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thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... k-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion.
thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... k-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion. It's illegal to do this in the United States, but no one seems to care (other than people like me).
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/07/politics/ ... index.html
The king of conservative media (or whatever) is drudging up old 19th century anti-Catholic stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 080335a3eb
A baker who doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding for religious reasons is getting his ass kicked.
Is religious freedom on the way out in the United States? Do you think we see a partial repeal of the 1st Amendment (either through an amendment or judicial activism)? Why are Democrats and liberals (and libertarians) focusing on Christians/Catholics and not other religions?
mrswdk wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... k-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion.
That article claims the judge in question says it's okay to put religious principles before the law. Doesn't sound like a very impartial judge.
That said, the fact that the US has such a thing as 'conservative judges' and 'liberal judges' shows that it doesn't really have an impartial judiciary in the first place, so I guess religious partiality probably ought to be okay as well.
Symmetry wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... k-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion. It's illegal to do this in the United States, but no one seems to care (other than people like me).
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/07/politics/ ... index.html
The king of conservative media (or whatever) is drudging up old 19th century anti-Catholic stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 080335a3eb
A baker who doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding for religious reasons is getting his ass kicked.
Is religious freedom on the way out in the United States? Do you think we see a partial repeal of the 1st Amendment (either through an amendment or judicial activism)? Why are Democrats and liberals (and libertarians) focusing on Christians/Catholics and not other religions?
Do you think that if they were excommunicated they'd oppose gay marriage.
I actually kind of agree with you on both cases. I am a little wary of people using religion as a shield though. There are plenty of Catholics who support gay marriage, after all. Being Catholic and supporting marriage isn't something that's mutually exclusive.
But you raise a larger issue, which I think is a little silly. Do you really think that other religions aren't focused on?
notyou2 wrote:I believe religions should lose their tax free exemptions.
thegreekdog wrote:mrswdk wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... k-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion.
That article claims the judge in question says it's okay to put religious principles before the law. Doesn't sound like a very impartial judge.
That said, the fact that the US has such a thing as 'conservative judges' and 'liberal judges' shows that it doesn't really have an impartial judiciary in the first place, so I guess religious partiality probably ought to be okay as well.
I believe she answered that question twice. First, she said if there is a religious reason for a judge to rule a certain way, he or she should recuse himself or herself. Second, she said that she does not put religion before the law. Regardless of what the article says, this woman does not think it's okay to put religion before the law. Also, for what it's worth, Justice Scalia was and Justice Thomas is Catholic. Justice Ginsburg is Jewish. Their religions did not influence their decisions. In any event, it is literally against the law to require a religious test for government service.
Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, the opposition may be mentioning that she's Catholic, but I think the real issue is that she's anti-abortion. There are many types of Protestants and most Muslims and various others who are also anti-abortion, so I think if she was associated with one of those she would be equally opposed.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, the opposition may be mentioning that she's Catholic, but I think the real issue is that she's anti-abortion. There are many types of Protestants and most Muslims and various others who are also anti-abortion, so I think if she was associated with one of those she would be equally opposed.
No she wouldn't. There are tons of people of Islam apologists in the pro-choice crowd, to the point of delusion. i.e. forcing the women to wear sheets over their bodies somehow empowers them.
-TG
thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... k-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion. It's illegal to do this in the United States, but no one seems to care (other than people like me).
thegreekdog wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/07/politics/ ... index.html
The king of conservative media (or whatever) is drudging up old 19th century anti-Catholic stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing
thegreekdog wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 080335a3eb
A baker who doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding for religious reasons is getting his ass kicked.
Is religious freedom on the way out in the United States? Do you think we see a partial repeal of the 1st Amendment (either through an amendment or judicial activism)? Why are Democrats and liberals (and libertarians) focusing on Christians/Catholics and not other religions?
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, the opposition may be mentioning that she's Catholic, but I think the real issue is that she's anti-abortion. There are many types of Protestants and most Muslims and various others who are also anti-abortion, so I think if she was associated with one of those she would be equally opposed.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Some relevant news items:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20726/wat ... k-berrien#
Democrats attack a super hot Catholic judicial nominee over her religion. It's illegal to do this in the United States, but no one seems to care (other than people like me).
I briefly read that, but from what I read, people are attacking (her) for being a judge with religious beliefs. No problem with opinions, people can say what they want about others, provided it isn't defamation or character assassination. I'd have an issue with her too if she were basing her judgments on either her religious beliefs or personal beliefs, rather than adhering to what the law requires. If I misread that article, my bad.thegreekdog wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/07/politics/ ... index.html
The king of conservative media (or whatever) is drudging up old 19th century anti-Catholic stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing
I don't care what comes out of Wikipedia generally. Didn't bother to read.thegreekdog wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 080335a3eb
A baker who doesn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding for religious reasons is getting his ass kicked.
Is religious freedom on the way out in the United States? Do you think we see a partial repeal of the 1st Amendment (either through an amendment or judicial activism)? Why are Democrats and liberals (and libertarians) focusing on Christians/Catholics and not other religions?
Alright, so I'm siding with the baker. Privately owned bakery, completely allowed to bar people provided the service is blanket. Sucks to be gay, go to another bakery?
thegreekdog wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, the opposition may be mentioning that she's Catholic, but I think the real issue is that she's anti-abortion. There are many types of Protestants and most Muslims and various others who are also anti-abortion, so I think if she was associated with one of those she would be equally opposed.
Then they should ask if she is anti-abortion, not whether she is Catholic.
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