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Postby dominationnation on Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:04 pm

Now that I think about it the cult theory doesnt make any sense. I have never played in a game with masons before. Are they usually colore different? UNVOTE I also dont really believe in the MOz theory. It just doesnt add up quite right. I dont have any leads right now but will wait for further evidence.
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Postby Selin on Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:17 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Selin I'm pretty sure if you pm Aimless he can give you all of the investigations and the results being that you weren't on the role at that time.


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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:39 pm

actually he probably would ask ak about if he had sent xen any pms regarding investigations and if so allow you to get them. if ak says he didn't then we'll just be sol on that.
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Postby autoload on Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:48 pm

nagerous wrote:One thing I do think that makes moz looks suspicious is what AK_Iceman said immediately at the beginning of day 3. He had a theory on Moz which he was 90% sure was correct or something along those lines. At that point he did not want to cop claim although that can be considered a mistake but maybe during night 2 he investigated Moz and he came out scum and the whole "not online at the weekend" was just an 2nd theory for not cop claiming and announcing an investigation on Moz.


Good Posting. Worth following up on.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:49 pm

Vote Moz as that is the best lead that we have right now
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Postby for dummies on Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:25 pm

i disagree with both of these things. after the whole not here on weekends things died down ak never puched for moz anymore. if he had reallly got a scum reading on moz then he wouldn't have stopped pushing for his lynch. but on the other hand regular masons are colored the normal townie green assuming they aren't bad masons. so if the dudes were just masons with special powers then they should have been plain green. the fact that they are orange leads me to believe that they are something more, maybe a cult.
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Postby Selin on Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:38 pm

i got response both from aimless and xenhu. the only thing xenhu knew was that wicked was mafia. so nothing new.

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Postby autoload on Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:16 pm

for dummies wrote:i disagree with both of these things. after the whole not here on weekends things died down ak never puched for moz anymore. if he had reallly got a scum reading on moz then he wouldn't have stopped pushing for his lynch. but on the other hand regular masons are colored the normal townie green assuming they aren't bad masons. so if the dudes were just masons with special powers then they should have been plain green. the fact that they are orange leads me to believe that they are something more, maybe a cult.


Not true. I've been Cop several times with guilty investigation results and most of the time you are not going to be able to convince the town why a guilty person should be lynched without revealing your role. So when this happens you just have to tuck away the information and wait for them to mess up and exploit it.

Recall that AK was very upset that he was killed before given the chance to share his investigation results.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:16 pm

I personally think you're reading too much into the color code theory. We all started as that color as we are the royalty faction which depends on the royalty having a survivor.

Damn about only knowing about wicked.
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Postby Incandenza on Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:56 pm

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for dummies wrote:i disagree with both of these things. after the whole not here on weekends things died down ak never puched for moz anymore. if he had reallly got a scum reading on moz then he wouldn't have stopped pushing for his lynch. but on the other hand regular masons are colored the normal townie green assuming they aren't bad masons. so if the dudes were just masons with special powers then they should have been plain green. the fact that they are orange leads me to believe that they are something more, maybe a cult.


Not true. I've been Cop several times with guilty investigation results and most of the time you are not going to be able to convince the town why a guilty person should be lynched without revealing your role. So when this happens you just have to tuck away the information and wait for them to mess up and exploit it.

Recall that AK was very upset that he was killed before given the chance to share his investigation results.


Good one. Plus, AK put out feelers on moz on day 2. No way would AK really push it that early in the game and risk being exposed as the cop. Granted, AK's theory at the time was flawed, but sometimes it's enough to float a theory and hope someone else runs with it...
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Postby Talapus on Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:49 pm

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Incandenza wrote:I'm less than thrilled with the cult thing. It presupposes a bunch of incredible coincidences to say that xen recruited AK and tonka, who both happen to be the sheriff and guisborne, respectively. Especially with tonka killing AK...

I'm bummed that I was wrong with willis, but there's still at least one mafia out there, and moz is still at the top of my list. Unless someone can tell me I'm being insane, I'm still operating under the assumption that tonka's death was called in after he revealed himself by killing AK. Now moz strikes me as the intelligent type. He's also a mod and on the site quite often. He could very well have been watching tonka kill AK, then he PMed aimless with the hit, then all of a sudden it happens right away, and he doesn't post for fear of being associated with the event...

It's loose, but it's better than any other case I can build at the moment.

So, at least FOS moz...


By that logic anyone could really be a the killer. I think there is suspicion either way. So to me that really doesn't seem like a good place to look.

I do think that it is possible that pancake could be on to something. I would like to hear what selin has to say about this. But the way it is I think that is the most solid lead we have right now.



Alright, I know I'm joining the game towards the end. But I'll still do my best to contribute. Alright, first off I think it rather suspicious that the next time we hear from moz is right after Incandenza'a theory. You just kinda came from nowhere to post a theory of your own that points conveniently away from you. And although I think pancake could be on to something, I don't thinks it's as strong a lead right now as you are.

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for dummies wrote:i disagree with both of these things. after the whole not here on weekends things died down ak never puched for moz anymore. if he had reallly got a scum reading on moz then he wouldn't have stopped pushing for his lynch. but on the other hand regular masons are colored the normal townie green assuming they aren't bad masons. so if the dudes were just masons with special powers then they should have been plain green. the fact that they are orange leads me to believe that they are something more, maybe a cult.


Not true. I've been Cop several times with guilty investigation results and most of the time you are not going to be able to convince the town why a guilty person should be lynched without revealing your role. So when this happens you just have to tuck away the information and wait for them to mess up and exploit it.

Recall that AK was very upset that he was killed before given the chance to share his investigation results.


Good one. Plus, AK put out feelers on moz on day 2. No way would AK really push it that early in the game and risk being exposed as the cop. Granted, AK's theory at the time was flawed, but sometimes it's enough to float a theory and hope someone else runs with it...


AK's early demise surely hindered the town more then it helped, but I do like this theory. I've tired to find enough facts to go off of for the cult/mason theory going around right now I just just can't find enough to make me think it's totally accurate.

However, I gotta say moz is looking pretty good right now because it appears he's just casually trying to change topics, but not openly defend himself. I think he's being somewhat sly with trying to swing the vote away from him and I think the above theory is the best one we have right now.

So,

Vote - - - moz
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Postby dominationnation on Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:52 pm

ok-you guys have convinced me. UNVOTE VOTE MOZ
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Postby Aimless on Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:53 pm

Vote Count

Selin - 1 (pancakemix)
moz - 5 (Selin, spinwizard, LSU Tiger Josh, Talapus, donminationnation)

Not Voting - 7

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

LSU, please remember to vote in red.
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Postby dominationnation on Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:53 pm

dominationnation wrote:ok-you guys have convinced me. UNVOTE VOTE MOZ
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Postby Aimless on Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:55 pm

Fast-edit. 8)
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:03 pm

sorry aimless used to using the dang bold instead of red lmao :-P Unvote Vote Moz so no one says that you gave a break on it :D
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Postby pancakemix on Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:31 pm

Very well then. But if I lose because of a cult, I'm gonna be pissed.

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Postby Aimless on Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:39 pm

Vote Count

moz - 6 (Selin, spinwizard, LSU Tiger Josh, Talapus, donminationnation, pancakemix)

Not Voting - 7

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

LSU, please remember to vote in red.
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Postby Incandenza on Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:47 pm

Okay, we're at lynch -1, so no more votes until moz at least has a chance to roleclaim.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:43 pm

pancakemix wrote:Very well then. But if I lose because of a cult, I'm gonna be pissed.

Unvote

Vote Moz


Understandable pancake, but being that I never was told about having or being in a cult I don't believe it to be true.
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Postby nagerous on Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:57 am

Lets hear a role claim before I drop the hammer.
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Postby moz976 on Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:10 am

Talapus wrote:However, I gotta say moz is looking pretty good right now because it appears he's just casually trying to change topics, but not openly defend himself. I think he's being somewhat sly with trying to swing the vote away from him and I think the above theory is the best one we have right now.



Well unfortunately as a peasant I really don't have much of a defense to lay out. This is as far as I've ever gone being a townie so I'm pretty proud of that . At least after my death the town should still have the numbers to find some real mafia. I just hope there isn't a cult because every night that you let the leader live is another member of the cult added to their group.
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Postby dominationnation on Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:57 pm

moz976 wrote:
Talapus wrote:However, I gotta say moz is looking pretty good right now because it appears he's just casually trying to change topics, but not openly defend himself. I think he's being somewhat sly with trying to swing the vote away from him and I think the above theory is the best one we have right now.



Well unfortunately as a peasant I really don't have much of a defense to lay out. This is as far as I've ever gone being a townie so I'm pretty proud of that . At least after my death the town should still have the numbers to find some real mafia. I just hope there isn't a cult because every night that you let the leader live is another member of the cult added to their group.

pesant hmmm. I dont know. I think that it would be to easy to claim that. I think that you are lying.
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Postby nagerous on Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:56 pm

I'm not sure now because what he says on page 3 seems to link in with the peasant role claim and I kinda trust it.
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Postby dominationnation on Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:59 pm

nagerous wrote:I'm not sure now because what he says on page 3 seems to link in with the peasant role claim and I kinda trust it.
I believe that you have the wrong page number. Moz didnt say anything on page 3
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