Florida Orders National Guard to Stand Down

[bigtoughralf]

As Supreme Leader he does presumably have the power to override/prevent lockdowns if he wanted to though? He may not have personally made the decision but he's still the one in charge.

[saxitoxin]

A big part of the message is a simple "f*ck Trudeau!" and assigning him blame for everything that has gone wrong with the world. Now, I'm not a fan of Trudeau, never have been, never will be, but fair is fair. Most of the stuff being laid at his door is not his fault. With regards to the lockdowns, those very specifically are not his doing and yet he is taking all the heat for them. Since the beginning, Trudeau has scrupulously respected the power of the provinces to make their own policy in that regard, and has not brought the heavy hand of the federal government into it. All the provinces have had different lockdown rules and the federal government has not tried to influence them, even where it disagreed. Yet the protesters are blaming him for every lockdown, everywhere, and though I do not like the man, my sense of fair play is on his side.

Well the premiers don't control the vax mandate for international travel. Only Trudeau can repeal that.

[2dimes]

What's annoying is all the boneheads talking about making him step down and "We're going to vote him out!" Then come election time... Surprise! More Trudeau.

[Dukasaur]

A big part of the message is a simple "f*ck Trudeau!" and assigning him blame for everything that has gone wrong with the world. Now, I'm not a fan of Trudeau, never have been, never will be, but fair is fair. Most of the stuff being laid at his door is not his fault. With regards to the lockdowns, those very specifically are not his doing and yet he is taking all the heat for them. Since the beginning, Trudeau has scrupulously respected the power of the provinces to make their own policy in that regard, and has not brought the heavy hand of the federal government into it. All the provinces have had different lockdown rules and the federal government has not tried to influence them, even where it disagreed. Yet the protesters are blaming him for every lockdown, everywhere, and though I do not like the man, my sense of fair play is on his side.

Well the premiers don't control the vax mandate for international travel. Only Trudeau can repeal that.

That's true. But while that might have been the flashpoint for these protests, it's not their entire, or even their main, theme.

They are protesting all public health measures -- not just vaccine mandates but the lockdowns, the masking rules, everything. Only a small percentage of those are federal in nature.

[mookiemcgee]

[jusplay4fun]

Why is there a Trump flag in the photo?

[jonesthecurl]

Agent provocateur.

[jusplay4fun]

Agent provocateur.

Perhaps, Jonesy.

Or perhaps some of the protestors (at least one who brought the Trump flag) has a similar view of the world as the Canadian truckers who are protesting?

[Dukasaur]

Why is there a Trump flag in the photo?

Right-wing nut jobs all over the world worship Drumph, and want to kiss his decrepit buttocks. No different in Canada than in Hungary.

[saxitoxin]

Brian Peckford, the last living signer of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, just appeared at a press conference with the Trucker Convoy Leader to denounce Trudeau's plan to declare martial law and use Army tanks to crush the protesters who are peacefully criticizing him, and to jail all his opponents.

"We hope the soldiers and police will follow their conscience and remember 'I was just following orders' has always been an excuse used by those who ignore their moral intuition. We have faith in you to do the right thing. Do not let this become a dark moment in Canada's history. We love all Canadians. Some of you might oppose our grievances, however, democratic society will always have non-trivial disagreements."



Tanks being used for mass executions, Chile 1973 -

[saxitoxin]

The Democratic Opposition just gave Trudeau a chance to deescalate the situation by taking a vote on abolishing Canada's almost-last-in-the-world vax mandates and Trudeau ordered his party to give no quarter and show no mercy. The measure was defeated in the Commons 185-151 with a coalition of the Democratic Opposition consisting of Conservatives, New Democrats, and Bloc Quebecois voting in favor.

There is now no turning back from Trudeau's Ceaușescu destiny.

[saxitoxin]

Under his martial law powers, Trudeau just announced he will jail any tow truck driver that refuses to tow a vehicle. He noted that the State of Michigan provided Canada emergency aid to clear vehicles from the Windsor Bridge and he could also rely on American support if jailing people who disobey his work commands fail, though did not clarify if that meant the American armed forces would be deployed in Canada to prop up his government if things head south or if there's a possibility of USAF drone strikes against protesters.

The thing I'm most struck by is that usually, when a dictator seizes power, he's flanked by a cabal of strong, steel jawed alpha men. Trudeau is surrounded by a group of ugly little trolls and hobgoblins with weak chins like Dave Lametti.

UPDATE: Leah West, former national security counsel at the Canadian Department of Justice, says that there is no basis in Canadian law for some of the decrees Trudeau has issued. Here she says that Trudeau's order to seize money from bank accounts of his political opponents without a trial or even a warrant is a violation of Section 8 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms ---

https://twitter.com/leahwest_nsl/status ... 8960654342

"Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure."

[saxitoxin]

High officials of the Trudeau regime, according to media, just gave a briefing to select media to outline the new martial law decrees. Reporters were prohibited from identifying any of the high representatives of Trudeau conducting the briefing, due to concerns they might be targeted by resistance fighters, under penalty of summary imprisonment. Trudeau has decreed the following:

(1) Tow truck drives and mechanics and other skilled trades can be conscripted by the state into forced labor if necessary to defend state security and national unity,
(2) Driving or walking to a protest against the government is prohibited,
(3) Banks are required to seize the assets of anyone if they receive snitch info that that person participated in a protest against the government,
(4) All provincial and local police, in addition to the RCMP, have authority to enforce the martial law provisions
(5) Children may not be present within 100 meters of a protest against the government and police may seize and rehouse any children from their parents if this provision is violated
(6) Raising or soliciting funds to assist in any legal case or court challenge against the Emergencies Act is itself a violation of the Emergencies Act and all such funds are to be summarily seized

(compiled from David Reely and other news reports)

- Meanwhile, as seen in this video, civil rights advocates are protesting outside the Canadian embassy at the UN in New York and calling for United Nations intervention to help the people of Canada remove the dictator and restore democracy - https://twitter.com/ViralNewsNYC/status ... _york_city

- According to a new survey only 33% of Americans oppose the Truck protests, while 60% support them: https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public ... oy_protest

[jusplay4fun]

Why is there a Trump flag in the photo?

Right-wing nut jobs all over the world worship Drumph, and want to kiss his decrepit buttocks. No different in Canada than in Hungary.

The flag was put there by a hungry Hungarian? Was there a Pole (from PO-Land) to support the flag, too? Was it inspected by one or two Czechs (Checks)? Will they be fed turkey from Turkey? Or chili from Chile? with spices from the Spice Island and will be meal be served on china made in

................China...?? Or on a paper or plastic disposable plate? Discriminating palates want to know about their plates. Bastante para hoy.

[ConfederateSS]

Why is there a Trump flag in the photo?

Right-wing nut jobs all over the world worship Drumph, and want to kiss his decrepit buttocks. No different in Canada than in Hungary.

The flag was put there by a hungry Hungarian? Was there a Pole (from PO-Land) to support the flag, too? Was it inspected by one or two Czechs (Checks)? Will they be fed turkey from Turkey? Or chili from Chile? with spices from the Spice Island and will be meal be served on china made in

................China...?? Or on a paper or plastic disposable plate? Discriminating palates want to know about their plates. Bastante para hoy.

----------------NO!!!....USE DIXIE PLATES and CUPS!!! ...
----------------The real question is... Someone is missing from the Trucker's side...
----------------You don't see them represented , with people standing with Trudeau either,when he speaks...The last ones to stick it to the government of Canada or Canadian police,etc...When they held their ground and outlasted the country club who wanted to take burial land for 9 more holes on a golf course in OKA , Quebec in 1990 A.D...78 days...to WIN their protest...They had rifles... ...THE MOHAWKS ,ONE OF THE AMERICAN INDIAN CONFEDERACY...Can the Truckers last 78 days???.... Trudeau might negotiate with The Truckers if they had Native American supporters/protesters... Trudeau likes to wear Indian Chieftain Head feathers,when he is not covered in black shoe polish ... Trudeau must be from Sen. Elizabeth Warren's tribe... The tribe of make believe...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ...
--------As for The Ambassador Bridge...It is privately owned...I know there is the Blue Water Bridge...But The Owner of The Ambassador Bridge could shut the bridge down...If he wanted to...I would if I were him, Because of The New Gordie Howe bridge being built, I don't know if he has anything to do with the new bridge though...Or if Canada or The USA is building it...
------------In Southwest, Detroit, you used to be able to go all the way through Lafayette Street to Downtown, Detroit...But in The Mid. 90's The Bridge took over the area...Blocked off Lafayette Street with a Huge Wall, that surrounds the area where trucks enter the USA...The State,county redid I-75, the service drive, around the bridge...Called it the Gateway project in the 2000's...

[mookiemcgee]

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-ne ... -for-hours

“I don’t want to take away anyone’s right to protest, but I wanted them to hear that they’re having a negative impact on the citizens of Ottawa,” said Devine, who said about two-thirds of drivers in the convoy agreed to talk.

“Most of the people I spoke to were surprised at the resistance. I think the convoy is under the false impression that they have unwavering popular support.”

[saxitoxin]

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/battle-of-billings-bridge-attracts-hundreds-of-volunteers-traps-convoy-for-hours

“I don’t want to take away anyone’s right to protest, but I wanted them to hear that they’re having a negative impact on the citizens of Ottawa,” said Devine, who said about two-thirds of drivers in the convoy agreed to talk.

“Most of the people I spoke to were surprised at the resistance. I think the convoy is under the false impression that they have unwavering popular support.”

By definition, protest movements never have unwavering popular support. If you had unwavering popular support you wouldn't need to protest in the first place.

Protests by small majorities and large minorities, or by even a single person, are protected by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (a) freedom of conscience and religion; (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; (c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and, (d) freedom of association.

Canadian courts have given an absolute interpretation of "peaceful assembly" beyond what the 1st Amendment gives Americans meaning that - even if the assembly is disruptive but peaceful - it's protected. During Occupy Wall Street protesters camped in a park in Toronto for a month without proper permits and the courts intervened to stop their eviction since it was for purposes of political expression and there was no evidence of riot or violence actually occurring. In this case and under nearly identical circumstances (except a street rather than a park), Trudeau has declared a State of Siege, instituted rule by decree, ordered the forced labor of tow truck drivers and mechanics under threat of arrest, ordered the seizure of bank accounts without warrant, dispatched RCMP for midnight round-ups of dissidents, and banned protests against himself.

Ironically, this is exactly the weird fantasy the anti-Trumpists spent four years screaming Trump was on the verge of doing. But, in the world of reality, it never happened. Now their hero, Trudeau, is doing the same thing they spent years breathlessly hyperventilating Trump was going to do.

[saxitoxin]

If the courts don't provide immediate relief to Trudeau's subversion of democracy and democratic norms, then any method of resistance to Trudeau would become justified. Unfortunately, this is what he wants as his ultimate goal is to order out the Army to wipe-out opposition to him, just like dad did in '73. He only won with 32% of the vote in an election in which only 62% voted and understands his only way forward is to violently eliminate his political opponents.

[jusplay4fun]

Please read the bottom line of saxi's post; that is all you need to know.

[Dukasaur]

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/battle-of-billings-bridge-attracts-hundreds-of-volunteers-traps-convoy-for-hours

“I don’t want to take away anyone’s right to protest, but I wanted them to hear that they’re having a negative impact on the citizens of Ottawa,” said Devine, who said about two-thirds of drivers in the convoy agreed to talk.

“Most of the people I spoke to were surprised at the resistance. I think the convoy is under the false impression that they have unwavering popular support.”

It’s a very polarizing issue.

A poll I read last week said 34% support the truckers, 40% hate them, and that leaves only about 25% neutral.

With the usual effects of confirmation bias, it’s easy for members of the 34% or the 40% to imagine themselves to be an overwhelming majority.

[mookiemcgee]

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/battle-of-billings-bridge-attracts-hundreds-of-volunteers-traps-convoy-for-hours

“I don’t want to take away anyone’s right to protest, but I wanted them to hear that they’re having a negative impact on the citizens of Ottawa,” said Devine, who said about two-thirds of drivers in the convoy agreed to talk.

“Most of the people I spoke to were surprised at the resistance. I think the convoy is under the false impression that they have unwavering popular support.”

It’s a very polarizing issue.

A poll I read last week said 34% support the truckers, 40% hate them, and that leaves only about 25% neutral.

With the usual effects of confirmation bias, it’s easy for members of the 34% or the 40% to imagine themselves to be an overwhelming majority.

Makes sense to me, people also live in their sphere/bubbles more than ever before given the interwebs and social media have become masters of positive feed back loops for telling you what you want to hear/already believe (applied to people on both sides of most issues)

[ConfederateSS]

----------For someone who holds hands and kneels with BLM as American cites burned to the ground...Yet, Spits in the face of Truckers who keep North America supplied... Trudeau likes to play dress up...He should try dressing up as a World leader... Canadians suffering over the past 2 years is 10 times worse than The USA...Not surprising of Trudeau's actions, now with Total Emergency ,martial law like powers... Trudeau's Hero is Fidel Castro...Unlike Fidel...The Canadian Military and Police have no wish to crack down on the Truckers...
-----------Trudeau really needs to sit down, himself ,with the truckers, show he can be a big boy , grown up...Instead of a spoiled elite child...He currently is displaying... Trudeau is apparently the only World Leader who listens to Biden...When Biden told him to bust up the border blockade...During the Vietnam War Americans fled to Canada... Canadians might want to flee to the USA...Get away from Castro Trudeau Jr... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...