Israel Plans to Restore Death Penalty for Everyone but Jews

[saxitoxin]

Everyone hates Israel.

agreed

[riskllama]

I don't hate Israel.

[Metsfanmax]

Maybe new Pope is real Antichrist

Israel seems to be the only topic left in the year 2015 where one side's entire argument is based on a serious belief that a fire-breathing monster could suddenly appear. I love these guys!

Are you even watching Game of Thrones

[tzor]

Israel seems to be the only topic left in the year 2015 where one side's entire argument is based on a serious belief that a fire-breathing monster could suddenly appear. I love these guys!

I don't recall where it says that the Mahdi would breathe fire. Lots of fire, but not the breathing part.

[Dukasaur]

Israel seems to be the only topic left in the year 2015 where one side's entire argument is based on a serious belief that a fire-breathing monster could suddenly appear. I love these guys!

I don't recall where it says that the Mahdi would breathe fire. Lots of fire, but not the breathing part.

Well played!

[Endgame422]

Hey tzor i finally rolled in here and read your time lord fallacy bit.
Thing is i agree so we can only compare the 2 in their current state.
Although the Israelis could take a page from USA and give the Palestinians all kinds of perks/welfare to appease them(and undermine their cultural identity) while keeping the land anyways.
That could work.

[saxitoxin]

Abu Mazen Made a Knight of the Holy See; Palestinian Nuns to be Saints!

One-upping his last-week formalization of the recognition of the sovereign and independent State of Palestine, His Holiness today received SoP president Mahmoud Abbas in the Vatican and invested him into the Order of Saint Sylvester the Martyr, one of the five orders of knighthood of the Holy See. The Holy Father then announced plans to elevate two Palestinian nuns to saints. The 100% ethnically Palestinian saints to which all Catholics will owe obeisances will be known as Saint Mariam and Saint Marie.

The BBC's David Willey in Rome says that after 20 minutes of private talks, Pope Francis gave Mr Abbas the medallion depicting an angel of peace adding: "It is appropriate because you are an angel of peace." The Vatican's move also comes amid growing momentum to recognise Palestinian statehood.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32769752

Right on cue, the Zionist lunatics started their howls of feigned outrage and bombastic anti-Christian attacks on the Vicar of Jesus Christ and Servant of the Servants of God. But, like the boy who cried wolf, as their cries get louder and more predictable, so too do they become harder for anyone to hear. And soon, by hook or by crook, they will be silenced forever.

[saxitoxin]

The official, church-owned Catholic News Service has recently increased the volume and pace of their typically excellent reporting on atrocities committed by the Israeli barbarians. A great story today covered more of the Zionist starvation tactics against Palestinian women and children.

Israel retains control of its security and civil land-management, practically prohibiting any Palestinian construction and development. Many of the water sources in the area are largely put to service for the approximate 10,000 Israeli settlers living in the area. The 60,000 Palestinians of the Jordan Valley, as seen in the three villages, are denied access to much of the areas' water sources and are forced to purchase water at a high price over the summer months when their winter reserves run out.

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/storie ... 502113.htm

It is great to be alive to witness the full power of the Roman Curia being slowly, quietly mobilized against Israel!

[tzor]

Personally I think the whole Palestine problem is a load of manure. The average Palestinian is being swindled by their leaders (but then again they are not unique in this problem). What are you fighting for? The land? Seriously, the only place in the Middle East where THERE IS NO OIL? I Was born on Long Island, moved to Key West for a while, and the only reason I'm back on Long Island was that was how my life took me. It has nothing to do with the "Land." Unlike the "Jews" no one ever promised you that land. If the Jews were to disappear overnight do you think you would get the land? No, your fellow Islamic neighbors would beat you to the punch in a heartbeat. If they cared for you they wouldn't be putting so many of you in refugee camps in their own national borders. (Imagine if we did the same to Mexican immigrants?)

Now some occasionally talk about the holy site in Jerusalem. I wonder how many of them make the proper pilgrimage to Mecca as their religion demands. Perhaps if you weren't so supporting of trying to kill Jews (and ironically burning down Christian holy sites) people may allow you admittance into your holy sites.

Jerusalem is about 125.1 km². Vatican city is less than a half a km². If it's good enough for Roman Catholics, it's all the amount of land you need in Jerusalem as well.

I think everyone would be better served if you (and everyone in the camps) could just move somewhere else. I hear that they are still doing massive construction projects in China for cities that would never be occupied. I mean a population of under 5 million people should be easily able to find some nice prime real estate on Planet Earth. (Add an additional one million for those in the camps.) New York City has a population of 8 million.

Why you could have Long Island if you promised three things.

You must love the potato with all your heart and all your appetite. (Pretty sure it's halal.)
You must promise to restore the duck farms back to the island. (Double checked and it's definitely halal.)
Please don't burn down the old wooden windmills, they are not religious symbols, but we have put a lot of work in keeping them from falling apart.

[saxitoxin]

Personally I think the whole Palestine problem is a load of manure. The average Palestinian is being swindled by their leaders (but then again they are not unique in this problem). What are you fighting for? The land? Seriously, the only place in the Middle East where THERE IS NO OIL? I Was born on Long Island, moved to Key West for a while, and the only reason I'm back on Long Island was that was how my life took me. It has nothing to do with the "Land." Unlike the "Jews" no one ever promised you that land. If the Jews were to disappear overnight do you think you would get the land? No, your fellow Islamic neighbors would beat you to the punch in a heartbeat. If they cared for you they wouldn't be putting so many of you in refugee camps in their own national borders. (Imagine if we did the same to Mexican immigrants?)

Now some occasionally talk about the holy site in Jerusalem. I wonder how many of them make the proper pilgrimage to Mecca as their religion demands. Perhaps if you weren't so supporting of trying to kill Jews (and ironically burning down Christian holy sites) people may allow you admittance into your holy sites.

Jerusalem is about 125.1 km². Vatican city is less than a half a km². If it's good enough for Roman Catholics, it's all the amount of land you need in Jerusalem as well.

I think everyone would be better served if you (and everyone in the camps) could just move somewhere else. I hear that they are still doing massive construction projects in China for cities that would never be occupied. I mean a population of under 5 million people should be easily able to find some nice prime real estate on Planet Earth. (Add an additional one million for those in the camps.) New York City has a population of 8 million.

Why you could have Long Island if you promised three things.

You must love the potato with all your heart and all your appetite. (Pretty sure it's halal.)
You must promise to restore the duck farms back to the island. (Double checked and it's definitely halal.)
Please don't burn down the old wooden windmills, they are not religious symbols, but we have put a lot of work in keeping them from falling apart.

So, to summarize, you believe the Holy Father is a deluded lunatic, you support the anti-Christian rhetoric being spewed out by the Israeli hate machine, and you have faith in anonymous blogs written by internet randos but take an a la carte approach to papal encyclicals and policies developed by the experts in the Roman Curia.

You have taken the first, brave steps down a path that usually ends with ecclesiastical interdiction, excommunication, conversion, or apostasy. I wish you luck in your journey.

[mrswdk]

How do you fit 15 Jews in a taxi?

[tzor]

So, to summarize, you believe the Holy Father is a deluded lunatic, you support the anti-Christian rhetoric being spewed out by the Israeli hate machine, and you have faith in anonymous blogs written by internet randos but take an a la carte approach to papal encyclicals and policies developed by the experts in the Roman Curia.

To summarize, you are a anti-Semitic hate filled liar who loves to twist the words of everyone, including Pope Francis I, in order to promote your disguised pogrom in the Middle East. Francis' position has always been consistent, "Can you two just GET ALONG?" Last year he held a meeting with both sides at the Vatican.

In a strongly worded speech, Francis told his guests the event was a “great sign of brotherhood which you offer as children of Abraham,” and blamed the failure of talks to date on the devil, claiming, “More than once we have been on the verge of peace, but the evil one, employing a variety of means, has succeeded in blocking it.”

I'm sure you want to jump up and down and say "It's all Jews fault," but that was not what the Holy Father was saying. People often misquote the Pope. Consider the following: Pope Francis Did Not Call Abbas an ‘Angel of Peace’

But they couldn’t be more wrong. Here is the account of Pope Francis’s remarks by the Vatican reporter for La Stampa, an Italian newspaper:

As is tradition with heads of State or of government, Francis presented a gift to the Palestinian leader, commenting: “May the angel of peace destroy the evil spirit of war. I thought of you: May you be an angel of peace.” Pope Francis had called Abu Mazen a “man of peace” when he visited Bethlehem in May 2014, just as he called the then Israeli prime minister, Shimon Peres, a “man of peace” during his subsequent visit to Jerusalem. The Argentinian pope had then invited both leaders to a prayer vigil for peace in the Vatican Gardens which took place on 8 June that year and was also attended by the ecumenical patriarch of Constantinople, Bartholomew.

To be clear, his statements to the Palestinian Authority president were a reminder of Abbas’s obligation to become a channel of peace, not praise for Abbas’s ethereal personality. This distinction is one of intent, and that is crucial in this discussion.

Oh, and that gift he gave Abbas? A copy of the Holy See’s own Evangelii Gaudium. In it, Pope Francis explains: “We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked. . . . Dialogue and friendship with the children of Israel are part of the life of Jesus’ disciples.”

Pope Francis knows what’s in the book he wrote. He is the leader of a faith that, as a rule, requires deep ecclesiastical justification for even the simplest gesture, so one can’t help but think that the pope’s gift to Abbas was unmistakably purposeful: Perhaps he meant it to demonstrate Catholicism’s admiration for Jews and Israel.

I'm sorry SATAN, your lying tongue has no effect on me. BEGONE to the depths of wherever it is you come from.

[saxitoxin]

I'm sorry SATAN, your lying tongue has no effect on me. BEGONE to the depths of wherever it is you come from.

A typically rational rebuttal from the fringe extremist camp; sounds like it could have been penned by Netanyahu himself. I wonder if there's anyone in the world who supports the Israeli cause other than religious fundies and nutters scared about a man in red tights with a pitchfork? Thankfully the moderates in the Vatican support what only magic-believing racists like tzor and Netanyahu have been howling opposition to; to quote the official Catholic News Service 3 years ago:

The Vatican praised a United Nations vote making Palestine a non-member observer state but called for full recognition of Palestinian sovereignty as necessary for peace in the region. In the West Bank, church bells rang out as the announcement of the U.N. decision was made.

TLDR - Rational, intelligent people who don't believe magic is a real thing support Palestine. People, like tzor, who believe they have a collection of magic spells and incantations they can use to ward off evil demons and monsters that are hiding under their bed, tend to support Israel.

[tzor]

And some people once thought democracy in Iraq would be a great thing.

Well, of course ... but getting there ... that's the rub. The United Nations has always been a problem with people from Vatican City. They generally don't notice how the most corrupt of all nations tend to desire positions of "moral" authority. (In a similar manner they were caught completely off guard as to the notion that sexual predators might want to become priests. And I suppose the Vatican Bank scandal is another prime example.) Then they act with surprise when such bodies start making decisions that are completely at odds with the moral teaching of the Church.

[saxitoxin]

And some people once thought democracy in Iraq would be a great thing.

Well, of course ... but getting there ... that's the rub. The United Nations has always been a problem with people from Vatican City. They generally don't notice how the most corrupt of all nations tend to desire positions of "moral" authority. (In a similar manner they were caught completely off guard as to the notion that sexual predators might want to become priests. And I suppose the Vatican Bank scandal is another prime example.) Then they act with surprise when such bodies start making decisions that are completely at odds with the moral teaching of the Church.

Thank you for not using a magic spell, or referring to supernatural monsters, in your latest response to this real estate dispute.

[tzor]

Thank you for not using a magic spell, or referring to supernatural monsters, in your latest response to this real estate dispute.

And thank you for not using your typical recycled anti-Semitic Nazi inspired hate literature in your latest response.

[saxitoxin]

Thank you for not using a magic spell, or referring to supernatural monsters, in your latest response to this real estate dispute.

[warmonger1981]

So your saying the Kabbalah is magic?

[saxitoxin]

So your saying the Kabbalah is magic?

- So we have Typical Israel Supporter #1, warmonger, who says the Pope is the Anti-Christ, a 10,000 year-old winged, fired-breathing monster, who has materialized in human form and secretly seized control of the Catholic Church to push them to support the Palestinian cause.

- And we have Typical Israel Supporter #2, tzor, who says the Pope is not the Anti-Christ but has been misquoted as supporting the Palestinian cause by a global conspiracy of newspaper editors who, presumably, meet in a secret lair somewhere.

Why don't you two get your stories straight and then come back? I'm sure whatever you can come up with as a team will be even more hilarious than what you've managed as solo acts.

[saxitoxin]

Good news!

The Guardian has published an open letter signed by many of the world's leading intellectuals calling for FIFA delegates to support a proposal to expel the Israeli Football Association that will be presented at the upcoming FIFA congress. It's important Israel be isolated, humiliated, de-legitimized, and made to appear aberrant or unusual in every aspect of its national cultural life. Having a football team ineligible for international competition is a great step in that direction.

[The IFA] has racially segregated part of its national children’s league, incurring legal action. It has never once disciplined Beitar Jerusalem FC for that club’s longstanding apparent ban on the hiring of Arab players, or taken serious action to curb the notorious anti-Arab violence of its supporters. Two years of diplomacy have failed to secure change, and Fifa must now take punitive action in defence of its humanitarian ethos. Its 30-year exclusion of South Africa from its ranks provides a precedent for the action that is required.

A small sampling of those signing the letter:

- Baroness Tonge of Kew - life peer in the House of Lords
- Ronnie Kasrils - former Minister of Intelligence and Security of South Africa
- Noam Chomsky - professor emeritus, MIT; recipient of Sydney Peace Prize and 32 honorary doctorates
- Richard A. Falk - professor emeritus of international law at Princeton
- Michael Mansfield - professor of law at City University of London
- John Berger - recipient of the Booker Prize
- Rodney Bickerstaffe - president of UNISON UK trade union
- John Pilger - columnist for New Statesman
- Dame Miriam Margolyes - actress ("Professor Sproul" in Harry Potter) and officer of the Order of the British Empire
- Ken Loach - Palme d'Or recipient for documentary film
- Rev Garth Hewitt - Guild Vicar of All Hallows on the Wall and Honorary Canon of St George of Jerusalem
- Msgr Bruce Kent - formerly monisgnor of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Westminster

[riskllama]

i didn't know they had a team. aren't jews supposed to be horrendously bad @ sports?

[2dimes]

i didn't know they had a team. aren't jews supposed to be horrendously bad @ sports?

They used to dominate basket ball in the thirties or something.

[saxitoxin]

i didn't know they had a team. aren't jews supposed to be horrendously bad @ sports?

There have been many great Hebrew athletes. Here, I made a list:

1. Abe Saperstein (basketball-ish)
2. Metsfanmax (fantasy baseball)

[riskllama]

israel wasn't a country in the 30's, 2dimes...

[Metsfanmax]

i didn't know they had a team. aren't jews supposed to be horrendously bad @ sports?

There have been many great Hebrew athletes. Here, I made a list:

1. Abe Saperstein (basketball-ish)
2. Metsfanmax (fantasy baseball)

We've also got Sandy Koufax.

...That's about it.