my own exact feelings on the matter. Getting our troops out of a large majority of those countries you list is something I have always supported and continue to support. Gotta start asking yourself why you thought you were pinning me down...... with my own opinions. ??? Go back to the drawing board and burn your sources. You are 0-4

My conclusion: Dear Aslan.... Your head is even further up your ass then I originally thought. You are a drone, and your thread sucks!


since u could not understand why people are concernd about america,
and yourself giving this - right to be concerned - only to citizens who have been born, lived, raised in america,
so i gave u my sincere answer, which u didnt like or didnt understand
you proved how small minded you are,
if i am a drone than u can only be a drudge ( pick the worst meaning of beeing a drudge)
but what proves your small mindedness more is your counting of points,
that means if u believe u scored 1 point, you would be ignorant of anything else and could not see an argument from
a different point of view, which would prove again that u are also a very stubborn person,
but it is up to you to analyze your characteristics, i would suggest u start a therapy and go way back into your childhood
to examine what went wrong there, since u have this desperate need to prove yourselve, and if u think i am an asshole
than so it will be, i can take that
i just try to understand when i touched your feelings

i stated that a teenager got shot to death , and it could have been prevented
i said that americans have too many guns- and some people should not own guns

so, what was your problem again?

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Long live the Army Of Kings !


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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby demonfork on Thu May 15, 2014 6:15 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
...My conclusion: Dear Aslan.... Your head is even further up your ass then I originally thought. You are a drone, and your thread sucks!


:lol:
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby demonfork on Thu May 15, 2014 6:18 pm

AslanTheKing wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:Image


Duh. Thanks for trying to 'get me' by lambasting me with my own exact feelings on the matter. Getting our troops out of a large majority of those countries you list is something I have always supported and continue to support. Gotta start asking yourself why you thought you were pinning me down...... with my own opinions. ??? Go back to the drawing board and burn your sources. You are 0-4

My conclusion: Dear Aslan.... Your head is even further up your ass then I originally thought. You are a drone, and your thread sucks!


since u could not understand why people are concernd about america,
and yourself giving this - right to be concerned - only to citizens who have been born, lived, raised in america,
so i gave u my sincere answer, which u didnt like or didnt understand
you proved how small minded you are,
if i am a drone than u can only be a drudge ( pick the worst meaning of beeing a drudge)
but what proves your small mindedness more is your counting of points,
that means if u believe u scored 1 point, you would be ignorant of anything else and could not see an argument from
a different point of view, which would prove again that u are also a very stubborn person,
but it is up to you to analyze your characteristics, i would suggest u start a therapy and go way back into your childhood
to examine what went wrong there, since u have this desperate need to prove yourselve, and if u think i am an asshole
than so it will be, i can take that
i just try to understand when i touched your feelings

i stated that a teenager got shot to death , and it could have been prevented
i said that americans have too many guns- and some people should not own guns

so, what was your problem again?

Click image to enlarge.
image




Phatty has already demonstrated with factual information that the "americans have too many guns" and everyone would be safer without guns, is a total fallacy.

Did you skip the part about "twice as many guns with half the rate of murder over the last 20 years in the USA"?
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby AslanTheKing on Fri May 16, 2014 6:11 am

1) DEMOGRAPHICS – The demographics of gun ownership clearly are evolving, and they don’t favor gun owners, who are predominantly older white males in rural parts of the South and Midwest. Probably the most important divergences are urban/rural, white/black-hispanic, male/female, and older/younger. Irreversible trend lines in the next 50 years do not favor gun owners, with the nation becoming more urban and less white, and with more young people growing up in an environment where there is no functional need to own a gun and where the idea of owning a gun seems weirder. Of course, guns are prevalent with certain groups of young people in inner cities, but gun ownership here is largely associated with gangs and drugs. Revamping our drug and incarceration policies to keep kids in school and out of jail and to remove the market incentives for illegal drug trafficking would likely make a big dent in this population of gun users/possessors. The general point, of course, is that the gun-owning population is likely to continue to shrink for demographic reasons.

2) PROTECTION – Interesting that the percentage who say they own a gun for protection has risen dramatically at the same time that crime has generally fallen dramatically. Suggests the protection argument is based less on reality and on actual probabilities than it is on a new sense of what constitutes a threat and how best to handle that threat, whether that threat is real or imagined. Guns give people the fantasy of control, not the reality of control, so to understand ownership obsession we need to understand what fantasies are at work. For example, there is a significant fear among whites of black youths. But most violence is geographically and specific, committed by black youths against other black youths, who more than likely know each other personally. This really removes any reasonable argument for stand-your-ground laws.

3) CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT – Most citizens of other nations feel no enormous need to own guns and their rate of gun violence is far lower than it is in the United States. American need to understand how far out of the global mainstream we are when it comes to our gun ownership obsession, and how weird and creepy it seems to people in other countries. Falling back on an abstract “Constitutional” or “God-given” right really is not useful. Most legal scholars would agree our Constitution, which is one of the oldest in existence, and and which has never had a fixed meaning but has always been in instrument of political conflict, is long-past due for an overhaul. Our 225-year old Constitution was drafted for a nation entirely different from the country in which we now live. As for our right to own guns being God-given, I think most people would agree that is simply a bizarre, virtually meaningless idea.

4) POLITICS – Probably the biggest obstacle to reasonable gun-control laws, akin at a minimum to the laws governing licensing cars and drivers, is the political tilt toward rural parts of the country within state legislatures, and to some degree in the U.S. Congress, which gives interests favoring extreme gun ownership rights disproportionate power to both legislate laws opening the floodgates to gun ownership and block laws that would enact even the mildest background check or gun safety provisions. Of course the other major source of influence in this debate, when one looks under the skirts of the NRA, is the firearms industry.

read all here
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/04/24/5-facts-about-the-nra-and-guns-in-america/
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby KoolBak on Fri May 16, 2014 9:03 am

You got a lot of free time on your hands....lol.

Germans have too many nice cars!! Fact!! THAT should be governmentally regulated.....
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Postby Dukasaur on Fri May 16, 2014 11:12 am

If you stole that from a copyrighted article, Aslan, you should post a link and correct attribution to either the original author or original website or both.
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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby mrswdk on Fri May 16, 2014 1:45 pm

Dukasaur wrote:If you stole that from a copyrighted article, Aslan, you should post a link and correct attribution to either the original author or original website or both.


Or he could just stick something saying 'My post is not associated with the original author of this work in any way' underneath, which usually does the trick for music uploaders on YouTube or this website.
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Postby KoolBak on Fri May 16, 2014 5:10 pm

:lol:
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Postby AslanTheKing on Fri May 16, 2014 6:09 pm



dont buy guns, buy a cat
or a lion
I used to roll the daizz
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Listen as the crowd would sing:

Long live the Army Of Kings !


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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby Phatscotty on Fri May 16, 2014 7:26 pm

AslanTheKing wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:Image


Duh. Thanks for trying to 'get me' by lambasting me with my own exact feelings on the matter. Getting our troops out of a large majority of those countries you list is something I have always supported and continue to support. Gotta start asking yourself why you thought you were pinning me down...... with my own opinions. ??? Go back to the drawing board and burn your sources. You are 0-4

My conclusion: Dear Aslan.... Your head is even further up your ass then I originally thought. You are a drone, and your thread sucks!


since u could not understand why people are concernd about america,
and yourself giving this - right to be concerned - only to citizens who have been born, lived, raised in america,
so i gave u my sincere answer, which u didnt like or didnt understand
you proved how small minded you are,
if i am a drone than u can only be a drudge ( pick the worst meaning of beeing a drudge)
but what proves your small mindedness more is your counting of points,
that means if u believe u scored 1 point, you would be ignorant of anything else and could not see an argument from
a different point of view, which would prove again that u are also a very stubborn person,
but it is up to you to analyze your characteristics, i would suggest u start a therapy and go way back into your childhood
to examine what went wrong there, since u have this desperate need to prove yourselve, and if u think i am an asshole
than so it will be, i can take that
i just try to understand when i touched your feelings

i stated that a teenager got shot to death , and it could have been prevented
i said that americans have too many guns- and some people should not own guns

so, what was your problem again?

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Re: Shame on you USA and your right to OWN guns

Postby Phatscotty on Fri May 16, 2014 7:26 pm

It's small minded for you to pretend like you know what it means to be an American, what we believe in, or what the 2nd Amendment means to Americans, and pompous to raise your nose at us like you are better, when I just showed you don't even know what you're talking about. I have a long tradition of not getting involved with international trolls. I said all I'm gonna say.
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