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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby owenshooter on Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:24 pm

WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:7730 ACB


6840 BCB

where is this number from? we are currently at 7,436...-JƩsus noir
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby ronsizzle on Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:30 pm

owenshooter wrote:
WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:7730 ACB


6840 BCB

where is this number from? we are currently at 7,436...-JƩsus noir



it is the number of men your mother is currently fucking...she is too busy with cc to continue her wilt chamberlain lifestyle.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby BoganGod on Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:27 am

ronc8649 wrote:
owenshooter wrote:
WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:7730 ACB


6840 BCB

where is this number from? we are currently at 7,436...-JƩsus noir



it is the number of men your mother is currently fuckinggoing above and beyond in reaching customer satisfaction benchmarks...she is too busy with cc to continue her wilt chamberlain lifestyle.


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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:26 am

owenshooter wrote:
WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:7730 ACB


6840 BCB

where is this number from? we are currently at 7,436...-JƩsus noir


It's what the number would be had the books not been cooked.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby owenshooter on Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:54 am

WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
owenshooter wrote:
WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:7730 ACB


6840 BCB

where is this number from? we are currently at 7,436...-JƩsus noir


It's what the number would be had the books not been cooked.


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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby ConfederateSS on Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:33 am

-------Yes, as stated 20 pages ago or so. Still cooking. The Home Page still lists over 600,000 players. ;) Also stated but never changed. It might be a good thing though. They might have changed(cooked) it to a 1,000,000 players. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). :D
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Army of GOD on Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:17 pm

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby stringybeany on Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:09 am

all right, someone please xplain what this "cooked books" bitis all about.
btw the current full score leaderboard is at 7486
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby ConfederateSS on Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:42 am

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keyborn wrote:10526... :shock:

Over 1100 new members in the last 24 hours??? I highly doubt it.... Something smells fishy on the full scoreboard page.


yeah, your number is bunk.

someone took it upon themselves to add all the new recruits that have not finished a game to the list. despite what it says at the top of the scorecard.

The scoreboard is updated every hour. Only players that have taken a turn within the past 30 days are listed. New Recruits are listed once they have finished a game. If you are not familiar with the ranks, they are described in the "Instructions" section.


we'll see what comes of this. till then the real number is 9224. which is the amount of players that have at least one game completed.


It is not my number, it is CC's, which means their number is bunk. Like I said, something smells fishy. Why are the new recruits without one completed game added to the total now (if in reality that is the reason for the spectacular jump of 1100+ members)? This just inflates the real number and is an attempt to disguise the rapid decline in active members.

------Quit asking String and go back and read. Like page 83/84...Thanks to Key and Willie...Proofs in the pudding... Then more High Command Mouth Pieces trying to cover their trickery. :lol: ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... :D
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby stringybeany on Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:45 am

ConfederateSS wrote:
keyborn wrote:
WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
keyborn wrote:10526... :shock:

Over 1100 new members in the last 24 hours??? I highly doubt it.... Something smells fishy on the full scoreboard page.


yeah, your number is bunk.

someone took it upon themselves to add all the new recruits that have not finished a game to the list. despite what it says at the top of the scorecard.

The scoreboard is updated every hour. Only players that have taken a turn within the past 30 days are listed. New Recruits are listed once they have finished a game. If you are not familiar with the ranks, they are described in the "Instructions" section.


we'll see what comes of this. till then the real number is 9224. which is the amount of players that have at least one game completed.


It is not my number, it is CC's, which means their number is bunk. Like I said, something smells fishy. Why are the new recruits without one completed game added to the total now (if in reality that is the reason for the spectacular jump of 1100+ members)? This just inflates the real number and is an attempt to disguise the rapid decline in active members.

------Quit asking String and go back and read. Like page 83/84...Thanks to Key and Willie...Proofs in the pudding... Then more High Command Mouth Pieces trying to cover their trickery. :lol: ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... :D


hey thanks for the lead to the appropriate pages. Yes I was too lazy to search all 105!
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby stringybeany on Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:53 am

hehe yeah got it. there are several pages of new recruits with no completed games.

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby ConfederateSS on Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:54 am

------Your welcome...The Blue and Silver Rebellion is always happy to help. ;) Tip of the cap...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... :D
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:58 am

stringybeany wrote:hehe yeah got it. there are several pages of new recruits with no completed games.

tx.

There have always been several pages of new recruits with no completed games, right back to the beginning of CC.

The difference is that in the past, points changed hands in all games, so those got automatically posted to the scoreboard. Nowadays, most of those are guide games or bot games where no points change hands. Thus, the code had to be altered to count those games.

The people peddling the "cooked books" nonsense are trying to pretend that this represents some nefarious conspiracy, but in fact its the only accurate way to count it. The Scoreboard has always been defined as "Only players that have taken a turn within the past 30 days are listed." It doesn't say anything about "only players who lost points in the last 30 days." This is the correct count by the definition; what was happening before the correction was wrong.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:29 am

Back to the original topic. It does seem to me as if CC is declining. The forums seem dominated by a few intent on basically trolling anyone who does not share their personal opinion. That is, insulting, not debating those who disagree. Opinions seem pretty extreme and those posting seem far less willing to even consider other ideas. I see a lot of folks are just absent and even some I remember as being adept at honest debating have lapsed into extreme diatribes. (and, of course, accuse me of all that)

Game-wise, I think things gave just gotten too complicated. The number of people who grew up with and remember playing a particular strategy game we shall not name is getting slimmer, so relying upon that as a search is no longer applicable, even aside from the fact that this site has gone well beyond the original idea(s). For newer players, without any idea in advance, this site can be pretty daunting.

I would like to see some kind of categorization. I tried to make a list some time ago... it might still be around, but it would no longer be applicable. Also, folks did not seem to like my categories.

Also, I think CC needs some kind of advertisement. I am not sure how or where, but CC needs to reach those players who still are interested in older-style back and forth strategy games (as opposed to newer facebook, fancy scenario type games). That is, game where the strategy, not the "fluff" are the real pull. This will certainly include those of us who grew up playing board games, but should include a way to attract newer players.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby iAmCaffeine on Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:50 am

PLAYER57832 wrote:Back to the original topic. It does seem to me as if CC is declining. The forums seem dominated by a few intent on basically trolling anyone who does not share their personal opinion. That is, insulting, not debating those who disagree. Opinions seem pretty extreme and those posting seem far less willing to even consider other ideas. I see a lot of folks are just absent and even some I remember as being adept at honest debating have lapsed into extreme diatribes. (and, of course, accuse me of all that)

That mostly applies to the off topic section, which is a shit hole of opinionated, ever-inflating egos where they just stroke each other's e-peens and argue for the sake of it with no valid point.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:20 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
stringybeany wrote:hehe yeah got it. there are several pages of new recruits with no completed games.

tx.

There have always been several pages of new recruits with no completed games, right back to the beginning of CC.

The difference is that in the past, points changed hands in all games, so those got automatically posted to the scoreboard. Nowadays, most of those are guide games or bot games where no points change hands. Thus, the code had to be altered to count those games.

The people peddling the "cooked books" nonsense are trying to pretend that this represents some nefarious conspiracy, but in fact its the only accurate way to count it. The Scoreboard has always been defined as "Only players that have taken a turn within the past 30 days are listed." It doesn't say anything about "only players who lost points in the last 30 days." This is the correct count by the definition; what was happening before the correction was wrong.


Dont leave out the initial statement on the main scoreboard page. Says something like win points to move up the scoreboard.

So when a player plays a hundred games, and manages to stay at say 934 points, how do you think it makes him feel to be below someone who played a single bot game. Or a guide game. Would make me kind of irritated. We all know what a "scoreboard" is for. You act like this point is not legitimate. I guess because this must have been your idea or something.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:07 pm

WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
stringybeany wrote:hehe yeah got it. there are several pages of new recruits with no completed games.

tx.

There have always been several pages of new recruits with no completed games, right back to the beginning of CC.

The difference is that in the past, points changed hands in all games, so those got automatically posted to the scoreboard. Nowadays, most of those are guide games or bot games where no points change hands. Thus, the code had to be altered to count those games.

The people peddling the "cooked books" nonsense are trying to pretend that this represents some nefarious conspiracy, but in fact its the only accurate way to count it. The Scoreboard has always been defined as "Only players that have taken a turn within the past 30 days are listed." It doesn't say anything about "only players who lost points in the last 30 days." This is the correct count by the definition; what was happening before the correction was wrong.


Dont leave out the initial statement on the main scoreboard page. Says something like win points to move up the scoreboard.

So when a player plays a hundred games, and manages to stay at say 934 points, how do you think it makes him feel to be below someone who played a single bot game. Or a guide game. Would make me kind of irritated. We all know what a "scoreboard" is for. You act like this point is not legitimate. I guess because this must have been your idea or something.

No, wasn't my idea, but once I understood it I agreed with it.

As for the player who plays 100 games and stays at 934 points, he presumably knows that he still has a lot to learn and will need to adjust his strategy to get above 1000. That's no more and no less true when players come in and play one bot game than when players come in and play one live game.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby waauw on Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:21 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:Back to the original topic. It does seem to me as if CC is declining. The forums seem dominated by a few intent on basically trolling anyone who does not share their personal opinion. That is, insulting, not debating those who disagree. Opinions seem pretty extreme and those posting seem far less willing to even consider other ideas. I see a lot of folks are just absent and even some I remember as being adept at honest debating have lapsed into extreme diatribes. (and, of course, accuse me of all that)

That mostly applies to the off topic section, which is a shit hole of opinionated, ever-inflating egos where they just stroke each other's e-peens and argue for the sake of it with no valid point.


And the insulting ensues... Way to go hypocrit. :sick:
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby ConfederateSS on Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:23 am

ConfederateSS wrote:-----I see, in the past. It would be based on the online users over the past 5 minutes. It is now for online users over the past 15 minutes. WOW, numbers are being rigged all over the place now. :roll: I wonder how long till the online user number hits 99. 4,000,3,000,or 2,000 on the scoreboard. ;) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).

------I wrote that on May 15th.....
------So I guess their using Fred Flintstone Sun Dial watches,and it's cloudy. What other reason could excuse the changing of such a pointless number. Unless they are trying to make it look like more people are online. Hell,make it 30min.,or an hour. See how lively the active user base gets.
------Back around the cooked books posts,6 months ago. People brought up the number on the home page. Over 600,000 players. Talk about cooked numbers. STILL THAT NUMBER SITS ON THE HOME PAGE,not OVER 7,000 active players. I guess their excuse will be,593,000 players are taking on Bots and Guides. You have to love the OLD BAIT and SWITCH TACTIC. I CALL IT SMOKE and MIRRORS. ;) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). ****GOOD NEWS THOUGH,OUR TOTAL MEMBERSHIP BASE IS ABOUT TO HIT 720,000(bottom of the Forum page) ... =D> =D> =D>****
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby ConfederateSS on Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:36 am

ConfederateSS wrote:-----The bottom's falling out. But I have noticed when online. It used to be 180 to 250 online users on weekdays. 350 to 500 on weekends. As the core base is shrinking. The past few weeks. As we get closer to 7,000 on the scoreboard. The number of online users at any given time has gone up. 200 to 300 on weekdays. 400 to 600 on weekends. This past Sunday at 11:37 am CCT/EST US time. We reached 610 users. When we hit 5,000 on the scoreboard. It looks like the loyal users online will hit a 1,000 on the weekends. Weird? I know about the login save. But when you leave CC or are Idle for 10/15 min. Your online status goes away. So that's not it. Otherwise we would have 8,000 plus online users all the time. You think as more leave ,the number of online users would drop below a 100. :shock: ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).

-------This is what I wrote back in May. As I looked into it. I saw the switch from 5min. to 15min. on the active online user base. :o ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Serbia on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:24 am

PLAYER57832 wrote:Back to the original topic. It does seem to me as if CC is declining. The forums seem dominated by a few intent on basically trolling anyone who does not share their personal opinion. That is, insulting, not debating those who disagree. Opinions seem pretty extreme and those posting seem far less willing to even consider other ideas. I see a lot of folks are just absent and even some I remember as being adept at honest debating have lapsed into extreme diatribes. (and, of course, accuse me of all that)


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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:55 pm

waauw wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:Back to the original topic. It does seem to me as if CC is declining. The forums seem dominated by a few intent on basically trolling anyone who does not share their personal opinion. That is, insulting, not debating those who disagree. Opinions seem pretty extreme and those posting seem far less willing to even consider other ideas. I see a lot of folks are just absent and even some I remember as being adept at honest debating have lapsed into extreme diatribes. (and, of course, accuse me of all that)

That mostly applies to the off topic section, which is a shit hole of opinionated, ever-inflating egos where they just stroke each other's e-peens and argue for the sake of it with no valid point.


And the insulting ensues... Way to go hypocrit. :sick:

I didn't insult Player whatsoever. I'm simply getting at the fact that most potentially fruitful debates turn into personal grudges, making it mostly a waste of time.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby waauw on Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:20 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
waauw wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:Back to the original topic. It does seem to me as if CC is declining. The forums seem dominated by a few intent on basically trolling anyone who does not share their personal opinion. That is, insulting, not debating those who disagree. Opinions seem pretty extreme and those posting seem far less willing to even consider other ideas. I see a lot of folks are just absent and even some I remember as being adept at honest debating have lapsed into extreme diatribes. (and, of course, accuse me of all that)

That mostly applies to the off topic section, which is a shit hole of opinionated, ever-inflating egos where they just stroke each other's e-peens and argue for the sake of it with no valid point.


And the insulting ensues... Way to go hypocrit. :sick:


How is that even an insult?


Sure, because his point of "stroke each other's e-peens" is meant as a virtual hug.

iAmCaffeine wrote:I didn't insult Player whatsoever. I'm simply getting at the fact that most potentially fruitful debates turn into personal grudges, making it mostly a waste of time.


I didn't say it's him you insulted.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby jmyork82 on Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:20 pm

I feel like the member number will eventually reach a point where it stays the same. Maybe 20 or so. Which will be the same number of people in the forum wondering why they ran everybody off the site. :lol:
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