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Should attempted rape disqualify someone from office?

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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:44 pm

Neoteny wrote:Lmao whom amongst us has not thrown a beer at a guy we thought was the lead singer of UB40?

He said that the altercation happened after a UB40 concert, when he and a group of people went to Demery’s and were drinking pints. At one point, they were sitting near a man who, they thought, resembled Ali Campbell, the lead singer of UB40.

“We’re trying to figure out if it’s him,” he said.

When the man noticed Mr. Ludington, Mr. Kavanaugh and the others looking at him, he objected and aggressively asked them to stop, Mr. Ludington said.

It was then, he said, that Mr. Kavanaugh “threw his beer at the guy.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/p ... fight.html

Just a normal guy having a normal night out on the town.


Nice! Kavanaugh sounds like a cool guy and a hilarious bro. I'd like to have a SCOTUS judge I could chill with; with Ginsburg I'm sure it would be a trip to Baskin-Robbins for vanilla ice cream and a discussion of dialectical materialism and the pros/cons of adult diapers.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:56 pm

Symmetry wrote:Update time:

Turns out that the FBI can investigate.
Also turns out that the White House is interfering with the investigation.
More evidence turned up that Kavanaugh lied under oath.
Matt Damon brilliantly mocked Kavanaugh on SNL.

Another tough week for Kavanuagh.


White House is not interfering with the investigation. Otherwise, spot on.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Neoteny on Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:14 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Neoteny wrote:Lmao whom amongst us has not thrown a beer at a guy we thought was the lead singer of UB40?

He said that the altercation happened after a UB40 concert, when he and a group of people went to Demery’s and were drinking pints. At one point, they were sitting near a man who, they thought, resembled Ali Campbell, the lead singer of UB40.

“We’re trying to figure out if it’s him,” he said.

When the man noticed Mr. Ludington, Mr. Kavanaugh and the others looking at him, he objected and aggressively asked them to stop, Mr. Ludington said.

It was then, he said, that Mr. Kavanaugh “threw his beer at the guy.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/p ... fight.html

Just a normal guy having a normal night out on the town.


Nice! Kavanaugh sounds like a cool guy and a hilarious bro. I'd like to have a SCOTUS judge I could chill with*; with Ginsburg I'm sure it would be a trip to Baskin-Robbins for vanilla ice cream and a discussion of dialectical materialism and the pros/cons of adult diapers.


*may include being concussed by a beer bottle from a bucktoothed yalie.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Neoteny on Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:39 pm

It's a shame the filibuster got nuked. A UB40-centered filibuster would surely have been a high point in US politics.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:12 pm

Neoteny wrote:It's a shame the filibuster got nuked. A UB40-centered filibuster would surely have been a high point in US politics.


What's your favorite UB40 song? Red Red Wine? My favorite is Bring Me Your Cup.

Oh and Matt Damon was a big Harvey Weinstein guy so I thought he probably should have sat out the Kavanaugh thing. But, hey, pretty white Hollywood boy doing his thing gets the sheep riled up, so why not? I also loved the Grassley "I already voted for Kavanuagh" dig when, well, SNL could have done the same thing with the Dems, but again, why mess up a perfectly good message?
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Neoteny on Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:30 pm

I'm assuming I've heard a UB40 song other than Wine, but I honestly couldn't tell you another song by them. My mom had that album on cassette.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Neoteny on Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:34 pm

Lots of good stuff about Kavanaugh's buddies.

Mark Judge is a gamergater? lol

Chris Dudley getting yammed on by Shaq.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:43 pm

Neoteny wrote:I'm assuming I've heard a UB40 song other than Wine, but I honestly couldn't tell you another song by them. My mom had that album on cassette.


A girl I dated in college listened to two musicians - UB40 and Annie DiFranco. I heard a ton of borderline reggae sex music and feminist acoustic emo for a 6 month period of time.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Neoteny on Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:57 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Neoteny wrote:I'm assuming I've heard a UB40 song other than Wine, but I honestly couldn't tell you another song by them. My mom had that album on cassette.


A girl I dated in college listened to two musicians - UB40 and Annie DiFranco. I heard a ton of borderline reggae sex music and feminist acoustic emo for a 6 month period of time.


No wonder you turned out the way you are. My dorm mate freshman year went asleep exclusively to Enya and Phil Collins. Not Genesis, just Phil.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:13 pm

lololololol



The story of Accuser #3 (Swetnick) just totally collapsed in an NBC interview. This is the woman who has previously had a restraining order out against her after she threatened to murder the wife of one of her ex boyfriends, has a history of suing her past employers for sexual harassment, whose Kavanaugh story involves her going to high school parties as a university sophomore, and who was once fired for lying on her resume. This is what went down in the NBC interview ...

    1. Her claimed witnesses don't really exist

    Once again, an accuser names a bunch of corroborating witnesses who have no clue what she's talking about.

    In this case, Swetnick swore under oath she had witnesses who could corroborate her story. When NBC asked her to name them she gave them four names. NBC then tried to contact said witnesses, and found that one of them was dead, one said she had no idea who Swetnick even was, and the other two said "no comment."

    2. She back peddles under questioning, changes story

    "NBC News, for the record, has not been able to independently verify her claims. There are things she told us on camera that differ from her written statements last week. Swetnick did not confirm that she saw Kavanaugh spike punch, one of the claims from her affidavit, she instead said that she merely "saw him around punch containers." "I don’t know what he did," she added.

It's now confirmed Swetnick is a liar. If Swetnick is a liar, can we just assume Ford also lied?

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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby mrswdk on Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:58 am

Neoteny wrote:I'm assuming I've heard a UB40 song other than Wine, but I honestly couldn't tell you another song by them. My mom had that album on cassette.


I think that 'rat in the kitchen' song is also UB40.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby mrswdk on Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:18 am

saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
$10k per year when your parents grew up on $3k per year feels better than $25k per year when your parents grew up on $35k per year.


This is actually a statement that goes straight to the core of the matter.


Ok, how so vis a vis sexual assault?


Male-on-male rape was only made criminal in China in 2015. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 18276.html)

Coincidentally, that was about the time mrswdk was living there.


Countries often become more egalitarian after I roll through them.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:18 am

Rachel Mitchell, the committee's independent sex crimes prosecutor, has just released her report which finds Ford's claims against Kav are not credible.

Rachel Mitchell, the deputy county attorney in charge of the Special Victims Division in Maricopa County, Arizona, said her "bottom line" was that "a 'he said, she said' case is incredibly difficult to prove."

"But this case is even weaker than that," Mitchell wrote. "Dr. Ford identified other witnesses to the event, and those witnesses either refuted her allegations or failed to corroborate them."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna915236
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Neoteny on Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:27 am

So, after sleeping on it, I've concluded that Saxi may have a point. Attempting assault on a white reggae singer might be the most relatable thing we know about the judge. But imagine seeing this guy in a New Haven bar in the 80s and thinking, "I know exactly who this is."

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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:45 pm

saxitoxin wrote:lololololol



The story of Accuser #3 (Swetnick) just totally collapsed in an NBC interview. This is the woman who has previously had a restraining order out against her after she threatened to murder the wife of one of her ex boyfriends, has a history of suing her past employers for sexual harassment, whose Kavanaugh story involves her going to high school parties as a university sophomore, and who was once fired for lying on her resume. This is what went down in the NBC interview ...

    1. Her claimed witnesses don't really exist

    Once again, an accuser names a bunch of corroborating witnesses who have no clue what she's talking about.

    In this case, Swetnick swore under oath she had witnesses who could corroborate her story. When NBC asked her to name them she gave them four names. NBC then tried to contact said witnesses, and found that one of them was dead, one said she had no idea who Swetnick even was, and the other two said "no comment."

    2. She back peddles under questioning, changes story

    "NBC News, for the record, has not been able to independently verify her claims. There are things she told us on camera that differ from her written statements last week. Swetnick did not confirm that she saw Kavanaugh spike punch, one of the claims from her affidavit, she instead said that she merely "saw him around punch containers." "I don’t know what he did," she added.


It's getting even WORSE for Kav liars!

A journalist and former Democratic politician has signed an affidavir saying he used to know Swetnick and she fucked so many men he thought she might be a prostitute. He also claims that Swetnick told him she used to get DP'ed, double vaged, and ass-vaged-double mouthed all the time in high school but never mentioned it not being consensual. He says he was also told by her father that she was mentally insane.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... -candidate
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Neoteny on Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:45 pm

So, it's not like the case for perjury can get any more solid, but it can apparently get more embarrassing. Like, we all did dumbshit stuff as kids, but not all of us have the shortage of integrity to lie to the senate about it. Ol' Bart was clearly a heavy drinker and an aggressive and belligerent one. That's ok and all, as long as you aren't assaulting people, but to lie so readily...

warn the neighbors that we’re loud, obnoxious drunks with prolific pukers among us. Advise them to go about 30 miles...”


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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby mookiemcgee on Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:16 pm

Saw this today on FB....


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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby HitRed on Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:19 pm

So you're saying Trump is a MASTER. Super smart...best of the best. Playing turns ahead of the democrats in a game of political and national Chess. Wow, someone just figured it out. :o
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Symmetry on Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:34 pm

HitRed wrote:So you're saying Trump is a MASTER. Super smart...best of the best. Playing turns ahead of the democrats in a game of political and national Chess. Wow, someone just figured it out. :o


I kinda doubt that.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby HitRed on Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:38 pm

Symmetry wrote:
HitRed wrote:So you're saying Trump is a MASTER. Super smart...best of the best. Playing turns ahead of the democrats in a game of political and national Chess. Wow, someone just figured it out. :o


I kinda doubt that.


He predicted NAFTA would get rewritten replaced. Lucky campaign guess?
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Symmetry on Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:48 pm

HitRed wrote:
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HitRed wrote:So you're saying Trump is a MASTER. Super smart...best of the best. Playing turns ahead of the democrats in a game of political and national Chess. Wow, someone just figured it out. :o


I kinda doubt that.


He predicted NAFTA would get rewritten. Lucky campaign guess?


Well, he is the president, like it or not. He didn't rewrite NAFTA though.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby HitRed on Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:55 pm

Symmetry wrote:
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HitRed wrote:So you're saying Trump is a MASTER. Super smart...best of the best. Playing turns ahead of the democrats in a game of political and national Chess. Wow, someone just figured it out. :o


I kinda doubt that.


He predicted NAFTA would get rewritten. Lucky campaign guess?


Well, he is the president, like it or not. He didn't rewrite NAFTA though.


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