[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[benga]

so we have cult
and degaston kill chuck?
pt is naive cop?

Use English please. Chuck was just modkilled. I wounded Mitch, and expect he'll be dead by morning.
Would sausage's role have included a cult if he was part of one? Or were you talking about something else?
Why is pt naive?

Skoffin, Town Doctor, has been found decapitated and his head replaced by a rotting pumpkin in the town square (Modkill)
MrBellyBangBang, Vanilla Townie, has been found (or at least, his remains) eaten by dire wolves. All evidence suggests he was still allive during the attack (Modkill)
thechuck, Vanilla Townie, has been found stung a million times by angry wasps. He didn't succumb of his injuries right away, only after a long and painfull struggle did he finally die.[/b]

WHERE does it say chuck was modkilled?
if you didn't then someone else did

I think wing shared info about possible cops from wiki, since we have insane and my investigations went thru, then it's possible pt is naive cop.

Since sausage said himself he was recruited, I presume it was from cult

[benga]

and thechuck, was also modkill? why is not indicated in brackets as with the other two?

Don't stick to the typos like esylum or asylum.
It's noted in first post of the thread that he is modkilled.
Streaker changed it there but forgot to mention it here.

ok, it's corrected, so he was modkilled

[AladdinSane]

I think wing shared info about possible cops from wiki, since we have insane and my investigations went thru, then it's possible pt is naive cop.

Okay, it is possibul that yore investimagation went thru, but dis is not really confirmed, as Sausage could have been pro-Town 3P - meaning you mite be paranoid cop. Wot we have to assess is weather Sausage's choice of global effecks was pro- or anti-Town or nootral, and weather intenshunly or accidently so. Den we can make an assessment of your investimagation. The page Wing linked to dozent seem to say how the various sanities cops reed a 3P.

Also: you sed "investimagations" here - typo, did I miss sumting, or have you investimagated sumwun else?

Whatsausage came back to me as anti-town

IB says 8-borl got Town on Sausage, so a def miss dere. That page on sanities that Wing helpfully linked to mentions a "random" resolt from investimagations, so maybe dat is wot happened hear. At any rate, the IB/8-borl combo looks unreliable.

Benga my magic 8 ball got Town on sausage.

For clarity I asked mod if magic 8 ball works like real life...hehe random results stuff. No magic 8 ball is right.

IB, you never ansered my questjun about the ambi...ambig...ambigyoous phrasing hear: Did you mean "No magic 8 ball is right", as in "There does not exist a magic 8 ball that is right" or "No, magic 8 ball is right", as in the mods confirmed the 8-borl gives ackurate resolts? NOTE: the comma in the second vershun changes the meaning.

[benga]

my investigation was during the day, by that time he already flipped, so both IB and me would be right.

[madmitch]

I see SKOFFIN lost her head and it was replaced by a pumpkin, I hope it wasn't the flying pumpkin that shoots laser beams out its ass or everyone is in trouble.

[AladdinSane]

my investigation was during the day, by that time he already flipped, so both IB and me would be right.

Sory, I'm not shore I am folowing you dere. Are you saying WhatSausage changed alinements when he was contackted by the mysterious groop he menshunned? Frum wot little I know, that wood imply the groop is Cult, right?

Can you pleese clarify? I'm not suspishus (yet), just a littul confused...

[StorrZerg]

Benga check was correct. Ib end had been fuzzed. I suspect his "role"played a modifier, or the gift was bugged.

Since whatsausage was not town, and his result was town.


Well, doc is dead... mass claim tomorrow anyone?

Cops dead tonight rip

[StorrZerg]

my investigation was during the day, by that time he already flipped, so both IB and me would be right.

Sory, I'm not shore I am folowing you dere. Are you saying WhatSausage changed alinements when he was contackted by the mysterious groop he menshunned? Frum wot little I know, that wood imply the groop is Cult, right?

Can you pleese clarify? I'm not suspishus (yet), just a littul confused...

Whatsausage was not recruited by a cult. He was 3p survivor.

It would have been said upon his death of be was recruited into a cult. Secondly both checks occurred after night phase. Something happened to ib, his magic 8 ball was bad, his role changed result, or ib lied.

Ib being a liar doesn't make sense because whatsausage isn't cult or mafia, hence he has no reason to protect whatsausage with a false town claim

[AladdinSane]

Benga check was correct.

But how do you rool out the posibility that Sausage was pro-Town 3P and Benga is paranoid cop? A paranoid cop cood get an "anti-Town" reed, on a pro-Town 3P, right? Like I say, the page Wing linked to dozent seem to tork about non-sane reeds on 3Ps, so all dis is a bit uncleer to me.

[AladdinSane]

Whatsausage was not recruited by a cult. He was 3p survivor.

It would have been said upon his death of be was recruited into a cult.

Okay, that makes sense. Good point. So wot did Benga mean when he said Sausage "flipped" between investimagations?

Secondly both checks occurred after night phase. Something happened to ib, his magic 8 ball was bad, his role changed result, or ib lied.

Ib being a liar doesn't make sense because whatsausage isn't cult or mafia, hence he has no reason to protect whatsausage with a false town claim

Yeah, I agree. And if the magic 8-borl is bad, it looks weird becorse IB seemed to say the mods had confirmed it was good. That's how peeple seemed to reed his comment anyway. I reely want to heer wot ha has to say about that ambi...ambig...ambigyoous phrasing I pointed out.

[Ragian]

I agree with that. No reason for IB to lie. However, he did say:

Benga my magic 8 ball got Town on sausage.

For clarity I asked mod if magic 8 ball works like real life...hehe random results stuff. No magic 8 ball is right.

When prodded about it, he seemed to avoid the issue.

Anyway, we know that we can believe Benga's result.

FP'ed

3rd party are not protown. They are 3rd party. I haven't seen any "protown" results on non-town players ever (barring a naive/insane cop, but that's not the issue here).

FP'ed again. Would you let me post?!

[Ragian]

And yes, it was Aladdin who pointed it out. I forgot to give a shoutout there.

[StorrZerg]

Benga check was correct.

But how do you rool out the posibility that Sausage was pro-Town 3P and Benga is paranoid cop? A paranoid cop cood get an "anti-Town" reed, on a pro-Town 3P, right? Like I say, the page Wing linked to dozent seem to tork about non-sane reeds on 3Ps, so all dis is a bit uncleer to me.

Because it's a personal choice how to play as a survivor. Survivor as his role is shown, will never return town on a normal cop check.

[AladdinSane]

Anyway, we know that we can believe Benga's result.

FP'ed

3rd party are not protown. They are 3rd party. I haven't seen any "protown" results on non-town players ever (barring a naive/insane cop, but that's not the issue here).

Okay, thanks. Chork dat one up to inexperiense. So, it is never teh case that a 3P's wincon coincides wit Town's wincon? I was unner the impreshun that cood happen, but okay if I was mistaken about that, I accept it.

FP'ed Storr

[benga]

Anyway, we know that we can believe Benga's result.

FP'ed

3rd party are not protown. They are 3rd party. I haven't seen any "protown" results on non-town players ever (barring a naive/insane cop, but that's not the issue here).

Okay, thanks. Chork dat one up to inexperiense. So, it is never teh case that a 3P's wincon coincides wit Town's wincon? I was unner the impreshun that cood happen, but okay if I was mistaken about that, I accept it.

FP'ed Storr

when I said flipped I thought if he joined cult over night and IB investigated him over night so he was still town...

but not sure if cult is a possiblity, just a thought

[Ragian]

Surely, he would flip cult, then..?

[AladdinSane]

Anyway, we know that we can believe Benga's result.

FP'ed

3rd party are not protown. They are 3rd party. I haven't seen any "protown" results on non-town players ever (barring a naive/insane cop, but that's not the issue here).

Okay, thanks. Chork dat one up to inexperiense. So, it is never teh case that a 3P's wincon coincides wit Town's wincon? I was unner the impreshun that cood happen, but okay if I was mistaken about that, I accept it.

FP'ed Storr

when I said flipped I thought if he joined cult over night and IB investigated him over night so he was still town...

but not sure if cult is a possiblity, just a thought

Yeah, apparently we wood have been told wen he died if Sausage had joined Cult (accordingk to Storr and Ragian). Wen we killed him, that is. No busdriver acktivity either, since you investimagated during teh day? Am I getting that rite?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Anyway, we know that we can believe Benga's result.

FP'ed

3rd party are not protown. They are 3rd party. I haven't seen any "protown" results on non-town players ever (barring a naive/insane cop, but that's not the issue here).

Okay, thanks. Chork dat one up to inexperiense. So, it is never teh case that a 3P's wincon coincides wit Town's wincon? I was unner the impreshun that cood happen, but okay if I was mistaken about that, I accept it.

FP'ed Storr

Survivor can win WITH town, but are not PRO town, neither are they ANTI town.

Cop check result with regard to 3rd party are mod choice. Is the check, Are they town? In which case 3rd party are not. Is the check, Are they mafia? In which case no.

So many options

I dont get why he didnt claim 3rd party with a role that was blatantly 3rd party. I would have believed him to be non harmful 3p

[AladdinSane]

Survivor can win WITH town, but are not PRO town, neither are they ANTI town.

Cop check result with regard to 3rd party are mod choice. Is the check, Are they town? In which case 3rd party are not. Is the check, Are they mafia? In which case no.

So many options

Okay, got it now. Thanks.

[AladdinSane]

And, yeah, I just reelized I dident mispel dere. Kwik post, fergot.

[Whatsausage]

So it has come to be.
GL all, have fun

[Metsfanmax]

IB, why do you think the 8-ball gave you incorrect results, given that you claim to have asked the mod and got confirmation that it gives correct results?

[PLAYER57832]

Looks like most people playing are now either mafia or something else. As I said, I won't be able to post much today -- nothing for the next 12 hours or so, but I think looking back at the votes gives some pretty clear alignment information. Unless the game started out highly skewed, it seems that a lot of town/pro town has been eliminated.

[benga]

Surely, he would flip cult, then..?

I get only these results:
town, antitown, no result

don't know what else could it be then cult...

HS was also 3rd party that can win only with town eliminated?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

but I think looking back at the votes gives some pretty clear alignment information.

Cheers for being epansive, care to elaborate?