coronavirus - The Legacy

[HitRed]

This is like saying, "Why didn't my parents put all my college money into Apple stock?"

Please post the other time line of the Mayor of New York reaction on day one.

[jonesthecurl]

March 28, 20

I see you and your heart, how hard you are trying to trust and believe in my power to do all things. I can do much where there is trust and faith in me. I come to lift the hearts of the world at this time of trial and pain.

Come to me the one true God of Heaven and earth. I am the way out of any situation. I am the light that leads the way for all who look to me. Keep your eyes fixed on me the true God of Heaven. I have seen the face of Heavenly Father, he is saddened and grieves for those that have contracted this virus. I have come with my mercy and strength for all who look to me with their hearts. I too grieve for those that have and will lose their life to this virus. Come to me always, I have the way to eternal peace.

Search the Heavens for the gifts of Heaven. I am the way for all believers and nonbelievers alike. My way is straight and true. Follow my will and you will be set free from this evil.

Go on my love and my mercy.

What's the matter? Not enough people reading Jesus in "his own" thread, you have to repeat it here?

[saxitoxin]

Dr Fauci has just announced that the USA could be heading for a death toll between 100 and 200 thousand.

The coronavirus outbreak could kill 100,000 to 200,000 Americans, the government’s top infectious diseases expert warned on Sunday.

Dr Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN’s State of the Union that millions would be infected by the virus.

Dr Fauci, a leading member of President Donald Trump’s coronavirus task force, added, however: “I don’t want to be held to that ... It’s such a moving target that you can so easily be wrong and mislead people.”

I've no doubt that's true. However, thanks to the decisive action President Trump took early on, the U.S. will come out ahead and on-top of Europe for impact of COVID-19, meaning per capita deaths among Americans will always be a fraction of the worst-hit countries.

We may well and up with 5,000 dead per million. But the body counts in Europe will never pause or stop. They will continue increasing as we!l. If there's a logarithmic increase in deaths in Italy they will have 140,000 deaths per million when we hit 5,000 ... in other words nearly 15% of the Italian nation will be wiped out.

Of course, there won't be a logarithmic increase as eventually Europe will "max out" the potential lethality of the disease. However, when per capita deaths hit 300 per million - which they will pretty soon - supply chains will start to collapse. With Europe being an importer of fuel and food this means the loss of mechanization and loss of sustaining nutrition which will bring on a second-wave of death from starvation, social collapse, and war. If Dr. Facui's predictions come to pass, you are looking at the end of the EU experiment (even if Dr. Facui is wrong, the EU is probably toast now anyway).

[mookiemcgee]

Dr Fauci has just announced that the USA could be heading for a death toll between 100 and 200 thousand.

The coronavirus outbreak could kill 100,000 to 200,000 Americans, the government’s top infectious diseases expert warned on Sunday.

Dr Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN’s State of the Union that millions would be infected by the virus.

Dr Fauci, a leading member of President Donald Trump’s coronavirus task force, added, however: “I don’t want to be held to that ... It’s such a moving target that you can so easily be wrong and mislead people.”

I've no doubt that's true. However, thanks to the decisive action President Trump took early on, the U.S. will come out ahead and on-top of Europe for impact of COVID-19, meaning per capita deaths among Americans will always be a fraction of the worst-hit countries.

We may well and up with 5,000 dead per million. But the body counts in Europe will never pause or stop. They will continue increasing as we!l. If there's a logarithmic increase in deaths in Italy they will have 140,000 deaths per million when we hit 5,000 ... in other words nearly 15% of the Italian nation will be wiped out. Other European states face equally grim futures.

The bigger problem for Europe is that when per capita deaths hit 300 per million - which they will pretty soon - supply chains will start to collapse. With Europe being an importer of fuel and food this means the loss of mechanization and loss of sustaining nutrition which will bring on a second-wave of death from starvation and social collapse.

If Dr. Facui's predictions come to pass, you are looking at the total collapse into anarchy of Italy and Spain, which will bring down the entire EU and probably plunge the content into a new war.

Thankfully my business on Friday received via airfreight all the supplies we need for the whole calendar year from our Spanish supplier! Talk about beating a 'dead-line' (too soon?)

[saxitoxin]

Thankfully my business on Friday received via airfreight all the supplies we need for the whole calendar year from our Spanish supplier!

for those who don't know, mookiemcgee is a human trafficker

[mookiemcgee]

Thankfully my business on Friday received via airfreight all the supplies we need for the whole calendar year from our Spanish supplier!

for those who don't know, mookiemcgee is a human trafficker

No Saxi, you are not invited to my island. We are trying to keep the diseased people out.

[jusplay4fun]

The Trump Administration was slow to react to the COVID-19 Virus Response:

The Trump administration’s botched coronavirus response, explained

From insufficient testing to a lack of coordination, Trump’s Covid-19 response has been a disaster years in the making.

President Donald Trump’s failure to respond to the coronavirus pandemic didn’t begin with the administration’s inability to send out the millions of test kits and the protective medicalgear for health care workers that experts say are needed to tackle the crisis. It didn’t start with Trump’s bungled messaging downplaying the crisis even as it’s worsened, nor with his insistence that social distancing measures could be lifted by Easter (April 12).

It began in April 2018 — more than a year and a half before the SARS-CoV-2 virus and the disease it causes, Covid-19, sickened enough people in China that authorities realized they were dealing with a new disease.

The Trump administration, with John Bolton newly at the helm of the White House National Security Council, began dismantling the team in charge of pandemic response, firing its leadership and disbanding the team in spring 2018.

The cuts, coupled with the administration’s repeated calls to cut the budget for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other public health agencies, made it clear that the Trump administration wasn’t prioritizing the federal government’s ability to respond to disease outbreaks.

That lack of attention to preparedness, experts say, helps explain why the Trump administration has consistently botched its response to the coronavirus pandemic.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/14/21177509/coronavirus-trump-covid-19-pandemic-response

[saxitoxin]

The Trump Administration was slow to react to the COVID-19 Virus Response:

And yet the Trump Administration is presiding over a country with 1/30th the number of fatalities as Italy, with 1/20 of Spain, with 1/6th as France ...

I'll take what the anti-Trump lying press vox.com calls Trump's "botched response" over Europe's wonderfully effective response any day of the week. The lying press have jumped the shark so thoroughly on this - their propaganda is now so disconnected from reality and hard facts - it's amazing anyone with half-a-brain cell is still being bamboozled by them. (Though, based on the Chief's increasing approval ratings, it seems like most Americans, except a few in this thread, have now tuned them out completely.)

[jusplay4fun]

You think that the FEW who post here are representative of the US citizens? Dream on.

When all else fails, either 1) attack the source and 2) do not deny the evidence. This is called a "red herring".

something, especially a clue, that is or is intended to be misleading or distracting.
"the book is fast-paced, exciting, and full of red herrings"

The Trump Administration was slow to react to the COVID-19 Virus Response:

And yet the Trump Administration is presiding over a country with 1/30th the number of fatalities as Italy, with 1/20 of Spain, with 1/6th as France ...

I'll take what the anti-Trump lying press vox.com calls Trump's "botched response" over Europe's wonderfully effective response any day of the week. The lying press have jumped the shark so thoroughly on this - their propaganda is now so disconnected from reality and hard facts - it's amazing anyone with half-a-brain cell is still being bamboozled by them. (Though, based on the Chief's increasing approval ratings, it seems like most Americans, except a few in this thread, have now tuned them out completely.)

[saxitoxin]

When all else fails, either 1) attack the source and 2) do not deny the evidence. This is called a "red herring".

If the Trump Administration had such a bumbled response, why do we have 1/30th the number of per capita fatalities as Italy, 1/20 of Spain, 1/6th as France? Sources are useless if you don't have the ability to apply critical thinking; if you choose to treat your mind like an empty kettle into which anyone can pour anything. The relentlessly lying and biased Vox just told you the sky is green and - even though you can simply turn your head up to see for yourself - you've chosen to believe it.

Since JP4F simply accepts the veracity of anything he reads without critical thought, I'll pour this into his brain.

Trump’s policies will be vindicated in the wake of coronavirus

https://nypost.com/2020/03/21/trumps-po ... ronavirus/

I don't know what it says since I didn't read it myself. Those who are able to process original thoughts don't need op-eds from the lying press.

But JP4F has posited that mere words on a screen are all it takes to convince him, not strength of position. So there they are. Words on a screen.

[saxitoxin]

The Chief yesterday supervised the departure of USNS Comfort from Naval Station Norfolk to New York. Great video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ols_AaLaV1k&t=21m45s


I don't always agree with President Trump and this is one of those times. He should have sent it to Florida. New York should be written off as a total loss; the markets and exchanges should be evacuated to Dallas and the five boroughs irradiated. The Rat governor Cuomo has mismanaged the situation there too thoroughly. I believe Trump's merciful nature may have led him to the wrong decision here.

[jonesthecurl]

When all else fails, either 1) attack the source and 2) do not deny the evidence. This is called a "red herring".

If the Trump Administration had such a bumbled response, why do we have 1/30th the number of per capita fatalities as Italy, 1/20 of Spain, 1/6th as France? Sources are useless if you don't have the ability to apply critical thinking; if you choose to treat your mind like an empty kettle into which anyone can pour anything. The relentlessly lying and biased Vox just told you the sky is green and - even though you can simply turn your head up to see for yourself - you've chosen to believe it.

Since JP4F simply accepts the veracity of anything he reads without critical thought, I'll pour this into his brain.

Trump’s policies will be vindicated in the wake of coronavirus

https://nypost.com/2020/03/21/trumps-po ... ronavirus/

I don't know what it says since I didn't read it myself. Those who are able to process original thoughts don't need op-eds from the lying press.

But JP4F has posited that mere words on a screen are all it takes to convince him, not strength of position. So there they are. Words on a screen.

What happened to being safer from covid than lightning?

[jonesthecurl]

Incidentally, the US is now getting a third of the world's new cases. Thanks Obama Trump!

[Dukasaur]

If the Trump Administration had such a bumbled response, why do we have 1/30th the number of per capita fatalities as Italy, 1/20 of Spain, 1/6th as France?

While you're asking yourself those questions, you might ask yourself why is your per capita death rate higher than Germany's? Or Greece's?

Why is your per capita death rate double South Korea's, which at one point was the 2nd hardest-hit?

Why is you per capita death rate five times higher than China's?

Why is you per capita death rate five time higher than Canada's, the country that probably is most comparable to the U.S. in geography and demographics?

Why is it 10 times higher than Australia's, one of the countries that was hit hard and early?

Why is it 20 times higher than Hong Kong's?

Constantly slapping yourself on the back because you haven't suffered as much as a few of the hardest-hit countries is foolish. I'm sure I can run faster than Stephen Hawking, but I don't congratulate myself for it.

There's no doubt whatsoever that Trump's colossal hubris in refusing the WHO tests when they were offered, and then his lackadaisical approach in introducing testing in the U.S., will cost American lives. How many, we don't know yet, but it could be 500,000.

[saxitoxin]

If the Trump Administration had such a bumbled response, why do we have 1/30th the number of per capita fatalities as Italy, 1/20 of Spain, 1/6th as France?

While you're asking yourself those questions, you might ask yourself why is your per capita death rate higher than Germany's? Or Greece's?

Why is the per capita death rate of North Dakota lower than Germany? Why is the per capita death rate of Missouri lower than Greece? Why is the per capita death rate of the United States lower than the European Union?

You can slice, divide, massage, and manipulate geographies however you want to try to reinforce your biased worldview. But simple facts speak for themselves, and the facts say Trump's policy worked.

If you disagree, let's have a bet - if the U.S.' per capita death rate is lower than the EU as of May 1 you'll quit CC. Otherwise I will. Deal? Or just more empty boasting? More rants without consequences?

[saxitoxin]

Death Watch Europe: March 30

Topline:

EU Dead Beyond Comparison: The EU now has 22,437 dead compared to 2,458 in the U.S. and 3,300 in China.

Catastrophe in Spain: 838 Spaniards died just yesterday, equal to 1/3 of all deaths in the last 30 days in the U.S. (which is 20 times larger than Spain)

Belgium in State of Collapse: Country ticks up one further notch in grim death stats; people wailing, mourning in streets as bodies become too numerous to bury

Deaths per 1MM People, Wuhan Virus

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/

1. Europe (Italy) - 178 +11 from previous update
2. Europe (Spain) - 146+18
3. Europe (Netherlands) - 45 +8
4. Europe (France) - 39+4
5. Europe (Belgium) - 38 +7
6. Europe (Switzerland) - 35 +4
7. Europe (Luxembourg) - 35 +5
8. Iran - 32 +1
9. Europe (UK) - 19 +4
10. Europe (Denmark) - 12 +1
...
15. United States - 8 +2

Europe followed WHO quarantine advice, Trump's America did not. Thank you President Trump!

[jusplay4fun]

And he criticizes ME for not thinking? Saxi posts things he does not read. As I said, look in the mirror.

Saxi said:

If the Trump Administration had such a bumbled response, why do we have 1/30th the number of per capita fatalities as Italy, 1/20 of Spain, 1/6th as France? Sources are useless if you don't have the ability to apply critical thinking; if you choose to treat your mind like an empty kettle into which anyone can pour anything. The relentlessly lying and biased Vox just told you the sky is green and - even though you can simply turn your head up to see for yourself - you've chosen to believe it.

Since JP4F simply accepts the veracity of anything he reads without critical thought, I'll pour this into his brain.

Trump’s policies will be vindicated in the wake of coronavirus

https://nypost.com/2020/03/21/trumps-po ... ronavirus/


I don't know what it says since I didn't read it myself. Those who are able to process original thoughts don't need op-eds from the lying press.

[jusplay4fun]

Look at the preponderance of the evidence; are all these sources quoting and disseminating only "lies"? Unlike Saxi, I do consider multiple sources that try to give a clearer picture of what is going on, not JUS those that support ONE point of view. You only cite the GOOD things Trump does. Does he ever make mistakes?

Does the press only LIE if they present information contrary to your world view?

Get real and look at the bigger picture. Your viewpoint is far too narrow and far too myopic.

And before you post a link, be sure to AT LEAST READ it. Posting a link and offering no validity or even understand its point is rather useless. That shows me a clear lack of thinking and honesty.

When all else fails, either 1) attack the source and 2) do not deny the evidence. This is called a "red herring".

If the Trump Administration had such a bumbled response, why do we have 1/30th the number of per capita fatalities as Italy, 1/20 of Spain, 1/6th as France? Sources are useless if you don't have the ability to apply critical thinking; if you choose to treat your mind like an empty kettle into which anyone can pour anything. The relentlessly lying and biased Vox just told you the sky is green and - even though you can simply turn your head up to see for yourself - you've chosen to believe it.

Since JP4F simply accepts the veracity of anything he reads without critical thought, I'll pour this into his brain.

Trump’s policies will be vindicated in the wake of coronavirus

https://nypost.com/2020/03/21/trumps-po ... ronavirus/

I don't know what it says since I didn't read it myself. Those who are able to process original thoughts don't need op-eds from the lying press.

But JP4F has posited that mere words on a screen are all it takes to convince him, not strength of position. So there they are. Words on a screen.

[jusplay4fun]

Wow: I read the opening few lines of Saxis post from the NY POST and guess what?

He proved my point for me:

It is true that the crisis, steadily building in China, should have triggered more rapid planning in America —

Be careful of posting before reading, Saxi; it may come back to bite you.

[saxitoxin]

Wow: I read the opening few lines of Saxis post from the NY POST and guess what?

He proved my point for me:

It is true that the crisis, steadily building in China, should have triggered more rapid planning in America —

Be careful of posting before reading, Saxi; it may come back to bite you.

That's called being even-handed. It goes on to state "In the current crisis, President Trump’s politics of national sovereignty have, in fact, found clear vindication ... Sure enough, typical politicians, some of them world leaders, reflexively criticized Trump’s prompt actions. Trump’s long-standing critique of the globalist consensus, and his desire for a strong, national manufacturing base, is also being proven correct." But sure, I can selectively quote, too. According to your anti-Trump rant article from Vox -

... Trump has ... effectively ... battled ... the coronavirus

Anyway, whatever, you've been proved irrelevant now.

On to other topics ...

I found this awesome tour of Navy hospital ship USNS Comfort. A single one of the U.S. Navy's hospital ships has twice as much patient capacity than all the other hospital ships of all the world's navies combined!

Trump, in his wisdom and mercy, has ordered all of them to sea to aid the American people. The EU - which has 10 times the number of dead as the U.S. - unfortunately only has a single small hospital ship with a mere 200 beds operated by Spain. This is what happens when you chronically underspend on defense for decades.



Each ship is the size of an aircraft carrier. They will succeed in their missions despite Rats and anti-Trumpers like JP4N desperately hoping they are attacked by Venezuelan and Cuban missile boats, explode, and sink just to embarrass the President.

[mrswdk]

So have we decided whether Coronavirus is real or just hype yet?

Also saxi, you appear to have forgotten to update the 'deaths per million' stat that you've been including in your signature until now.