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Re: Trump Wins 2017

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:57 pm

tzor wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Something like half of your governments operating expenses are for maintaining a military capable of destroying all life on earth (and regularly destroying all life in various portions of it.)


We don't talk about this out loud but our nuclear arsenal isn't what it used to be. U.S. Nuclear Weapons Capability


Read the above report. I'm assured that we still have a very deadly and very capable nuclear triad of destruction. Life as we know it would be gone within an hour after launching the first missile.

Ok, now I'm back in my corner with my blankie and thumb in my mouth, knowing President Trump has the football within reach.
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Re: Trump Wins 2017

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:17 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:
tzor wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Something like half of your governments operating expenses are for maintaining a military capable of destroying all life on earth (and regularly destroying all life in various portions of it.)


We don't talk about this out loud but our nuclear arsenal isn't what it used to be. U.S. Nuclear Weapons Capability


Read the above report. I'm assured that we still have a very deadly and very capable nuclear triad of destruction. Life as we know it would be gone within an hour after launching the first missile.

Ok, now I'm back in my corner with my blankie and thumb in my mouth, knowing President Trump has the football within reach.


Even Obama called for nuclear force updates. A nuke isn't very dangerous if it just sits there because the 50 year old rocket it's mounted on is rusted into its silo.
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Re: Trump Wins 2017

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:48 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Yes, I waited a couple months for an MRI. So what?


If I ever had to have an MRI I would want and expect it within 72 hours regardless of the reason.

Eliminating waiting periods involves creating excess capacity. Regardless of what system you use, excess capacity cost big bucks. It's a huge waste building twice as many MRI machines as you need just so people have the luxury of 72-hour service for non-essential procedures. That kind of stupid wastefulness is going to cost you. Regardless of whether it's a government-run system and you pay for it with your taxes, or it's a privately-run system and you pay for it with your fees, it will cost you big bucks to have that kind of redundancy in the system.


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Dukasaur wrote:My wife, who has exceptionally bad health, has gotten several key surgeries, two of them for life threatening conditions. If I had to pay for them, there's no way I could have come up the money. She'd be dead now.


If you were in the United States, not only would you not have to pay for them* she would have received superior care from the nation who - in all likelihood - developed and invented the procedures she underwent.

* Unless you're someone who drives without a seat belt, holds lits fireworks, and chooses not to purchase health insurance, that is.

When you're a typical American wage-slave, barely surviving on your minimum wage job, deciding to put your last $500 each month on the rent instead of on health insurance isn't much of a choice. The devil or the deep blue sea. If you don't pay the rent, you'll be out in the cold and probably dead soon. If you don't pay the health insurance, you may be dead when cancer comes knocking, but that might not be for another 20 years. Lot of rent payments between now and then....

Don't play stupid. People being kept in poverty through your employment policies have enough to do to pay the rent and heat. Out -of-pocket health insurance is within their reach like a Maserati.

Oh, and paranthetically, Canadian healthcare outcomes are significantly better than American outcomes.
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Re: Trump Wins 2017

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:04 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:
tzor wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Something like half of your governments operating expenses are for maintaining a military capable of destroying all life on earth (and regularly destroying all life in various portions of it.)


We don't talk about this out loud but our nuclear arsenal isn't what it used to be. U.S. Nuclear Weapons Capability


Read the above report. I'm assured that we still have a very deadly and very capable nuclear triad of destruction. Life as we know it would be gone within an hour after launching the first missile.

Ok, now I'm back in my corner with my blankie and thumb in my mouth, knowing President Trump has the football within reach.


Even Obama called for nuclear force updates. A nuke isn't very dangerous if it just sits there because the 50 year old rocket it's mounted on is rusted into its silo.


Nice to know a known Putin dik sukr is not afraid of the US military/industrial complex.
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Re: Trump Wins 2017

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:30 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:Nice to know a known Putin dik sukr is not afraid of the US military/industrial complex.
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