[OFFICIAL] Lion King Mafia - Town Scarred as Mafia Wins!

[kwanton]

I still agree with Mandy.
vote sam

[nagerous]

Vote Count :

Tim (2) dakky, MM
Skoff (1) Flores
Kwan (1) Hotshot
DDS (1) Kwan
No lunch (1) Samlen
Samlen (1) Fircoal
Firacle (2) Tim, skittles
Sam (4) benga, Mandy, DJ, Mitch

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch!

Girl... that autocorrect

Never blame the autocorrect! No lunch is from ga7s vote count as is firacle which is the new name for chu as chosen by Tim. I did f*ck up sams vote count though by including him twice so have edited. He is now -3 (no unvote from Kwan )

[Djfireside]

Suppose I'm a little frustrated. There's not much else I can do than ask questions. I still think a lynch today is much more likely to hurt than help so I'm trying to see if I can get people to question it.

Thats the point of it all. While there can be the advocate for a no lynch, doing nothing during the day will gain absolutely nothing. The only way you can gain information in this game is by pressuring people, reading their responses and in some cases pushing for a claim to gain as much info as possible. Its all part of the process and you can return the pressure and try to clear yourself which you are working at.

[Minister Masket]

Suppose I'm a little frustrated. There's not much else I can do than ask questions. I still think a lynch today is much more likely to hurt than help so I'm trying to see if I can get people to question it.

Thats the point of it all. While there can be the advocate for a no lynch, doing nothing during the day will gain absolutely nothing. The only way you can gain information in this game is by pressuring people, reading their responses and in some cases pushing for a claim to gain as much info as possible. Its all part of the process and you can return the pressure and try to clear yourself which you are working at.

While that's true, let's not kid ourselves by pretending otherwise that in quite a lot of cases, the first to be pressured heavily is often lynched anyway because the deadline rarely allows for multiple heavy bandwagons. Quite often the victim is town too, which I'm inclined to believe in this case.

[FloresDelMal]

i was feeling a bit under the weather this last days but i got prodded and im gonna be reading and posting later today, sorry for the inconvenience ^^

[Samlen]

I'm not especially taken in by this Samlen bandwagon, especially as it could've easily happened to DDS instead. I kinda get the latest votes more though because they seem like genuine pushes for information.

Ok next question. If we assume that I am town and that this ends in my lynch, what do the current votes tell us? Cause it doesn't seem like much. On the off chance you are right and we can definitely find a scum by this bandwagon, my gut says dj or mayyyyybe fircoal. In other news, i'm at 4/8 so I'll claim if a couple more votes find their way towards me.

Any chance you can reveal why your gut feelings point to DJ and Fircoal?

Fircoal being the first vote on me felt like a safe position for scum to take without being seen as bandwagoning. And dj's vote just felt like bandwagon for the sake of bandwagon.
I'm at L-3 (L-2 since kwan'll probably fix his vote next time he gets on) so I'm a giraffe. I am a vanilla townie and I am simply part of the herd. If I do get lynched, I'd say mitch's softclaim of vanilla townie is slightly more legitimized.

[madmitch]

[b][b]unvote[/b][/b] I believe him

[Fircoal]

I'm not especially taken in by this Samlen bandwagon, especially as it could've easily happened to DDS instead. I kinda get the latest votes more though because they seem like genuine pushes for information.

Ok next question. If we assume that I am town and that this ends in my lynch, what do the current votes tell us? Cause it doesn't seem like much. On the off chance you are right and we can definitely find a scum by this bandwagon, my gut says dj or mayyyyybe fircoal. In other news, i'm at 4/8 so I'll claim if a couple more votes find their way towards me.

Any chance you can reveal why your gut feelings point to DJ and Fircoal?

Fircoal being the first vote on me felt like a safe position for scum to take without being seen as bandwagoning.

Yea... rightttt

I don't think anything about my play has been a safe position. I'm not sure how trying to defend someone who was in danger of getting bandwagoned is seen as safe. Nor is putting down the first vote. I think you need to relook up what the word safe means.

[dakky21]

............... so I'm a giraffe. I am a vanilla townie and I am simply part of the herd........

I don't believe the "giraffes" are in the game and they're not named. There are plenty of characters in the the Lion King so while you could be a vanilla townie, I still think you'd have a name. Either you didn't fully claim or you don't know who to claim which makes me....

unvote vote Samlen

[mandalorian2298]

I'm not especially taken in by this Samlen bandwagon, especially as it could've easily happened to DDS instead. I kinda get the latest votes more though because they seem like genuine pushes for information.

Ok next question. If we assume that I am town and that this ends in my lynch, what do the current votes tell us? Cause it doesn't seem like much. On the off chance you are right and we can definitely find a scum by this bandwagon, my gut says dj or mayyyyybe fircoal. In other news, i'm at 4/8 so I'll claim if a couple more votes find their way towards me.

Any chance you can reveal why your gut feelings point to DJ and Fircoal?

Fircoal being the first vote on me felt like a safe position for scum to take without being seen as bandwagoning. And dj's vote just felt like bandwagon for the sake of bandwagon.
I'm at L-3 (L-2 since kwan'll probably fix his vote next time he gets on) so I'm a giraffe. I am a vanilla townie and I am simply part of the herd. If I do get lynched, I'd say mitch's softclaim of vanilla townie is slightly more legitimized.

Ok next question. If we assume that I am town and that this ends in my lynch, what do the current votes tell us? Cause it doesn't seem like much. On the off chance you are right and we can definitely find a scum by this bandwagon, my gut says dj or mayyyyybe fircoal. In other news, i'm at 4/8 so I'll claim if a couple more votes find their way towards me.

...

Well fine, I'll give you one: The scumster should claim either a no-name character or someone from the sequals.

It's working! It's working!

BTW Fircoal, you don't get any credit for the lynch if Samlen turns scum, since you were, safely, the first one to make the case against him.

[Samlen]

I'm not especially taken in by this Samlen bandwagon, especially as it could've easily happened to DDS instead. I kinda get the latest votes more though because they seem like genuine pushes for information.

Ok next question. If we assume that I am town and that this ends in my lynch, what do the current votes tell us? Cause it doesn't seem like much. On the off chance you are right and we can definitely find a scum by this bandwagon, my gut says dj or mayyyyybe fircoal. In other news, i'm at 4/8 so I'll claim if a couple more votes find their way towards me.

Any chance you can reveal why your gut feelings point to DJ and Fircoal?

Fircoal being the first vote on me felt like a safe position for scum to take without being seen as bandwagoning.

Yea... rightttt

I don't think anything about my play has been a safe position. I'm not sure how trying to defend someone who was in danger of getting bandwagoned is seen as safe. Nor is putting down the first vote. I think you need to relook up what the word safe means.

It's obvious people were going to jump on me for being a no-lynch advocate and a scumster pushing a lynch this early typically isn't safe. Gets a little wifomy here on whether it's safer to be in that position but it's just a hunch. Nothing concrete, sort of like what I've been saying day 1 is.

[mandalorian2298]

I'm not especially taken in by this Samlen bandwagon, especially as it could've easily happened to DDS instead. I kinda get the latest votes more though because they seem like genuine pushes for information.

Ok next question. If we assume that I am town and that this ends in my lynch, what do the current votes tell us? Cause it doesn't seem like much. On the off chance you are right and we can definitely find a scum by this bandwagon, my gut says dj or mayyyyybe fircoal. In other news, i'm at 4/8 so I'll claim if a couple more votes find their way towards me.

Any chance you can reveal why your gut feelings point to DJ and Fircoal?

Fircoal being the first vote on me felt like a safe position for scum to take without being seen as bandwagoning.

Yea... rightttt

I don't think anything about my play has been a safe position. I'm not sure how trying to defend someone who was in danger of getting bandwagoned is seen as safe. Nor is putting down the first vote. I think you need to relook up what the word safe means.

It's obvious people were going to jump on me for being a no-lynch advocate and a scumster pushing a lynch this early typically isn't safe. Gets a little wifomy here on whether it's safer to be in that position but it's just a hunch. Nothing concrete, sort of like what I've been saying day 1 is.

I hope we all learn from this experience and grow.

So, which one are you? Shenzi, Ed or Jackpot?

(those are the most common giraffe names)

[Samlen]

Ah yes I'm secretly Ed the bone chewing giraffe :^)

[benga]

quick notice, limited time during this weekend

[madmitch]

@ Sam I thought you were Jerome the giraffe from the friendly giant or was that a little before your time

[mandalorian2298]

We need 2 more votes on Samlen + an unvote-vote from Kwanton in the next week. It will be interesting to see if his scum-buddies decide to cut their loses or find an excuse to procrastinate in hope that general letargy leads to a No Lynch.

[madmitch]

@ Mandy , why the rush to hang Samlem? What am I not seeing? It has been a while since I watched The Lion King were there giraffes or no giraffes in the movie?

[Minister Masket]

............... so I'm a giraffe. I am a vanilla townie and I am simply part of the herd........

I don't believe the "giraffes" are in the game and they're not named. There are plenty of characters in the the Lion King so while you could be a vanilla townie, I still think you'd have a name. Either you didn't fully claim or you don't know who to claim which makes me....

unvote vote Samlen

Well, let's think about this:

Disregarding Scar and the 3 hyenas (presuming that is how the scum team is made up, I can't imagine any other reasonable way to do it) there should be:

Simba
Nala
Mufasa
Rafiki
Timon
Pumba
Mr Bean Bird

as almost dead certain inclusions for roles. That's only half of the 12 remaining roles, so it's possible there's room left over for a vanilla role or two.
I was suspicious at first but the more I think about it, the less I am.

[dakky21]

MM you missed Zazu (or is that a Bean bird?), Sarabi, Sarafina and the Mole. With Scar and 3 hyenas (which are all named as we saw from Ragian) - Shenzi, Ed & Banzai, with your 7 + Scar = 15 named roles out of 16 players. I doubt there would be just a giraffe. It has a name probably which he didn't say.

[mandalorian2298]

@ Mandy , why the rush to hang Samlem? What am I not seeing? It has been a while since I watched The Lion King were there giraffes or no giraffes in the movie?

You are not seing that I have predicted he would 'claim' an unamed role before he did, because a member of Mafia can hardly claim a main character.

You also missed that he admited to being Ed.

Finally, in a game with this few players that are really playing, a week to get two more votes is not that long. Since chances are that some at least one of the more reliable players is in the Mafia, my hurry is result based on wanting to nail another scum on Day 1 in order to have as much cushin as possible for when we go to hunt the two remaining scumsters.

Especially since our odds of lynching a scum member keep decreasing.

[madmitch]

Sorry just can't behind the lynch of Samlem, I believe he was just joking about his name being Ed,and I believe his claim because I have basically the same claim.

[mandalorian2298]

Sorry just can't behind the lynch of Samlem, I believe he was just joking about his name being Ed,and I believe his claim because I have basically the same claim.

That's OK Mitch. You just conserve your strenght.

[HotShot53]

Sorry just can't behind the lynch of Samlem, I believe he was just joking about his name being Ed,and I believe his claim because I have basically the same claim.

Since I don't think mitch would be defending this much if they were both scum, I'm inclined to believe them. I'm starting to wonder if Kwan has the same role that he has been softclaiming by plying the way he has... but my vote stays on him for now

[dakky21]

If the assumption is correct that there are (were) 3 hyenas and Scar as scum, then all inclined to believe them could be scum as well, so with 3 scum alive try not to be manipulated. I say we lynch the claimed giraffe and find out if it really doesn't have a name, if it has then mitch and hotshot are next in line. If it really doesn't it will clear mitch and possibly those who "believed" Samlen's claim.

[Samlen]

@ Mandy , why the rush to hang Samlem? What am I not seeing? It has been a while since I watched The Lion King were there giraffes or no giraffes in the movie?

You are not seing that I have predicted he would 'claim' an unamed role before he did, because a member of Mafia can hardly claim a main character.

You also missed that he admited to being Ed.

Finally, in a game with this few players that are really playing, a week to get two more votes is not that long. Since chances are that some at least one of the more reliable players is in the Mafia, my hurry is result based on wanting to nail another scum on Day 1 in order to have as much cushin as possible for when we go to hunt the two remaining scumsters.

Especially since our odds of lynching a scum member keep decreasing.

Apparently you missed the sarcasm part. Your insistence of 'being right' isn't very helpful. It's like you refuse to even consider possibilities outside what you've already predetermined.