Newbie Mafia (Neighbours Themed) MAFIA WIN!

[Minister Masket]

Well so far it's just me and you posting. Im just trying to make an interesting argument to help fill in the time!

[ga7]

This is a C9 game and therefore will have only one of these 4 possible setups, which will be chosen at random

1)2 mafia, 5 townies
2)2 mafia, 1 Doc, 4 townies
3)2 mafia, 1 Cop, 4 townies
4)2 mafia, 1 Doc, 1 Cop, 3 Townies

we need to find out which setup it is

Derfderf was right there, we're in desperate need of a cop with so little people left

[danodukebb]

well, we need to think quick...theres only 3 townies left now...
if we lynch one of us tonight then were fucked and game over....

anyone have any leads at all?

i think MM is looking pretty scummy to me with that whole bs accusation...

[Minister Masket]

I never accused you dano, I was meerly wasting time until others joined.
ATM, I do not suspect you, nor ga7.
As I said, I'm waiting for the others to arrive.

[ga7]

I don't have strong enough suspicions for a vote right now. Let's not hurry with the voting and wait for everyone to post in any case...

[derfderf34]

i tihnk it is the first setup considering that only vanillas have died so far

[derfderf34]

o ya ill be gone all weekend i think ill be back before the deadline


if im not vote kwanton be cause he still looks suspiciuos in my eyes

[dustn64]

kwanton did kind of lead both of our lynchs. And if you are the cop now would be a good time to roleclam

[ga7]

SFOS Derfderf
You're leaving and voting, when we're at LyLo, just like that?
Either you're scum and wanting to be sure to lynch a townie before going, either you're town and crazy for putting town in such a risk!

[ga7]

kwanton did kind of lead both of our lynchs. And if you are the cop now would be a good time to roleclam

dustn no offense but you're dead and skimming cause we are only at day 2

I'll read back on Kwanton now...

[nagerous]

dustn you're dead..

[dustn64]

that was a *voice from the dead*

[nagerous]

read the rules... "oh shit" posts are allowed but nothing game related once you are dead.

[dustn64]

alright, I would edit but I don't want to break two rules

[ga7]

Ok the way I see it, Kwanton did put up the arguments for the firth4eva lynch. The problem there is that Firth defense didn't convince me either, he simply asked us to take his word that he wasn't doing anything scummy. Then the hammer:

unvote vote firth
if you dont want anyone to drop the hammer just unvote

ok lets see if we got scum

In the context now Derf strikes me as more scummy for Kwanton because of this move... Retrospectively the fact he wanted to know if there was power roles during the night seems a little suspicious too, but I'm probably reading too much into it.
I'll wait a bit to vote in any case, it's a tough call

[kwanton]

Hrm. Well dustn there has only been one lynch and you are dead so....

And in my defense everyone go back and reread what firth did. Honestly with 2 scum tells early in day 1 I don't think he really needed my help to get lynched. Someone would have noticed what he did sooner or later and brought it to the towns attention even if I didn't.

I also agree with dano. Minister saying he was "aggressive" is totally unfounded. Ok going after me is understandable and I admit I made a mistake with firth, but there was absolutely no reason to accuse dano.

FOS minister

[Minister Masket]

Listen here Kwanton, you obviously missed this part:

I never accused you dano, I was meerly wasting time until others joined.
ATM, I do not suspect you, nor ga7.
As I said, I'm waiting for the others to arrive.

Actually t'was a cunnning stratagy of mine to see how people react when accused. To think that you lot completely over-reacted has provided me with essential clues.... But I'll have to dig deeper...

[danodukebb]

Listen here Kwanton, you obviously missed this part:

I never accused you dano, I was meerly wasting time until others joined.
ATM, I do not suspect you, nor ga7.
As I said, I'm waiting for the others to arrive.

Actually t'was a cunnning stratagy of mine to see how people react when accused. To think that you lot completely over-reacted has provided me with essential clues.... But I'll have to dig deeper...

you want to know how people react when accused...the same way everyone does...defensive...anyone accused wants to cover their ass whether their scum or not...the fact that you have to accuse someone to learn their reaction is pretty stupid if you ask me..your not getting this team anywhere..we need to find out whos scum and quickly

[kwanton]

Minister I have a friendly piece of advice for you. There was a flaw in your "cunning" little plan. In this kind of situation you shouldn't resort to "tricking" people for evidence as you did. You could end up tricking town as easily as scum. Dano said it: people react defensive when accused. I defended dano because like I said your "accusations" were completely unfounded. I'm begining to think that you only said you weren't accusing dano because no one backed you up.

[kwanton]

O and here is something I found very, very interesting:

I can't decide who's more untrustworthy.
Kwanton seems to enjoy setting traps for his fellow players...OR
danodukebb who has an aggresive attitude...
Quite frankly, you all scare me. I'm gonna wait until more join me before unleashing my judgement.

Listen here Kwanton, you obviously missed this part:

I never accused you dano, I was meerly wasting time until others joined.
ATM, I do not suspect you, nor ga7.
As I said, I'm waiting for the others to arrive.

Actually t'was a cunnning stratagy of mine to see how people react when accused. To think that you lot completely over-reacted has provided me with essential clues.... But I'll have to dig deeper...

Accusing me of laying traps and then you lay a trap for others?


Very interesting.

[ga7]

Hmm quite a contradiction... Well, Minister's next post should be interesting...
I'm still more suspicious of Derf right now but well, he's not here so that doesnt help

[Minister Masket]

Touche, Mr Kwanton.
But there is as diffference between a "trap" and a "strategy".
Traps you leave for others to make the mistake.
Strategies usually result in you making the mistake, as I have done here.
I apologize for my eccentric behavoiur and now I suggest we all pull together before we run out of time.
OK?

[kwanton]

Hrm. Well your defense doesn't completely have me convinced minister. But I'll let it slide for now. We should be very careful about our votes now. Derf made the mistake of voting before he left. That doesn't necceasarily make him scummy, it just means he didn't think things through. But I see how it would be a viable scum tactic. With 5 people left going away and leaving a vote for someone could force everyone else to vote his way. That's if he doesn't come back in time for the deadline though. Does anyone know if he'll be back in time for night?

[ga7]

There's still a bit less than 2 days, he said he was going for the weekend so he might be back.
There's several possibilities on his vote, but if he was scum he couldn't have done it better...

[nagerous]

I'll think about extending the deadline by another 24 hours in order to allow time for derfderf to return.