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Re: Paris

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:47 am

Now is the time for support and aid.

It is not the time for judgement or argument.
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Re: Paris

Postby Tviorr on Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:52 am

I came in here to write my condolences to France and Paris, so I will refrain from commenting further on the people treating this as their personal venue for bullshit.


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Re: Paris

Postby GoranZ on Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:03 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Now is the time for support and aid.

It is not the time for judgement or argument.

There are 4-5 million potential Islamic terrorist in France, what kind of support you are referring to?
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Re: Paris

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:19 am

GoranZ wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Now is the time for support and aid.

It is not the time for judgement or argument.

There are 4-5 million potential Islamic terrorist muslims in France, what kind of support you are referring to?


Take your bigoted views elsewhere
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Re: Paris

Postby Mishalex on Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:13 am

GoranZ wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Now is the time for support and aid.

It is not the time for judgement or argument.

There are 4-5 million potential Islamic terrorist in France, what kind of support you are referring to?

What a fucking BS are you saying ? Don't make short cut as this one, it's horrible ! Stay unite, don't divide !
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Re: Paris

Postby mrswdk on Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:20 am

As a resident of London, now extra glad that the government ignored the bum f*ck prime minister and voted down intervention in Syria.

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Re: Paris

Postby JBlombier on Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:27 am

DoomYoshi wrote:In all seriousness though, this is why you need an armed populace. Throwing baguettes at people is a useless defense. If you don't have concealed carry, you deserve to die in terrorist attacks.

So you say that all the victims deserved to die, in all seriousness? Just wanna know how serious I have to take you from now on.
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Re: Paris

Postby waauw on Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:50 am

They should keep bombing ISIS. The fact of the matter is, yes they should've never armed the region, but what is done is done now. If they stop bombing now and supporting those fighting ISIS, that cancer will only grow. Stop bombing raids now and ISIS will have won and gotten what they wanted.

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Re: Paris

Postby GoranZ on Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:00 am

JBlombier wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:In all seriousness though, this is why you need an armed populace. Throwing baguettes at people is a useless defense. If you don't have concealed carry, you deserve to die in terrorist attacks.

So you say that all the victims deserved to die, in all seriousness? Just wanna know how serious I have to take you from now on.

He is Canadian... different opinion about weapons on the other side of the pond. Its one way of solving the problem but I prefer different way.

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GoranZ wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Now is the time for support and aid.

It is not the time for judgement or argument.

There are 4-5 million potential Islamic terrorist in France, what kind of support you are referring to?

What a fucking BS are you saying ? Don't make short cut as this one, it's horrible ! Stay unite, don't divide !

Last week Russian plane with 224 victims, this week 160(hopefully) in Paris... Maybe its time for Islamist worshipers to experience the same with inproportional ratio.
Expels half a million Muslim believers(start with those that are more radical and their families) and give a hint to the remaining ones what will happen if there is another attack.

You want support, here it is... France to non Muslim French people.
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Re: Paris

Postby the white rose on Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:01 am

about time the west took off the gloves, we know the strongholds of these bastards, lets just drop a fucking nuke on the whole area for everytime they do something like this. never mind trying to execute the odd terrorist with drones, a huge bomb on their stronghold kill thousands of them, then they may think again about messing with the west
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Re: Paris

Postby GoranZ on Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:02 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Now is the time for support and aid.

It is not the time for judgement or argument.

There are 4-5 million potential Islamic terrorist muslims in France, what kind of support you are referring to?


Take your bigoted views elsewhere

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Re: Paris

Postby waauw on Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:06 am

the white rose wrote:about time the west took off the gloves, we know the strongholds of these bastards, lets just drop a fucking nuke on the whole area for everytime they do something like this. never mind trying to execute the odd terrorist with drones, a huge bomb on their stronghold kill thousands of them, then they may think again about messing with the west


I'm all for annihilating ISIS, but this is a bit extreme. It's exact same mentality Israel has and look where Israel is now.
Personally I'd prefer a cooperation with Assad, though still backing moderate rebels. Better to pick the lesser evil between Assad and ISIS if you want to resolve the conflict quickly.
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Re: Paris

Postby the white rose on Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:20 am

waauw wrote:
the white rose wrote:about time the west took off the gloves, we know the strongholds of these bastards, lets just drop a fucking nuke on the whole area for everytime they do something like this. never mind trying to execute the odd terrorist with drones, a huge bomb on their stronghold kill thousands of them, then they may think again about messing with the west


I'm all for annihilating ISIS, but this is a bit extreme. It's exact same mentality Israel has and look where Israel is now.
Personally I'd prefer a cooperation with Assad, though still backing moderate rebels. Better to pick the lesser evil between Assad and ISIS if you want to resolve the conflict quickly.


Israel is but one tiny country in the middle of loads of arab countries and yet survives well by its tactics.

Hollande today declared this as an act of war, the last major war was settled with 2 nuclear bombs, about time we stood up to isis and said enough is enough. and officially declare war on them....After Hiroshama no more americans were killed. Bullies do not like it when people fight back, we could fight back and give isis more than just a bloody nose.

or are you suggesting we should wait until isis gain access to wmd's? God help us all, lets deal with the threat once and for all right now.
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Re: Paris

Postby mrswdk on Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:22 am

Hollande has already declared war on ISIS, as evidenced by his bombing runs against them in Syria. Do you want him to declare 'double war' against them or something?
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Re: Paris

Postby the white rose on Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:43 am

mrswdk wrote:Hollande has already declared war on ISIS, as evidenced by his bombing runs against them in Syria. Do you want him to declare 'double war' against them or something?


yep, what a turn around to ww2.....standard joke used to be what is the difference between a frenchman and a chinaman? chinaman is yellow on the outside......as france surrendered to the germans without a single bomb being dropped on paris.

now its UK who are yellow, come on, lets declare isis held grounds as our testing ground for our trident missiles....no point in having them if we will not defend ourselves with them
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Re: Paris

Postby mrswdk on Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:52 am

the white rose wrote:standard joke used to be what is the difference between a frenchman and a chinaman? chinaman is yellow on the outside


lol

now its UK who are yellow, come on, lets declare isis held grounds as our testing ground for our trident missiles....no point in having them if we will not defend ourselves with them


Don't really see why it's 'cowardly' to decide that a war thousands of miles away from you is none of your business.
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Re: Paris

Postby the white rose on Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:55 am

well its a bloody good job the americans did not think the same way in 1940

they make it our business when they chop off heads belonging to people who only go there to help the unfortunate syrian victims that isis does not care a fig for
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Re: Paris

Postby mrswdk on Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:59 am

the white rose wrote:well its a bloody good job the americans did not think the same way in 1940


Think you'll find they did :lol:

America didn't enter WW2 until 1941
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Re: Paris

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:06 am

mrswdk wrote:
the white rose wrote:well its a bloody good job the americans did not think the same way in 1940


Think you'll find they did :lol:

America didn't enter WW2 until 1941

Full-scale subsidies for the Chinese Army began in January 1940.
Arms shipments to Britain under Lend-Lease began in September 1940.
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Re: Paris

Postby mrswdk on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:12 am

Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
the white rose wrote:well its a bloody good job the americans did not think the same way in 1940


Think you'll find they did :lol:

America didn't enter WW2 until 1941

Full-scale subsidies for the Chinese Army began in January 1940.
Arms shipments to Britain under Lend-Lease began in September 1940.


Oh, okay.

Either way America got involved in the European and Asian wars because it had a vested interest in getting involved. Show me the UK's vested interest in Syria and maybe our northern friend has a point.
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Re: Paris

Postby mrswdk on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:17 am

I'd also dispute the philanthropic role of the US in Asia pre-1941, given that America was Japan's principal supplier of oil, steel and other commodities it needed to support its war effort against China and other countries in the region.
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Re: Paris

Postby the white rose on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:28 am

Uk as a nation has not attacked Syria, however, they have on numerous occasions killed our citizens, that gives us the interest.

Besides, we do not act as one nation, but as NATO, allied both to our american and european allies. An attack on our allies is akin to an attack on us.

NATO and the UN have a duty to world peace, isis is a threat to world peace and needs to be eliminated. Only way to do that is for the entire west to bomb the shit out of them until they are no more. We are far more powerful than them, about time we showed them that we will not sit back and allow them to commit these sort of atrocities without them experiencing our wrath.....one or two well placed tridents will sort them out once and for all
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Re: Paris

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:42 am

the white rose wrote:Uk as a nation has not attacked Syria, however, they have on numerous occasions killed our citizens, that gives us the interest.

Besides, we do not act as one nation, but as NATO, allied both to our american and european allies. An attack on our allies is akin to an attack on us.

NATO and the UN have a duty to world peace, isis is a threat to world peace and needs to be eliminated. Only way to do that is for the entire west to bomb the shit out of them until they are no more. We are far more powerful than them, about time we showed them that we will not sit back and allow them to commit these sort of atrocities without them experiencing our wrath.....one or two well placed tridents will sort them out once and for all


Stop the "TRUMP" , "Bomb them back to the stone age" crap.

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We will not kill civilians just because we have bigots saying Muslims and/or Arabs are all evil. Unfortunetly, in all conflicts, innocent civilians get killed, but we must do everything to avoid this. OR, we become just as evil as the terrorists that we are fighting.

Believe it or not, people from all ethnic and religious backgrounds want peace and they want their children to live in peace and to prosper. We don't need uneducated assholes inflaming the situation with trash talk.
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Re: Paris

Postby mrswdk on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:45 am

the white rose wrote:Uk as a nation has not attacked Syria, however, they have on numerous occasions killed our citizens, that gives us the interest.


The British government could just tell its citizens not to go to Syria.
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Re: Paris

Postby the white rose on Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:18 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:
the white rose wrote:Uk as a nation has not attacked Syria, however, they have on numerous occasions killed our citizens, that gives us the interest.

Besides, we do not act as one nation, but as NATO, allied both to our american and european allies. An attack on our allies is akin to an attack on us.

NATO and the UN have a duty to world peace, isis is a threat to world peace and needs to be eliminated. Only way to do that is for the entire west to bomb the shit out of them until they are no more. We are far more powerful than them, about time we showed them that we will not sit back and allow them to commit these sort of atrocities without them experiencing our wrath.....one or two well placed tridents will sort them out once and for all


Stop the "TRUMP" , "Bomb them back to the stone age" crap.

We will not kill civilians just because we have bigots saying Muslims and/or Arabs are all evil. Unfortunetly, in all conflicts, innocent civilians get killed, but we must do everything to avoid this. OR, we become just as evil as the terrorists that we are fighting.


I know many muslims who are just as appalled at isis as the rest of the world is, nowhere have i said or would even suggest that all muslims are terrorists, 99.9% of them are peace loving people.

We can post notice that we will nuke isis strongholds and welcome every single civilian refugee that wants to get out. It might sound evil, but blessing them and praying for their salvation doesn't seem to work. Evil in the world whereever it tries to hide should be eliminated by whatever means are necessary.

Any country that harbours these criminals are an enemy of humanity and should be treated as such.
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