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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby tzor on Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:59 am

jimboston wrote:Your idiotic posts drive paying customers away.


The constant stream of complaints tend to drive most people away, but away from the forums.
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby tzor on Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:09 am

jimboston wrote:I understand the ‘left’ can be annoying and that ‘political correctness’ has been taken way too far.

That said, the ‘right’ still has many areas where censorship is their thing....
- The ‘Right’ wants to censor groups like Planned Parenthood from talking about Abortion as an option... in some states doctors or clinics that receive government funding are forbidden from speaking about all the options available to pregnant women.
- The ‘Right’ in many states interjects their political and religious views into public school curriculum.... they demand that “Creationism” be covered by teachers as equal to Evolution, yet one is a religious belief and the other is a scientific fact.

I’m sure if we thought bout it we’d find more current day examples.

Yes, ‘political correctness’ is annoying and often goes to far... but I could argue that the involvement of the ‘right’ in pushing science to the side and interjecting religion is more damaging to our country long-term than a little ‘political correctness’ run amok.


I believe you are referring to a federal law that bans federal money to organizations that provide abortion. Planned Parenthood was trying to have its cake and eat it to by creating "referral services" in the very facility that did the abortion for the very purpose of skirting around the law. Now they have agreed not to seek the funding by such means and the matter is settled.

Creationism is a thing that only appears in a few states, (specifically the Bible Belt) and most conservatives laugh at the idea. This is not to be confused with intelligent design which is also not something most conservatives push these days.

Mind you, even this is somewhat pointless; the opposite of progressive left thinking is actually libertarian not conservative.
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:05 am

tzor wrote:
Creationism is a thing that only appears in a few states, (specifically the Bible Belt) and most conservatives laugh at the idea. This is not to be confused with intelligent design which is also not something most conservatives push these days.


"Intelligent design" is just creationism with marketing bullshit added.
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby NomadPatriot on Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:25 am

jimboston wrote:Troll: n. Nomad Patriot

That whole last post was a (bad) attempt to Troll me.

You posts routinely meet the definition of Troll you just posted.

I think you know this and are Trolling in your denial to get more reactions... but if you honestly don’t think the majority of your posts meet that definition that you’re deluded.


I just gave you an open door to prove your claim. .to be able to say " see I here is the proof. .I am finally right!!!"
but you apparently cannot provide anything Jim..
seems this is the exact same thing that occurred with you claiming I was a Racist.. you claimed I was for months & never provided 1 single quote of mine to back-up your claims...

just seems like you constantly scream accusations at people without ever being able to prove anything...
sad... it is looking like you have been afflicted with N.D.S. Nomad Derangement Syndrome
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby NomadPatriot on Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:29 am

tzor wrote:
Mind you, even this is somewhat pointless; the opposite of progressive left thinking is actually libertarian not conservative.


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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby NomadPatriot on Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:11 am

jimboston wrote:Your idiotic posts drive paying customers away.


from what I can see... I have contributed to CC..

here is a copy & paste of what I see when I click onto the Long Necked Flying Dog forum (posted below) ..
7 out of the top 10 most active threads ( excluding the 2 permanently positioned Exclamation point threads) were created by me.. 1 of those being the longest thread ever.. { and 31 of the top 100 are mine as well.. }
so insinuating I have done nothing for CC & contributed nothing is hilarious.. nearly 1/3rd of the top 100 recently active threads are mine
all those clicks.. all that web traffic..
ad companies pay a website more the higher their clicks & web traffic is..
so.. it seems I am pulling my free membership weight very easily.. making that profit for CC..


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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby tzor on Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:27 pm

Dukasaur wrote:"Intelligent design" is just creationism with marketing bullshit added.


I'm going to disagree here. "Creationism" is a specific attempt to use a literal translation of Genesis. It then attempts to shoehorn facts into the literal narrative.

"Intelligent Design" is really a modification of the watch / watchmaker design of the age of enlightenment theists. Wikipedia's article suggests that the watchmaker analogy started with Newton and Descartes.

It does get complicated because Creationists try to use ID to make their argument, but they are a really either a subset of ID or are just abusing ID.

The real answer does complexity indicate a designer? Or does complexity indicate we are not really seeing the world through the proper rule set. (In other world the world looks complex because we are looking at the world in the wrong way that makes it seem complex.) And even if it is complex, does that demand an intelligent designer setting all the parameters that might make up the universe? Unlike the question of "but it says here that ..." this is actually an interesting philosophical debate; probably wrong but not moronically wrong.
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:42 pm

Yes, infinite recession: if a complex universe needs a watchmaker to explain it, who made the watchmaker? And who made them? And what's the time anyway?
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby jimboston on Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:39 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:
jimboston wrote:Troll: n. Nomad Patriot

That whole last post was a (bad) attempt to Troll me.

You posts routinely meet the definition of Troll you just posted.

I think you know this and are Trolling in your denial to get more reactions... but if you honestly don’t think the majority of your posts meet that definition that you’re deluded.


I just gave you an open door to prove your claim. .to be able to say " see I here is the proof. .I am finally right!!!"
but you apparently cannot provide anything Jim..


I don’t have to prove you’re a Troll.

You do all the proving yourself with every post.
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby NomadPatriot on Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:21 pm

jimboston wrote:
NomadPatriot wrote:
jimboston wrote:Troll: n. Nomad Patriot

That whole last post was a (bad) attempt to Troll me.

You posts routinely meet the definition of Troll you just posted.

I think you know this and are Trolling in your denial to get more reactions... but if you honestly don’t think the majority of your posts meet that definition that you’re deluded.


I just gave you an open door to prove your claim. .to be able to say " see I here is the proof. .I am finally right!!!"
but you apparently cannot provide anything Jim..


I don’t have to prove you’re a Troll.

You do all the proving yourself with every post.



awww Jimmy. you cannot even find 1.. so we can discuss it..

geez .. I thought it would have been so easy for you to do.... you were so adamant about it..

oh well.. I gave you a shot to prove it.. just like I did with the Racism Card you keep trying to label me with..

you just keep failing to be able to back-up your claims..
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby tzor on Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:34 pm

jimboston wrote:I don’t have to prove you’re a Troll.

You do all the proving yourself with every post.


This is a perfect example of psychological projection.
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:36 pm

So who's the most repetititve?
NoPoint?
JimBean?
Jesus in that thread on Street Corner?
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby tzor on Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:39 pm

I'm leaning on Jimbean but being a Yankees fan I might be somewhat biased here. :twisted:
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby jimboston on Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:35 pm

tzor wrote:
jimboston wrote:I don’t have to prove you’re a Troll.

You do all the proving yourself with every post.


This is a perfect example of psychological projection.


Do you disagree with the my assertion that NP’s the definition of a Troll?

I have the ability to Troll, but the vast majority of my posts aren’t trollish.
Though, when trolled often the only defense is to troll back, so my posts directed at NP may be trollish.
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby NomadPatriot on Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:02 pm

jimboston wrote:
tzor wrote:
jimboston wrote:I don’t have to prove you’re a Troll.

You do all the proving yourself with every post.


This is a perfect example of psychological projection.


Do you disagree with the my assertion that NP’s the definition of a Troll?

I have the ability to Troll, but the vast majority of my posts aren’t trollish.
Though, when trolled often the only defense is to troll back, so my posts directed at NP may be trollish.


so Jim admits being a troll . but cannot prove I am a troll..

I agree w/ Tzor .. Psychological Projection at it's finest
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:27 am

tzor wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:"Intelligent design" is just creationism with marketing bullshit added.


I'm going to disagree here. "Creationism" is a specific attempt to use a literal translation of Genesis. It then attempts to shoehorn facts into the literal narrative.

"Intelligent Design" is really a modification of the watch / watchmaker design of the age of enlightenment theists. Wikipedia's article suggests that the watchmaker analogy started with Newton and Descartes.

It does get complicated because Creationists try to use ID to make their argument, but they are a really either a subset of ID or are just abusing ID.

Have you met a non-doctrinal theist?

I'm pretty sure I haven't. I know it was an important strand of philosophy from the late 17th Century to the mid-19th, but I think it pretty much died out. I suppose there are still some out there, just like there are theoretically still some Zoroastrians out there, but the niche that was occupied by non-doctrinal theists is now mostly filled by "Mild" agnostics that allow for the possibility of a god but don't challenge a scientific worldview.

So, yes, they may be drawing on an older tradition, but in modern times the people selling ID are just Creationists who know how indefensible their position is and are trying to sneak in a variant.

tzor wrote:The real answer does complexity indicate a designer? Or does complexity indicate we are not really seeing the world through the proper rule set. (In other world the world looks complex because we are looking at the world in the wrong way that makes it seem complex.) And even if it is complex, does that demand an intelligent designer setting all the parameters that might make up the universe? Unlike the question of "but it says here that ..." this is actually an interesting philosophical debate; probably wrong but not moronically wrong.

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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby KoolBak on Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:28 am

Jimbo-

Dude, re-trolling IS an option in trolling response. IMHO, however, it is NOT the only option. You're obviously a smart, cool guy.

The tool obviously sits and feverishly waits for every reply he can mind-numbingly reply to, ad nauseum. Retrolling simply feeds the animal. I picture a Pavlov environment....little ding when someone replies and here comes the drool.

Just stop interacting with the annoying punk. You'll feel better....I know I do. Eventually his antics will get him axed (sooner rather than later, PLEASE).

On the subject of annoying fukstix, what happened with the burn? He was ousted? AGAIN....lol. His first outing was in part at least due to some interaction with me, so I AM THRILLED that bonehead is gone. Is it permanent?
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby NomadPatriot on Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:07 am

KoolBak wrote:Jimbo, You're obviously a smart, cool guy.


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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby tzor on Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:06 pm

Dukasaur wrote:Have you met a non-doctrinal theist?

I'm pretty sure I haven't. I know it was an important strand of philosophy from the late 17th Century to the mid-19th, but I think it pretty much died out.


I'm not sure you would recognize one if you talked to one. ID tended to die out in the 19th century when there was a feeling that science was pretty much settled. (It was the same arrogance that caused someone to suggest that the US Patent Office close down because everything that could be invented was invented.) Even relativity was relatively straight forward. Then came quantum mechanics, particle theory, string theory and suddenly the complexity of the universe reared its ugly head again. Most scientists who believe in god generally do so because of the complexity of the science they see before them. It may not be an exact replica of the watchmaker argument, but it gets pretty close.
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby jimboston on Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:32 pm

NP gets jealous when others are complimented?

Sorry NP, is someone else getting attention.
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby NomadPatriot on Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:50 pm

if Koolbak thinks an admitted PROUD Bigot who openly ridicules lower class people is 'smart & cool..'

then your entitled to your single glory Jimmy..
sounds like love to me..
you might have yourself a keeper!

good job!!
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby jimboston on Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:56 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:if Koolbak thinks an admitted PROUD Bigot who openly ridicules lower class people is 'smart & cool..'

then your entitled to your single glory Jimmy..
sounds like love to me..
you might have yourself a keeper!

good job!!


Unlike you, I don’t need the Internet for validation.

I’m sorry nobody said they liked you.

(It’s funny you keep harping on that “Proud Bigot” thing. So all bigotry is bad?)
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Postby NomadPatriot on Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:46 pm

jimboston wrote:(It’s funny you keep harping on that “Proud Bigot” thing. So all bigotry is bad?)


you even asking the question shows exactly what kind of person you really are..

if you can not perceive the concept that all bigotry is bad.. you need help..
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Re: don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

Postby jimboston on Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:42 pm

NomadPatriot wrote:
jimboston wrote:(It’s funny you keep harping on that “Proud Bigot” thing. So all bigotry is bad?)


you even asking the question shows exactly what kind of person you really are..

if you can not perceive the concept that all bigotry is bad.. you need help..


You like definitions...

Bigotry:
noun
- intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.
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Now I specified one or two specific subjects in which my I am confident enough in my opinion that I feel it’s valid to be intolerant of the opposing idea.

I never once stated I was bigoted in every subject, but only in a specific list. The main idea where I stated I was Proud to be Bigoted about racism.
Wherein I said I was proud to be bigoted towards racists / racism.

So... here is a specific example where being bigoted is good. We shouldn’t tolerate racists or racism.

Yet you just said “all bigotry is bad”. So based on that logic, you feel we should be tolerant of people who hold racist views.

THOSE ARE HOW YOUR WORDS AND YOUR CRITIQUES OF ME PLAY OUT LOGICALLY.

You have just stated you feel it’s good to be tolerant of racists.

So either you should acknowledge you were wrong... or confirm this.

... and if you confirm this, well I say the only people who are tolerant of racists are racists.

It’s an idea we should kill... and if you think we should tolerate the idea then you’re essentially supporting it.

So which is it Nomad, are you wrong or are you Racist.

One or the other please... those are your only choices.
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