[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Aladdin is for town, Storr is not , I KNOW! That is all I am saying

Alright Storr, whats your case against Mitch? After this i am listening.

I wouldnt say youre confirmed town until we have an idea how many busdrivers there are etc. Also with regards to Mars knowing his sanity - IB has claimed insane guard, so I think he might have known.

Aladdin IS mafia.

[AladdinSane]

I don't feel for voting Aladdin at the moment. To me, he seems eager rather than scummy.

Everyone, please just go back and look through the recent Beginner's game. You'll see that my playing style is exactly the same there as it is here. I post a lot and try to work out what is going on. I think I played an instrumental part in the Town win in that game, since we were on the brink of losing when I pushed successfully on Streaker, and I would like to do the same in this game (play an instrumental part in a Town win, I mean, not push hard on Streaker).

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Mispeld krap, man dis is geting so funking old.

[benga]

Vote count:

-AladdinSane (4): Storrzerg*, Wing*, Iron Butterfly, ptlowe*
-Storrzerg (2): madmitch*, Rishaed*
-the white rose (1): Iron Butterfly*
-benga (1): whatsausage*
-no vote (1): player57832*
-ptlowe (1): whatsausage
-whatsausage(1): benga*

Deadline is January 22nd, 09.00 CC Time. It takes 14 to have a majority. Reaching this deadline while your vote is not currently placed, will result in modkill.

is this mistake, whatsausage has 2 votes allocated? and IB too

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Specifics, please, Max: What "much scummier things" have I done? And please don't recycle Ginkapo's and Storr's weak shit. I've already dealt with those, and I don't want to waste time doing it again.

I disagree

IB am I correct that you have voted twice in this dayphase, and thus the conclusion is that unvotes dont count in the votecount?

[AladdinSane]

Aladdin IS mafia.

Nope. And i think the time has come for you to put up or shut up. Give us something substantial to go on. I've answered all the concerns you've expressed. Since you are still pushing hard on me, you really need to come up with something new, otherwise it is patently obvious that you are a scum lyncher or something similar. Post any concerns you have. as I said earlier, I will address them. I have nothing anti-Town to hide.

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Mispel, my bel, dese are werds dat go tegevver wel

[AladdinSane]

Specifics, please, Max: What "much scummier things" have I done? And please don't recycle Ginkapo's and Storr's weak shit. I've already dealt with those, and I don't want to waste time doing it again.

I disagree

Go for it, then. Let's see what you think you have.

[AladdinSane]

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Mispel agin lotz of mispel pweese dont kil me mods mispel mispel mispel

[Falkomagno]

For some reason I think Aladdin is not anti town.
In the other hand, the whole mass claim, plus the vigilante, plus alignments in general, indicate to me that there is people working in groups, or belonging to groups. one obvious one is the "speech impediment one", now Aladdin and Catch, which are surprisingly not working together at all.

The group that gets my attention is the one from IB, Storr, ptlowe and some others. Madmitch said that aladdin is for town and storr not, which s antagonizing and interesting, in case that group turns out to be town, So lets find out.

Vote Storrzerg

[AladdinSane]

Vote Aladdin

Mitch, Storr writes that comment in too many games for it to have any meaning.

Check this out. Almost as soon as D2 starts, Ginkapo votes me again, without even any explanation. It has to be blindingly obvious to anyone paying attention that he has a hardon for me, and the best explanation for that is that he is a lyncher.

Why should Town waste a lynch to help Ginkapo achieve his anti-Town wincon, when we could use it to lynch an actual Mafia?

[AladdinSane]

I'm tempted to vote Ginkapo because it seems plain as day to me that he is a lyncher and since he is after me, he is anti-Town. But I think it is better for Town to try to lynch an actual Mafia, and I don't see Ginkapo as Mafia. For now, no vote.

As for Storr, I think he is just a bit over-zealous because of frustration at the very few solid leads we have, and he is just clutching at straws. Storr, I still lean Town in my reading of you, but you need to use that analytical bent of yours to root out actual Mafia, not just jump on a convenient and insubstantial bandwagon.

[AladdinSane]

Arrgh! See how easy it is to forget to misspell? I should point out that I only got three hours' sleep last night. It's actually a LOT easier to forget and just hit 'Submit' when I do the misspellings at the end
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Oh god I dont fink I kan keep dis up mutch longer. Dat's akshually what I sed to a girl last nite, but I woz wong LOL.

[AladdinSane]

I see today that there is a push on aladdin, before i make a decision whether to join that or not i would like to ask aladdin what incentives/penalties happen with regards to his pr?

Nothing has been spelled out clearly for me TWR. Reading between the lines, I get the impression I might get some sort of award if I make a quota of misspells, and be punished for not making quota. Also, and is even less clear, that there might be some sort of in-game implication. I'm hoping it will become clearer as time wears on.

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Orl werk and know play maykes Allllladinnnnnn a dul boy.

[AladdinSane]

Well I can vet Stor's claim on being town because I investigated him last night. BTW since let's kill mafia and win and people are saying its a good idea. I am town cop. Let the claiming begin.

Expect protecting tonight.

Aladdin is for town, Storr is not , I KNOW! That is all I am saying

Okay, so this is interesting. ptlowe claims cop and an investigation on Stor that came up Town, but Mitch says he knows for sure, through some mysterious means, that Storr is not Town (but I am Town).

Mitch, why can't you say more about your reasons? Are you post-restricted from saying how you know? Obviously I give your view credence because of the Town read on me but I know that does not mean anything for anyone else. But without more about the nature of the source of your claimed knowledge, it can't count for much. It would be brilliant if you can post solid evidence of me being Town, incidentally, so we can move on and get some real scum hunting done for a change.

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Grown! Moor mispeling. Hooed haf thort mispeling cood be sutch a burrden?

[MrBellyBangBang]

Aladdin is for town, Storr is not , I KNOW! That is all I am saying

Alright Storr, whats your case against Mitch? After this i am listening.

I wouldnt say youre confirmed town until we have an idea how many busdrivers there are etc. Also with regards to Mars knowing his sanity - IB has claimed insane guard, so I think he might have known.

Aladdin IS mafia.

Are you just expecting us to believe it because you've said it a hundred times? You have to use reasoning, if you don't have reasons and just know due to your role then you should claim that role so we can make a judgement from that. You can't pretend to be a vanilla townie who to knows, vanilla townies don't know. So do you know or do you think?

I'm tempted to vote Ginkapo because it seems plain as day to me that he is a lyncher and since he is after me, he is anti-Town. But I think it is better for Town to try to lynch an actual Mafia, and I don't see Ginkapo as Mafia. For now, no vote.

As for Storr, I think he is just a bit over-zealous because of frustration at the very few solid leads we have, and he is just clutching at straws. Storr, I still lean Town in my reading of you, but you need to use that analytical bent of yours to root out actual Mafia, not just jump on a convenient and insubstantial bandwagon.

Have you fergotten about misspelling agin?

Aladdin's role has kind of bothered me since his ferst post about his PR. He has also conviently "forgotten" to misspell posts multiple times, then clams the mods have instructed him to miz-spell more. Now, I would believe the mods want him to misspell more if it's in reference to his numerous posts that do not include misspellings, however when Aladdin's first comment about his role states that it "compals me to mispel a couple of times per post" I'm not sure I buy it. Aladdin has either interpreted those instruktions very liberally or he is intentionally attempting to get under people's skin and muddy the waters.

We have at leest some level of similarity in our roles hear seeing as we are both required to misspell in our posts and I have not encountered any of the same izzues. Unless we find some solid information about someone else being mafia, I'm fine lynching Aladdin today.

Oh great, we have another TimWoodbury to deal with? At least you can capitalize >.>

LOL. Metsfan, my roll compals me to mispel a couple of times per post. I wood like too take this oppertunity to thank the cant who thort that one up. WIll try too capitolize corectly tho. I forgot too mispel in the post above ^

Sory peeple, I have bean told my the mods that I have not bean mispeling enuff and I need to make my speling a lot werse than it has bean resently. Just no that it is moor panefull four me than it is four you. They sed they wil...do things...if I don't mispel enuff. Sory.

Actually, chaps, there IS something I want to tell you. And it is GOOD news. You might notice that I am writing without misspelling. That is because the mods have given me permission to write in proper English, and then add some misspelled trash at the end of each post. HOORAY! I'll try to put the crap under a line, like so:

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Mispeled krap dont pay no atenshun to dis.

Well you're not misspelling anymore, did the mods tell you it's fine to not do it anymore or did you forget?

Aladdin is for town, Storr is not , I KNOW! That is all I am saying

An assertion like that if it is to be believed needs to be accompanied with a role claim. Both you and Ginkapo have made claims to knowing Aladin is something, Ginkapon claims to know he's not town, you claim to know he is town, one of you is wrong. This I think is our next lead in this game.

OK. I also have an announcement *grin*

We have a gifter in game and I was the proud recipient of a magic 8 ball,which tells me a bit about a specific player. I have sent in my action to investigate someone.

Fun Times!!

I'm not inclined to believe you on this one. Like Mets was saying something felt off about your role due to the inbalance, you most likely have a night action every night the previous one you used to find HS. That's what makes the most sense to me.

seriously your removing multiple letters on words, and changing things far more than needed. im glad you are getting lynched today

Storr does not seem concerned about towns best interest if he's happy to lynch someone because they have a misspelling requirement. Is there anything mafia about misspelling? I don't see the Connection misspelling equals mafia, so likely he doesn't gaf whether we hit mafia or not today just so long as he doesn't have to deal with misspellings. I'm gonna have to FOS storr now after that.

I'm not for a mass claim right now but I do think the players that have professed to KNOW something about another player needs to claim a role if they are to be believed. We can't just follow blindly behind someone who claims to know and yet doesn't offer any rational for how they came to know.

[AladdinSane]

I know first hand about claiming so there would be no reason for Ptlowe to claim what he did unless he was sincere.

I disagree. He said he "expected protection tonight" - there's a motive for fakeclaiming cop right there. Gaining protection.

[MrBellyBangBang]

You can ignore the above post, got the quotes thing wrong.

Aladdin is for town, Storr is not , I KNOW! That is all I am saying

Alright Storr, whats your case against Mitch? After this i am listening.

I wouldnt say youre confirmed town until we have an idea how many busdrivers there are etc. Also with regards to Mars knowing his sanity - IB has claimed insane guard, so I think he might have known.

Aladdin IS mafia.

Are you just expecting us to believe it because you've said it a hundred times? You have to use reasoning, if you don't have reasons and just know due to your role then you should claim that role so we can make a judgement from that. You can't pretend to be a vanilla townie who to knows, vanilla townies don't know. So do you know or do you think?

I'm tempted to vote Ginkapo because it seems plain as day to me that he is a lyncher and since he is after me, he is anti-Town. But I think it is better for Town to try to lynch an actual Mafia, and I don't see Ginkapo as Mafia. For now, no vote.

As for Storr, I think he is just a bit over-zealous because of frustration at the very few solid leads we have, and he is just clutching at straws. Storr, I still lean Town in my reading of you, but you need to use that analytical bent of yours to root out actual Mafia, not just jump on a convenient and insubstantial bandwagon.

Have you fergotten about misspelling agin?

Aladdin's role has kind of bothered me since his ferst post about his PR. He has also conviently "forgotten" to misspell posts multiple times, then clams the mods have instructed him to miz-spell more. Now, I would believe the mods want him to misspell more if it's in reference to his numerous posts that do not include misspellings, however when Aladdin's first comment about his role states that it "compals me to mispel a couple of times per post" I'm not sure I buy it. Aladdin has either interpreted those instruktions very liberally or he is intentionally attempting to get under people's skin and muddy the waters.

We have at leest some level of similarity in our roles hear seeing as we are both required to misspell in our posts and I have not encountered any of the same izzues. Unless we find some solid information about someone else being mafia, I'm fine lynching Aladdin today.

Oh great, we have another TimWoodbury to deal with? At least you can capitalize >.>

LOL. Metsfan, my roll compals me to mispel a couple of times per post. I wood like too take this oppertunity to thank the cant who thort that one up. WIll try too capitolize corectly tho. I forgot too mispel in the post above ^

Sory peeple, I have bean told my the mods that I have not bean mispeling enuff and I need to make my speling a lot werse than it has bean resently. Just no that it is moor panefull four me than it is four you. They sed they wil...do things...if I don't mispel enuff. Sory.

Actually, chaps, there IS something I want to tell you. And it is GOOD news. You might notice that I am writing without misspelling. That is because the mods have given me permission to write in proper English, and then add some misspelled trash at the end of each post. HOORAY! I'll try to put the crap under a line, like so:

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Mispeled krap dont pay no atenshun to dis.

Well you're not misspelling anymore, did the mods tell you it's fine to not do it anymore or did you forget?

Aladdin is for town, Storr is not , I KNOW! That is all I am saying

An assertion like that if it is to be believed needs to be accompanied with a role claim. Both you and Ginkapo have made claims to knowing Aladin is something, Ginkapon claims to know he's not town, you claim to know he is town, one of you is wrong. This I think is our next lead in this game.

OK. I also have an announcement *grin*

We have a gifter in game and I was the proud recipient of a magic 8 ball,which tells me a bit about a specific player. I have sent in my action to investigate someone.

Fun Times!!

I'm not inclined to believe you on this one. Like Mets was saying something felt off about your role due to the inbalance, you most likely have a night action every night the previous one you used to find HS. That's what makes the most sense to me.

seriously your removing multiple letters on words, and changing things far more than needed. im glad you are getting lynched today

Storr does not seem concerned about towns best interest if he's happy to lynch someone because they have a misspelling requirement. Is there anything mafia about misspelling? I don't see the Connection misspelling equals mafia, so likely he doesn't gaf whether we hit mafia or not today just so long as he doesn't have to deal with misspellings. I'm gonna have to FOS storr now after that.

I'm not for a mass claim right now but I do think the players that have professed to KNOW something about another player needs to claim a role if they are to be believed. We can't just follow blindly behind someone who claims to know and yet doesn't offer any rational for how they came to know.

[AladdinSane]

[quote="MrBellyBangBang"
Well you're not misspelling anymore, did the mods tell you it's fine to not do it anymore or did you forget?
[/quote]

I posted a couple pages back about this. In a nutshell, the mods have said I can now spell correctly for the bulk of each post, and then throw in some misspelled crap at the end, like this:

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Mispeled krap at teh end

[CatchersMitt14]

Aladdin's role has kind of bothered me since his ferst post about his PR. He has also conviently "forgotten" to misspell posts multiple times, then clams the mods have instructed him to miz-spell more. Now, I would believe the mods want him to misspell more if it's in reference to his numerous posts that do not include misspellings, however when Aladdin's first comment about his role states that it "compals me to mispel a couple of times per post" I'm not sure I buy it. Aladdin has either interpreted those instruktions very liberally or he is intentionally attempting to get under people's skin and muddy the waters.

We have at leest some level of similarity in our roles hear seeing as we are both required to misspell in our posts and I have not encountered any of the same izzues. Unless we find some solid information about someone else being mafia, I'm fine lynching Aladdin today.

Oh great, we have another TimWoodbury to deal with? At least you can capitalize >.>

LOL. Metsfan, my roll compals me to mispel a couple of times per post. I wood like too take this oppertunity to thank the cant who thort that one up. WIll try too capitolize corectly tho. I forgot too mispel in the post above ^

Sory peeple, I have bean told my the mods that I have not bean mispeling enuff and I need to make my speling a lot werse than it has bean resently. Just no that it is moor panefull four me than it is four you. They sed they wil...do things...if I don't mispel enuff. Sory.

Actually, chaps, there IS something I want to tell you. And it is GOOD news. You might notice that I am writing without misspelling. That is because the mods have given me permission to write in proper English, and then add some misspelled trash at the end of each post. HOORAY! I'll try to put the crap under a line, like so:

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Mispeled krap dont pay no atenshun to dis.

Well you're not misspelling anymore, did the mods tell you it's fine to not do it anymore or did you forget?

I can't tell here if you're taking abut Aladdin or myself. Since I'm the last quote, I'm guezzing you're refering to me. If so, run my coment through your word processor, there's definitly misspellings there.

[CatchersMitt14]

seriously your removing multiple letters on words, and changing things far more than needed. im glad you are getting lynched today

Storr does not seem concerned about towns best interest if he's happy to lynch someone because they have a misspelling requirement. Is there anything mafia about misspelling? I don't see the Connection misspelling equals mafia, so likely he doesn't gaf whether we hit mafia or not today just so long as he doesn't have to deal with misspellings. I'm gonna have to FOS storr now after that.

I'm not for a mass claim right now but I do think the players that have professed to KNOW something about another player needs to claim a role if they are to be believed. We can't just follow blindly behind someone who claims to know and yet doesn't offer any rational for how they came to know.

The conection isn't that misspeling equals mafia, you're mizzing the point there. The question is who is the player alined with regardless how their abilities wit tha English language are portrayed.

I agree with your last point, if you're gonna claim to know somthing, you have to back it up with evidence. Not just add sarcasm and sum smilies and hope peopel agree with you.

[AladdinSane]

Well I can vet Stor's claim on being town because I investigated him last night. BTW since let's kill mafia and win and people are saying its a good idea. I am town cop. Let the claiming begin.

Expect protecting tonight.

Okay, I messed up the quoting before. But here is a possible motive for ptlowe fakeclaiming cop: he wants protection from NK. Would this course of action actuallly be safer for him than just not claiming? Not sure.

[DJPatrick]

WRT the votingf posted aboe...it shows some pps with votes in for more than one opponent...pls explain??? (ie get this shit together nudie man!!!)

[Iron Butterfly]

Specifics, please, Max: What "much scummier things" have I done? And please don't recycle Ginkapo's and Storr's weak shit. I've already dealt with those, and I don't want to waste time doing it again.

I disagree

IB am I correct that you have voted twice in this dayphase, and thus the conclusion is that unvotes dont count in the votecount?

I have no idea.

I would not read to much into it as I think it is just an honest mistake. I voted WR unvoted and voted Aladdin in a short period.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Anyone who has accused me of being a lyncher but voted for Hotshot should resign from the game immediately.

I know Aladdin is mafia because I have read his posts.

Aladdin, why ever since I voted for you D1 have you not entertained the possibility that anyone other than those voting for you are mafia, namely myself and storr.

Falko, vote PT before Storr, you cannot ignore a copcheck on D2.

MrBelly, yes I expect you to believe me. I see zero other cases made today.

IB notice the * its intentional by the mods.

[Iron Butterfly]

Many players play this one with prejudice, but at least I got my answer from Aladin I was looking for.

thx

on the other note

Whatsausage came back to me as anti-town

so vote Whatsausage

Did I miss you claiming? How did you come about this investigation?

[AladdinSane]

Anyone who has accused me of being a lyncher but voted for Hotshot should resign from the game immediately.

I know Aladdin is mafia because I have read his posts.

Again, these are just different ways of attacking me without saying anything of substance - very scummy! Oh yes, verrrrry scummmmmmy!!!!!

There is nothing logically inconsistent about voting HS and accusing you of being a lyncher. I never bought the "IB is a lyncher" theory, but in your case I do. As ABBA sed, "Becorse I dooooo, I do I do I do I do I dooooo". That's a lot of dooos.

"I know X is mafia because I have read his posts" - Really? Really, really? Reeeeeally? You expect that to fly? Fly like a berd on wings of pure boolsheet? I fink not. Not at orl.

Aladdin, why ever since I voted for you D1 have you not entertained the possibility that anyone other than those voting for you are mafia, namely myself and storr.

Actually I HAVE considered the possibility. I said in a post earlier that I read you as a lyncher rather than Mafia because you are sooooooooooo focussed on me. And I have said twice I am leaning Town on Storr. At this point I don't see him as anti-Town, let alone MAfia. But I would def like to hear more from Mitch about why he thinks Storr is anti-Town. That could be inneresting. Very very innersting. Oh yes.