KoolBak wrote:My son's best friend's dad caught the corona. Gave it to his son (who then had to skip our annual hunting trip). Son was sick for a few days.
Dad died after a week.
Doc said had he been vaxed, he'd still be alive.
At least he went the way he wanted. No saxi-vax for that fucker.
And no dad for the boy.....I'm helping him with the intestate probate. What a mess.
I'm 99% certain the father was over 60, obese or had a comorbidity. I have consistently said in this thread that people in this group should get the Frankenvax voluntarily.
In other words, if they had followed my advice (father vaxed, son unvaxed) everyone would have been fine.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
Yeah, of course for you, anyone three pounds or more over a 1975 chart weight is obese, so there's no way to win against Saxi and his movable goal posts.
I come in here for a laugh at an otherwise Amish rake fight level parody thread and KoolBak goes and gets me in the feels.
Well, they are still in slumber but the sore, recovering Mrs dimes informs me our daughter is going out with her surviving G-ma. So looks like it's going to be a stag lunch.
Latvia's parliament voted on Friday to ban lawmakers who refuse COVID-19 vaccine from voting on legislature and participating in discussions.
The restrictions on vaccine-rejecting lawmakers, which includes docking their pay, was supported by 62 of its 100 lawmakers, and will last from Monday until mid-2022.
This has exactly nothing to do with public health or science. The SARS-CoV-2 virus can't infect someone through an electronic voting switch.
If you don't understand how absolutely unhinged the Vax Cult has become leading the world into this bizarro reality, you're too far gone to help.
There has never been a point in history when you rapidly seize the civil rights of a minority of the population used to having civil rights that violence didn't result. This rapid, cascading spiral into a form of totalitarianism even Orwell didn't imagine is going to blow-up extremely soon. The collapse is accelerating. If you're not hoarding, you're not paying attention. Things are about to get very, very bad; very, very quickly.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
Oh yeah, the lawmakers effected by this were the votes against the government's efforts to extend its State of Emergency powers. Now that they've been denied the right to vote - Reichstaag fire style - the State of Emergency can be extended which will allow civilians to be tried by court martial.
All because there's a disease going around that has killed 0.2% of the Latvian population. During WWII 30% of the Latvian population died and, in the lead-up to that, MPs in Latvia never had their right to vote suspended. (The difference, of course, is that Pfizer, Inc. didn't see a 75% increase in its net profit during WWII.)
Yeah.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
At least Latvia set an end date on their mandate. The US mandate on federal contractors requires all employees to be fully vaccinated, even if they are 100% work from home. The mandates on federal employees, contractors, and the OSHA requirements for businesses over 100 employees do not contain any end dates or any indication of what metrics must be reached for the mandate to end.
Members of the Vax Cult queue to get their boosters as the last guy to get the booster is hauled off, twitching.
Vax Cult: "This is how all vaccines have always worked. It's perfectly normal."
At first I thought - this is so weird, why would they keep queuing at this point? Then again, there's never been a case in human history when cows have tried to escape the slaughterhouse queue. No cow has ever turned around and tried to go the other way.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
HUGE CIVIL RIGHTS NEWS!!!!! The 5th Circuit Appellate Courthouse is a historic landmark where 64 years ago school integration was ordered. Today, the court made history once again by issuing an injunction against Biden's unconstitutional vaccine mandate, which would have legalized government-ordered involuntary medical procedures against unwilling persons and would open the door to future orders such as government-ordered abortions, government-ordered castrations, government-ordered impregnations, government-ordered organ harvesting of the public, etc.
The court had previously issued a 72-hour stay while it considered arguments. The mandate will now be injuncted pending a full review by the court, which may take weeks. At that time the court may decide to issue a permanent injunction, forever nullifying the mandate.
The court went on to declare that Biden had usurped the sovereign police power of the states of the Union and that Biden was almost certain to lose his case once it was actually argued. There was, therefore, no need to wait and Biden is ...
INJUNCTED!!!
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
KoolBak wrote:Ah. My bad saxi....I apologize. Thot you were 100% against
My position is that if you are either: (a) over 60 years old, (b) obese, (c) have COPD, diabetes, HIV, etc., you should be encouraged - but not required - to get the vaccine.
Until a non-leaky vaccine becomes available, it should be prohibited from anyone else. The only people who gain from mass vaccination are the shareholders of Pfizer, Inc. and Moderna, Inc., and the virus itself which now has to mutate to survive in the face of a mass vaxed populace, leading to more virulent strains. We now are seeing more monthly deaths than we did when there was no vaccine at all.
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Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
I the Lord seek to show my mercy to those who show mercy to others.
Mercy is a beautiful gift that is given by the Lord your God. I the Lord bestow my mercy on those who seek and follow my ways. Many do not even seek or ask for my mercy. The world is drowning at this present time and needs my mercy more than ever before. Now is the time to seek my mercy and come back to the Lord your God. My mercy is for those who seek and ask for mercy.
Often times mercy goes unnoticed and missed by humans. Pray for mercy on the world and for yourselves during this grave time for the world.
I come seeking hearts to follow in my ways of truth. There shall always be truth. My way is the truth and the light of the world.
You are never alone for I am always with you. I seek you and your open heart to bring you closer to my heart than ever.
The two shall be one with me the Lord God the maker of the universe. My timing is in everything that is and that will be.
Come closer to your God and maker who created you to serve and praise Him who is worthy of praise from every part of creation.
I follow the steps of man and I grow sad by the ways man has turned against Him who made man. Hearts grow dim and dark. Their thoughts are of evil and malice towards men. There is very little praise of me anymore. Hardly no one thanks me for the birds, and the sea, and what fills the sea. Praise for creation has become a thing of the past. Man seeks to ruin and destroy my creation in all forms, even the smallest human life is considered expendable. I seek those who seek life. Seek life that brings forth eternal life. I am the God of Life.
KoolBak wrote:My son's best friend's dad caught the corona. Gave it to his son (who then had to skip our annual hunting trip). Son was sick for a few days.
Dad died after a week.
Doc said had he been vaxed, he'd still be alive.
At least he went the way he wanted. No saxi-vax for that fucker.
And no dad for the boy.....I'm helping him with the intestate probate. What a mess.
I'm 99% certain the father was over 60, obese or had a comorbidity. I have consistently said in this thread that people in this group should get the Frankenvax voluntarily.
In other words, if they had followed my advice (father vaxed, son unvaxed) everyone would have been fine.
Not everyone who dies of COVID is over 60 or obese or has a comorbidity.
2dimes wrote:Yeah, of course for you, anyone three pounds or more over a 1975 chart weight is obese, so there's no way to win against Saxi and his movable goal posts.
I come in here for a laugh at an otherwise Amish rake fight level parody thread and KoolBak goes and gets me in the feels.
KoolBak wrote:My son's best friend's dad caught the corona. Gave it to his son (who then had to skip our annual hunting trip). Son was sick for a few days.
Dad died after a week.
Doc said had he been vaxed, he'd still be alive.
At least he went the way he wanted. No saxi-vax for that fucker.
And no dad for the boy.....I'm helping him with the intestate probate. What a mess.
I'm 99% certain the father was over 60, obese or had a comorbidity. I have consistently said in this thread that people in this group should get the Frankenvax voluntarily.
In other words, if they had followed my advice (father vaxed, son unvaxed) everyone would have been fine.
Not everyone who dies of COVID is over 60 or obese or has a comorbidity.
Your hypothesis is disproven.
Death isn't the only negative outcome of Covid, especially with severe cases many people are reporting long term effects.
Dukasaur wrote: That was the night I broke into St. Mike's Cathedral and shat on the Archibishop's desk
KoolBak wrote:My son's best friend's dad caught the corona. Gave it to his son (who then had to skip our annual hunting trip). Son was sick for a few days.
Dad died after a week.
Doc said had he been vaxed, he'd still be alive.
At least he went the way he wanted. No saxi-vax for that fucker.
And no dad for the boy.....I'm helping him with the intestate probate. What a mess.
I'm 99% certain the father was over 60, obese or had a comorbidity. I have consistently said in this thread that people in this group should get the Frankenvax voluntarily.
In other words, if they had followed my advice (father vaxed, son unvaxed) everyone would have been fine.
Not everyone who dies of COVID is over 60 or obese or has a comorbidity.
Your hypothesis is disproven.
Death isn't the only negative outcome of Covid, especially with severe cases many people are reporting long term effects.
Indeed, according to this new study from Sweden, the S Protein comes to rest in the nucleus which interferes with DNA damage repair. So we may see people who had COVID-19 develop cancer at a prodigious rate in the next 2-5 years. Unfortunately, all of the vaccines use full strength spike proteins as well so - if this is true - we'll also see anyone who got the vaccine develop cancer at a prodigious rate in the next 2-5 years.
This suggests that the use of antigenic epitopes of the spike as a SARS–CoV–2 vaccine might be safer and more efficacious than the full–length spike. Taken together, we identified one of the potentially important mechanisms of SARS–CoV–2 suppression of the host adaptive immune machinery. Furthermore, our findings also imply a potential side effect of the full–length spike–based vaccine. This work will improve the understanding of COVID–19 pathogenesis and provide new strategies for designing more efficient and safer vaccines.
So, your best bet is to neither get the vaccine nor get COVID-19, but - between the two - vaccination is better of two bad options. Many health experts have danced around this by saying things like, at the rate of COVID transmission, eventually everyone will get it. In other words, the unspoken part is that you may as well get the vaccine and suffer a 100% increase in the possibility you'll get fatal cancer in the next 2-5 years than not get it and suffer a 300% increase. To come right out and say that your only hope to avoid serious long-term health impacts that won't manifest for a few years is to not get COVID-19 at all would cause a panic and essentially result in a civilization-ending economic collapse. And the end of civilization has greater health consequences for humanity than 25% of the species dying from cancer over the next couple years.
So, on a large, population-wide, scale it's probably true that you want as many people vaccinated as possible, even if the vaccine may be fairly dangerous itself. But for an individual that may not be true for two reasons (a) emerging science suggests 10% of the population may be naturally immune without exposure so - for these people - they are trading health for cancer in a few years, (b) some people are able to take enough precautions that they can last for a few more months until a safe vaccine becomes available (one that doesn't use the full length spike).
Bottom line, we should expect robust increase in human mortality within the next couple years as the vaccinated and infected start dying off from cancer susceptibility which will have the beneficial side effect of stabilizing global population levels to an environmentally sustainable level and may arrest climate change.
Mikolaj Raszek, a biochemist from the University of Alberta, explains the implications of the Swedish research.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
saxitoxin wrote:the S Protein comes to rest in the nucleus which interferes with DNA damage repair.
Conjecture (Saxi's favorite passtime):
saxitoxin wrote: So we may see people who had COVID-19 develop cancer at a prodigious rate in the next 2-5 years. Unfortunately, all of the vaccines use full strength spike proteins as well so - if this is true - we'll also see anyone who got the vaccine develop cancer at a prodigious rate in the next 2-5 years.
So, your best bet is to neither get the vaccine nor get COVID-19, but - between the two - vaccination is better of two bad options. Many health experts have danced around this by saying things like, at the rate of COVID transmission, eventually everyone will get it. In other words, the unspoken part is that you may as well get the vaccine and suffer a 100% increase in the possibility you'll get fatal cancer in the next 2-5 years than not get it and suffer a 300% increase. To come right out and say that your only hope to avoid serious long-term health impacts that won't manifest for a few years is to not get COVID-19 at all would cause a panic and essentially result in a civilization-ending economic collapse. And the end of civilization has greater health consequences for humanity than 25% of the species dying from cancer over the next couple years.
So, on a large, population-wide, scale it's probably true that you want as many people vaccinated as possible, even if the vaccine may be fairly dangerous itself. But for an individual that may not be true for two reasons (a) emerging science suggests 10% of the population may be naturally immune without exposure so - for these people - they are trading health for cancer in a few years, (b) some people are able to take enough precautions that they can last for a few more months until a safe vaccine becomes available (one that doesn't use the full length spike).
Bottom line, we should expect robust increase in human mortality within the next couple years as the vaccinated and infected start dying off from cancer susceptibility which will have the beneficial side effect of stabilizing global population levels to an environmentally sustainable level and may arrest climate change.
Dukasaur wrote: That was the night I broke into St. Mike's Cathedral and shat on the Archibishop's desk
saxitoxin wrote:the S Protein comes to rest in the nucleus which interferes with DNA damage repair.
How one would not be terrified of this fact after just injecting oneself with a compound that causes the body to go into overdrive producing unlimited quantities of the spike protein, is beyond me. I guess it's a coping mechanism. But, in any case, more terror in a direct quote from the paper:
In contrast, our data provide valuable details on the involvement of spike protein subunits in DNA damage repair, indicating that full–length spike–based vaccines may inhibit the recombination of V(D)J in B cells, which is also consistent with a recent study that a full–length spike–based vaccine induced lower antibody titers compared to the RBD–based vaccine [28]. This suggests that the use of antigenic epitopes of the spike as a SARS–CoV–2 vaccine might be safer and more efficacious than the full–length spike. Taken together, we identified one of the potentially important mechanisms of SARS–CoV–2 suppression of the host adaptive immune machinery. Furthermore, our findings also imply a potential side effect of the Viruses 2021, 13, 2056 9 of 10 full–length spike–based vaccine. This work will improve the understanding of COVID–19 pathogenesis and provide new strategies for designing safer vaccines.
It is scary stuff. When presented with scary stuff you can accept it and try to find a way to move forward, or you can ---
For many people it's now too late and that's too bad. Once the spike is inside you, you can't take it back out. But we got to that point because the healthcare industry was only willing to share the good news, and not the potential bad news that we've only now learned. Being frank with people is always the best policy.
And, by the way, if this is true it means that I was also wrong. I've been pushing Novavax but even Novavax uses a full-length spike strand. Of course, it's still probably safer than Pfizer, Moderna, or J&J as it's a measured 10mcg dose of spike and doesn't cause the body itself to manufacture it in unlimited quantities. But it's still not ideal.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
I found the article saxi cited but did not provides its URL:
4. Discussion Our findings provide evidence of the spike protein hijacking the DNA damage repair machinery and adaptive immune machinery in vitro. We propose a potential mechanism by which spike proteins may impair adaptive immunity by inhibiting DNA damage repair. Although no evidence has been published that SARS–CoV–2 can infect thymocytes or bone marrow lymphoid cells, our in vitro V(D)J reporter assay shows that the spike protein intensely impeded V(D)J recombination. Consistent with our results, clinical observations also show that the risk of severe illness or death with COVID–19 increases with age, especially older adults who are at the highest risk [22]. This may be because SARS–CoV–2 spike proteins can weaken the DNA repair system of older people and consequently impede V(D)J recombination and adaptive immunity. In contrast, our data provide valuable details on the involvement of spike protein subunits in DNA damage repair, indicating that full–length spike–based vaccines may inhibit the recombination of V(D)J in B cells, which is also consistent with a recent study that a full–length spike–based vaccine induced lower antibody titers compared to the RBD–based vaccine [28]. This suggests that the use of antigenic epitopes of the spike as a SARS–CoV–2 vaccine might be safer and more efficacious than the full–length spike. Taken together, we identified one of the potentially important mechanisms of SARS–CoV–2 suppression of the host adaptive immune machinery. Furthermore, our findings also imply a potential side effect of the full–length spike–based vaccine. This work will improve the understanding of COVID–19 pathogenesis and provide new strategies for designing more efficient and safer vaccines.
The SKY IS NOT FALLING..!! What a surprise. saxi wanted you to think he had damaging and damning evidence, BUT AGAIN, the Sky is NOT Falling. saxi tries another misleading quote and FAILS Again. SURPRISED..!
What a surprise. saxi wanted you to think he had damaging and damning evidence, BUT AGAIN, the Sky is NOT Falling. saxi tries another misleading quote and FAILS Again. SURPRISED..!
