Mass Effect 1 - Thorian (Cult) Wins!

by **lord voldemort** on Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:22 am

Lol you can't just change the game because 2 scum got early killed and now they are in a bad spot. It's their own play that did them over. Don't punish the town for that

by **Skittles!** on Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:36 am

lord voldemort wrote:Lol you can't just change the game because 2 scum got early killed and now they are in a bad spot. It's their own play that did them over. Don't punish the town for that

To be fair, the Mod can do whatever they want, as it's their game (as you know how much I fucked around with No Theme)

However, I think the way the vote is being counted now, you should have specified this at the start of the day, not near the end.

Also still waiting on when the Deadline is happening?

by **DirtyDishSoap** on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:14 am

lord voldemort wrote:Lol you can't just change the game because 2 scum got early killed and now they are in a bad spot. It's their own play that did them over. Don't punish the town for that

I'm not going to debate this in game. You can clearly see I haven't been following the meta majority vote to begin with since day 1. It wasn't an issue until recently. Please stay on topic for the game.

by **Ragian** on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:23 am

Mitch doesn't always scream. He comments on things and usually has a different interpretation than most, but I have seen him pushed like this before where he was town. However, I seem to recall him being alien queen and I said the exact same thing...so maybe I'm wrong.

Whiile Benga's guts tell him that mitch is scum, mine tell me that he is not.

by **benga** on Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:33 am

This also has a merit cause of my (little) experience from running a mafia game, if he claimed a town powerrole I would be more inclined to believe him.

And also seeing unorthodox vote count required it seems a bit over the top to protect scum.

by **madmitch** on Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:48 pm

TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A HARD TIME OF UNDERSTANDING !!! My role given to me is Sparatus, a Turian council member NO POWER BUT MY VOTE ( VANILLA ) here to help Shepard. @ MM you claimed the kill, if not day vig then what are you ? lets list possibilities ,how about executioner ,maybe you thought thort might give away his scum mates ? How about desperado or assassin but I think poisoner .

by **Ragian** on Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:57 pm

Pondering MM's role does not seem to help town too much, mate. He shot scum. He has town (or St least not scum) credit. Being dragged towards the noose, you must make a case that people can rally behind. Right now, you're just throwing dirt at your executioners. It feels like a reaction based on feelings, not reason. That's difficult to embrace. Help yourself, Mitch. If you think dakky is scummy, for instance, look through the thread and present a case to us with quotes and your interpretation.

by **madmitch** on Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:31 pm

@ Ragian not trying to throw dirt at anyone, it just MM STATED THAT HE NEVER SAID HE WAS VIG, but he took credit for the kill, granted it was a great kill but that kill does not mean he is town ,as for Dakky I have now found him scummy enough to vote for him and if I was playing by feelings I would go after Dakky for his constant attack on meso take that theory of the table ,my vote is on Doom for his statement about only being a vanilla so it was all right to get rid of me.

by **DoomYoshi** on Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:17 pm

madmitch wrote:@ Ragian not trying to throw dirt at anyone, it just MM STATED THAT HE NEVER SAID HE WAS VIG, but he took credit for the kill, granted it was a great kill but that kill does not mean he is town ,as for Dakky I have now found him scummy enough to vote for him and if I was playing by feelings I would go after Dakky for his constant attack on meso take that theory of the table ,my vote is on Doom for his statement about only being a vanilla so it was all right to get rid of me.

What would you like me to do? I'm not even on your wagon. Do you want me to defend a possible scum who is throwing dirt in every direction? (I'm picturing the Tazmanian Devil right now). Your list of scum is MM, dakky, me... anyone but yourself.

In your earlier life, when you were (as of now) confirmed town bodyguard, you weren't wiling to use your vote to help town. How can you help town with your vote today or the rest of the game? It really is only just a vanilla, and not a particularly valuable one. Town has 2 good deaths already, I'm not going to cry over spilled milk.

FTR, I did mean vanilla townie.

by **madmitch** on Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:26 pm

@Doom the idea that you think it is a good ideal to get rid of a vanilla townie is scummy,I know a vanilla townie is not much in the grand scope of things but town is town and to want to get rid of any is not right.

by **Ragian** on Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:51 pm

@mitch, it's really har to get behind your cases on doom and dakky since they're all based on them voting for you. OMGUS cases if you will. You need to explain what they have done besides voting for you that is scummy. We don't know if you're town or not, so we can't tell if their votes are scummy.

by **madmitch** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:12 am

@ Rags I understand what you are saying, I am not voting for Dakky and he has every right to question me but he is going all in on the attack even trying to put words in my mouth,example. I said when sarens team and any 3rd are eliminated but he posted I said with sarens team which is a lie but I still didn't vote him, I THOUGHT DOOM WAS TOWN until his post getting rid of a vanilla is no big thing ,he also was not on the Caff lynch and then his questions about my body guard life was weird,and now in his last post he is bringing up my past life again which should have no bearing on me now.I thank you for the chance to try explain my actions,if you feel lynching me is good for town go ahead

by **DoomYoshi** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:29 am

madmitch wrote:@Doom the idea that you think it is a good ideal to get rid of a vanilla townie is scummy,I know a vanilla townie is not much in the grand scope of things but town is town and to want to get rid of any is not right.

Where did I see getting rid of a vanilla townie is a good ideal?

Ragian wrote:@mitch, it's really har to get behind your cases on doom and dakky since they're all based on them voting for you. OMGUS cases if you will. You need to explain what they have done besides voting for you that is scummy. We don't know if you're town or not, so we can't tell if their votes are scummy.

I'm not voting for him, so that can't be the basis of the case.

by **madmitch** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:24 am

DoomYoshi wrote:
Samlen wrote:Is metagaming a norm here? Usually we're supposed to try and go through the game not taking the mods choices into account. Besides, a mod finding a replacement instead of modkilling is almost always preferable to keep the game going so that random roles just don't die. A vanilla might not matter as much as a cop or jailer but they still count in terms of numbers, vote, and opinion.

This isn't even metagaming, it's playing the mod. At least we will only lose a vanilla.

@ Doom, this is what I thought was scummy, was I wrong about your post? We lost 1 town and 2 goons plus Pika ??? if he is town then we would be down 2,are you still willing to lose another town ? I think not or you would have voted. AFTER REREADING MM is the better choice he is willing to risk a vanilla,M.M. UNVOTE VOTE

by **madmitch** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:26 am

UNVOTE VOTE M.M.

by **DoomYoshi** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:28 am

I have voted.

by **DoomYoshi** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:30 am

So let me get this straight. I'm scum for thinking you are town and not voting you. Dakky is scum for thinking you are scum and voting you. I'm not sure what sort of behavior you expect, but those seem like pretty predictable actions.

by **madmitch** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:08 am

DoomYoshi wrote:So let me get this straight. I'm scum for thinking you are town and not voting you. Dakky is scum for thinking you are scum and voting you. I'm not sure what sort of behavior you expect, but those seem like pretty predictable actions.

I don't know what to think of this post,I already explained why I thought you might be scum and I changedmy mind and unvoted you,

by **dakky21** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:00 am

madmitch wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:So let me get this straight. I'm scum for thinking you are town and not voting you. Dakky is scum for thinking you are scum and voting you. I'm not sure what sort of behavior you expect, but those seem like pretty predictable actions.

I don't know what to think of this post,I already explained why I thought you might be scum and I changedmy mind and unvoted you,

So you explained why you think Doom is scum but you changed your mind and unvoted him? Now you're voting masket because he is also voting you? I'm not sure where this leads... probably nowhere.

by **madmitch** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:31 am

@dakky if that was the case I would have voted for you,I don't care if M.M. voted for me, their some things I find strange like him saying he was not vig, but he claimed the kill ,and if I AM RIGHT HE didn't vote for Caff

by **dakky21** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:57 am

madmitch wrote:@dakky if that was the case I would have voted for you,I don't care if M.M. voted for me, their some things I find strange like him saying he was not vig, but he claimed the kill ,and if I AM RIGHT HE didn't vote for Caff

Mitch if you were skum, would you target your own partner and then claim a kill? What for? To gain town cred? I don't think so and no one counter claimed yet. It's just like my benga/Caff case from the beginning... "maybe they're both scum" ... yeah that obviously happens a lot.

I believe both Doom and MM are town, you not so much.

by **Ragian** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:13 am

@Doom, right. Got that wrong...

by **DirtyDishSoap** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:28 am

Reminder: Deadline is set tomorrow, August 10th -8gmt. Roughly around the time I've posted this.

by **madmitch** on Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:46 pm

looks like time is almost up,and I will probally be hung,just a few thoughts don't count fircoat play against me because I had nothing to do with it and don't understand someoff his moves, Dooyou keep mentioning my play when I was a body guard that person is dead and should not count against me now,for the record Doom you said as a body guard I wasn't willing to use my vote for town( aug 8 5:17 ) funny how I voted for Caff and you didn't. Benga claimed jailer but when thort was killed he laughed and said he BLOCKED him not jailed,M.M. again I will bring up your killthat you claim, but you say you are not vig, and Dakky like I said before I found your thort relationship strange. No more post from me ,it wouldn't help and I am probally grasping at straws anyway.

by **HotShot53** on Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:02 am

I haven't been sure if mitch is scum or not... but after the last few days I am leaning more towards him actually being town. Since I don't know if I'll survive the night or not, I'll give my reads on everyone now, and also try to find someone to vote for even though the day is running out.

Player List
1. Pikanchion - ???? Unknown dead person
2. Ragian - Was suspicious of Caff and Thor before most people, and his posts have sounded mostly towny. I lean town for him.
3. Strike Wolf - Soft defended both Caff and Thor at different times. Hasn't seemed to do much scum hunting by himself, seems to be going with the flow mostly. I'm leaning a little scum on him
4. Madmitch v1 - Dead - Ashley Williams (Body Guard)
5. Dakky21 - Was strong on both Caff and Thor. Lean town.
6. Skittles! - Not really strong on Caff & Thor, nor did he defend them... Some posts seem towny... some not so much... I'm neutral on him for now
7. Fircoal - Replaced by Madmitch v2 - Claimed VT - Fircoal was mostly absent, and his few posts weren't the best. Mitch has been fighting for his life ever since he subbed in. I would rate fircoal and slightly scummy, and mitch as slightly towny, making him neutral for now
8. Samlen - Voted Caff early on, otherwise not much of note in his posts. Neutral to maybe cult?
9. Minister Masket - Was on Caff early, claimed he was the one who shot Thor, pretty much as much town as he can be.
10. Benga - Jailed Caff and started the case on him, was also suspicious of thor. Makes him pretty town.
11. Hotshot53 - Tracker, counter-claimed Caff to get the lynch, obviouisly town
12. Thorthoth - Dead - Saren - Day 3 Day kill
13. DoomYoshi - Was on Caff early. I didn't like him asking mitch v2 about mitch v1, but otherwise he seems to be more town posting. I was actually expecting to read him as scum... but after re-reading his posts I'll lean town on him.
14. lord voldemort - nothing particularly towny or scummy stood out in his posts. Neutral
15. iAmCaffeine - Dead - Sovereign Day 2 Lynch
16. TA1LGUNN3R - Not very many posts, nothing of note really other than he downplayed the possibility of cult. Netral to maybe cult
17. Skoffin - Nothing really stood out. Neutral.

Well, after all the time spent re-reading everyone, I didn't come to as many conclusions as I was hoping to... but I am most suspicious of Strike Wolf with his defense of Caff and Thor, and his lack of real scum hunting, so I will Vote Strike Wolf (I know it's probably too late in the day to get an actual lynch on him... but should at least get my vote out there for the record