Global Warming [Comment by mortals only, please]

[HitRed]

My anger shows in the weather. I let my anger be known in ways humans have called other things such as climate change. They do this to push me off again and choose to ignore my warnings.

I warn, but many do not listen or take heed of my warning. The weather is a good example of my warning. Many things are happening in the weather that many ignore and call it something else to suit them.

[mookiemcgee]

Maybe the weather is God trying to warn us that we are polluting and overpopulating the earth and we need to stop or the warning will get louder.

Why does it have to be a warning 'not to vote democrat' or to 'stop abortions'?

[jusplay4fun]

----------From the 19th century...to The 21 Century....The Earth went up 1% in degrees....WOW .....Keep scaring everyone science. Freaks!!!!


------------Science Freaks have been crying wolf since the early days of Hippydum...The 1970sA.D....
------------ In 1971 A.D...The freaks said the New Ice Age would be here in 50+years....Where is it..?
------------ In 1989 A.D...The U.N. freaks warned that rising seas , Global Warming would wash away nations by the year 2000 A.D...Has Japan gone under water like Atlantis??
------------ In 2004 A.D. Pentagon freaks warned... President Bush that climate change is a bigger threat than terrorism, and Britian would feel like Siberia....By 2020 A.D....I guess The British are freezing today... ...
------------ What will the freak scientists think next???....
------------ Europe went Green , dependant on Russia...How well is that working???...
------------ America is trying to go Green....As China is standing strong...On the way to ruling the world...
------------ The top issue polled by regular Americans.... Climate change....1%....You science freaks should just give up trying to scare people.....No one is buying, out side of Far Left liberal hippie freaks...THANK GOD....YES, GOD...Mookie, HE keeps us from being blinded by Science Freaks,. Crying wolf ever time they speak... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

Most of the Science of Global Warming has been explained. Let me focus on one point here, that has already been explained in November 2021:

ConfedSS says:

------------ In 1971 A.D...The freaks said the New Ice Age would be here in 50+years....Where is it..?

My answer from Nov. 2021: (Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:35 am)

One is that I have read that the large of amount of air pollution that was occurring in the 1970 included sulfates and particulate matter. These forms of pollution blocked sunlight and led to less sunlight and thus lower temperatures. THAT led to predictions of Global Cooling. Many climate deniers use that argument as "proof" that our current state of knowledge is "wrong" and that Science is Wrong or inaccurate. No, as we learn more, we change our conclusions based on more and BETTER data. Better data usually leads to better conclusions, better scientific models, and a better understanding of our world.

And I get into an long explanation about temperatures (in the same post), that deniers have largely ignored.

ConfedSS said, earlier today:

I guess The British are freezing today... ...

No, have you paid attention to the NEWS? HEAT wave and HIGHEST temperatures EVER in parts of the UK. ConfedSS, you are TOTALLY wrong on this matter. Yes, it is HOT in the Summer; no doubt. BUT the HIGHEST temperatures EVER should get your attention, unless you are a climate change (AND global warming) denier.

[jusplay4fun]

----------From the 19th century...to The 21 Century....The Earth went up 1% in degrees....WOW .....

Do you mean 1%, 1 degree F or 1 degree C? It matters, you know, ConfedSS. GYST.

Are the Effects of Global Warming Really that Bad?

Short answer: Yes. Even a seemingly slight average temperature rise is enough to cause a dramatic transformation of our planet.

Five and a half degrees Fahrenheit. It may not sound like much—perhaps the difference between wearing a sweater and not wearing one on an early-spring day. But for the world in which we live—which climate experts project will be at least 5.7 degrees Fahrenheit warmer by 2100, relative to pre-industrial levels (1850–1900), should global emissions continue on their current path—this small rise will have grave consequences. These impacts are already becoming apparent for every ecosystem and living thing, including us.!!!! (Note that I added !!!! so ConfedSS can better grasp my points here.)

Human influences are the number one cause of global warming, especially the carbon pollution we cause by burning fossil fuels and the pollution capture we prevent by destroying forests. The carbon dioxide, methane, soot, and other pollutants we release into the atmosphere act like a blanket, trapping the sun's heat and causing the planet to warm. Evidence shows that the 2010s were hotter than any other decade on record—and every decade since the 1960s has averaged hotter than the previous one. This warming is altering the earth's climate system, including its land, atmosphere, oceans, and ice, in far-reaching ways.

More frequent and severe weather
Higher temperatures are worsening many types of disasters, including storms, heat waves, floods, and droughts. A warmer climate creates an atmosphere that can collect, retain, and unleash more water, changing weather patterns in such a way that wet areas become wetter and dry areas drier.

According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, in 2021, there were 20 weather and climate disaster events in the United States—including severe storms, floods, drought, and wildfires—that individually caused at least $1 billion in losses. “Disasters in 2021 had a staggering total price tag of $145 billion—and that’s an underestimate because it excludes health damages,” says Vijay Limaye, senior scientist at NRDC. “These climate and weather disasters endanger people across the country throughout the entire year. In fact, more than 4 in 10 Americans live in a county that was struck by climate-related disasters in 2021.”

The increasing number of droughts, intense storms, and floods we're seeing as our warming atmosphere holds—and then dumps—more moisture poses risks to public health and safety too. Prolonged dry spells mean more than just scorched lawns. Drought conditions jeopardize access to clean drinking water, fuel out-of-control wildfires, and result in dust storms, extreme heat events, and flash flooding in the States. Elsewhere around the world, lack of water is a leading cause of death and serious disease and is contributing to crop failure. At the opposite end of the spectrum, heavier rains cause streams, rivers, and lakes to overflow, which damages life and property, contaminates drinking water, creates hazardous-material spills, and promotes mold infestation and unhealthy air. A warmer, wetter world is also a boon for foodborne and waterborne illnesses and disease-carrying insects, such as mosquitoes, fleas, and ticks.

My answer from Nov. 2021: (Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:35 am)

One is that I have read that the large of amount of air pollution that was occurring in the 1970 included sulfates and particulate matter. These forms of pollution blocked sunlight and led to less sunlight and thus lower temperatures. THAT led to predictions of Global Cooling. Many climate deniers use that argument as "proof" that our current state of knowledge is "wrong" and that Science is Wrong or inaccurate. No, as we learn more, we change our conclusions based on more and BETTER data. Better data usually leads to better conclusions, better scientific models, and a better understanding of our world.

https://www.nrdc.org/stories/are-effects-global-warming-really-bad#:~:text=Higher%20temperatures%20are%20worsening%20many,wetter%20and%20dry%20areas%20drier.

And ConfedSS has NO answer to the RECORD high temps in the UK and Western Europe. It is NOT JUST HOT, but RECORD heat, in 2019 and now 2022.

NOAA study: Most of the years in next decade very likely to rank as Top 10 warmest years

Using data from tens of thousands of stations worldwide, NOAA scientists have developed a method to estimate how the average global temperature may rank year-to-year in subsequent years. The method indicates a strong probability that future years will continue to be among the hottest on record.

The method, described in a paper co-authored by scientists at NCEI, the North Carolina Institute for Climate Studies (NCICS), and California State University, Long Beach, is published by the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society. The title of the article poses the question, “Should we expect each year in the next decade (2019–2028) to be ranked among the top 10 warmest years globally?”

“In other words,” the authors wrote, “given historical observations (including the most recent ones), can we assume that near-record annual rankings are already ‘baked into the cake’ for the next several years?”

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/projected-ranks

[fat bastard]

Meanwhile Greta's family got rich and she doesn't need to cry in public any more.

I live next to local National Weather Station as such the area temperature is showed on tv or on your phone. So i can drive my BMW in to the parking lot any time of day and the official temperature is ALWAYS 4 to 5 degrees higher than my BMW or my ford F150. Guess winter temperature will be lower than BMW? I am lucky it is only few miles from the house.

Try this test at your local NWS maybe we can compare notes?

Starting at micro level would be interesting for all of us.

[jusplay4fun]

Meanwhile Greta's family got rich and she doesn't need to cry in public any more.

just saying

Welcome Back, fat bastard.

and this proves what?

You did not deny any of the evidence presented, so you must agree with the preponderance of the evidence. Just saying.

[fat bastard]

I have evidence too.... my car temperature is ALWAYS lower than NWS parking lot while i am at the site.

I have confirmation bias but folks that study weather don't have any skin the game ?

[jusplay4fun]

I have evidence too.... my car temperature is ALWAYS lower than NWS parking lot while i am at the site.

You call that evidence? Rather pathetic evidence from a scientific perspective, and I am a scientist.

I have confirmation bias but folks that study weather don't have any skin the game ?

We all do have confirmation bias; can you ignore or take that into account to draw reasonably accurate conclusions? I see NO valid conclusions by you on this matter at all.

"skin the game"..?? of course they do; CLIMATE and weather are what Climate Scientists STUDY. I am not a Climate Scientist, but I do know good Science and good scientific evidence and data. What do you have? How your skin feels when you get into your car? REALLY? That is your best evidence? This is the only thing you now cite? PATHETIC

[jimboston]

Maybe the weather is God trying to warn us that we are polluting and overpopulating the earth and we need to stop or the warning will get louder.

Why does it have to be a warning 'not to vote democrat' or to 'stop abortions'?

… wow surprise, no response!

If you believe in a fake man in the sky you are automatically authorized to interpret his “signs” anyway you want.
You can also choose to believe someone else’s interpretation if that’s ‘easier’ for you.

Once you settle on an interpretation it’s then important to deny any other interpretation, and aggressively call anyone proposing alternative interpretations as “sinners” or “infidels”.

[bigtoughralf]

America is trying to go Green....As China is standing strong...On the way to ruling the world..

China gets 40% of its energy from renewable sources compared to the USA's 12%, and China's per capita emissions are less than half of the USA's.

If China is beating the US (it is) then that's not because the US is greener than China (it isn't).

[jusplay4fun]

America is trying to go Green....As China is standing strong...On the way to ruling the world..

China gets 40% of its energy from renewable sources compared to the USA's 12%, and China's per capita emissions are less than half of the USA's.

If China is beating the US (it is) then that's not because the US is greener than China (it isn't).

I think you are INCORRECT; that figure is not even 30%.

And of course ralph provides NO verification or sources of his false information.

China says a third of electricity will come from renewables by 2025
Reuters

SHANGHAI, June 1 (Reuters) - China will aim to ensure that its grids source about 33% of power from renewable sources by 2025, up from 28.8% in 2020, the state planning agency said on Wednesday in a new "five-year plan" for the renewable sector.

China's total renewable energy consumption is set to reach about 1 billion tonnes of standard coal equivalent (TCE) by 2025, as the country bids to raise the share of non-fossil fuels in total energy use to 20%, the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) said.

https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/china-says-third-electricity-will-come-renewables-by-2025-2022-06-01/

In 2020, 84.33% of Chinese primary energy consumption relied on fossil fuels, and 56.56% of it relied on coal, down from 70% in 2011. These energy production processes generated approximately 9.9 billion tonnes of CO2, up from 8.1 billion tonnes in 2010 and accounting for 30.9% of global emissions.[75][76]

In 2021, China produced 7.727% of its energy from hydroelectric, 2.32% from nuclear, and 7.141% from other renewable energy sources, from 2.25%, 8.468%, 5.77%, relatively, in 2020.[77]

Chinese energy experts estimate that by 2050 the share of electricity from coal will decline to 30%–50%, and that the remaining 50%–70% will come from a combination of oil, natural gas, and renewable energy sources, including hydropower, nuclear power, biomass, solar energy, wind energy, and other renewable energy sources.[78]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_China#:~:text=Energy%20production%20and%20consumption,-In%202020%2C%2084.33&text=In%202021%2C%20China%20produced%207.727,%25%2C%20relatively%2C%20in%202020.

China's renewable energy output rose by 8.4pc in 2020 from 2019, according to national energy administration (NEA) data. Continued growth in renewable output this year could weigh on demand for thermal coal, although stronger electricity demand will likely sustain coal as China's leading generation fuel.

China produced 2,214.8TWh of renewable electricity in 2020, according to the NEA. The country consumed 7,511 TWh of power in 2020, which meant that slightly less than 30pc was from renewable output, derived from hydropower, wind, solar and biomass.

https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news/2182487-chinas-2020-renewable-energy-output-rises

a major problem noted. So even IF the Chinese generate electricity from renewable resources, this is NOT GOOD enough.

Bloomberg News
June 5, 2022 at 11:15 PM EDT

China is wasting more and more clean energy as it adds wind turbines and solar panels faster than its grid is able to digest them.

Nearly 12% of power generated by wind turbines in Inner Mongolia this year has been wasted because the grid couldn’t take it, along with 10% of solar power in Qinghai, Economic Information Daily reported, citing government data. In sunny and windswept but sparsely populated Gansu province, the utilization rate of wind and solar power could drop below 90% this year from nearly 97% in 2021.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-06/china-s-renewable-energy-fleet-is-growing-too-fast-for-its-grid-l425v47z

“It’s harder to merge solar and wind power with the electricity grid” than to include coal-based power, says Hong Li. Renewable energy is “less reliable and that can make the grid unstable without advanced control systems in place”.

For example, in 2017, more than 30% of the renewable power produced in the sunny, windy provinces of Xinjiang and Gansu in northwest China was never used. That was because it couldn’t be delivered to where it was needed: the highly populated megacities of eastern China, such as Shanghai and Beijing, thousands of kilometres away (see ‘Less energy wasted’).

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02464-5

[bigtoughralf]

Thanks for providing lots more sources that demonstrate how far ahead China is when it comes to renewable energy.

When will the US show some responsibility and start trying to catch up?

[jusplay4fun]

Renewable Energy in the United States
Renewable energy generates about 20% of all U.S. electricity, and that percentage continues to grow.

https://www.energy.gov/eere/renewable-energy#:~:text=Renewable%20energy%20generates%20about%2020,that%20percentage%20continues%20to%20grow.

That is about the same as China.

And the Chinese STOLE most of that technology from the USA. NO Debate on that point.

[bigtoughralf]

jp thinks 29 is 'about the same' as 20.

No one ask him how old his girlfriend is.

[fat bastard]

Hey copy and paste gang. Hope all is well in your echo chamber. I was wondering if You had taken any steps to stop the earth from being crushed by our mistakes ?

Be sure to paste a chart.

[KoolBak]

So what beemer do you have?

[jimboston]

Is he being sarcastic?

Is he really a “climate denier” in the form of an “environmental zealot”?

[mookiemcgee]

Hey copy and paste gang. Hope all is well in your echo chamber. I was wondering if You had taken any steps to stop the earth from being crushed by our mistakes ?

Be sure to paste a chart.

Please view my signature

[fat bastard]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/15/us/pets- ... g-wellness

Sign me for upinsect-based diets or lab-grown meat

Killing pets next ?

[jusplay4fun]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/15/us/pets-climate-impact-lbg-wellness

Sign me for upinsect-based diets or lab-grown meat

Killing pets next ?

And also killing Fat Bastards with half a brain, who cannot see beyond their noses. Those are the ones Mookie loves to feed to the cannibals amongst us. Since their vision is so limited, they cannot run very far or fast (enough to escape) and they cannot read graphs, much less grasp what the graphs actually mean.

[Dukasaur]

Hey copy and paste gang. Hope all is well in your echo chamber. I was wondering if You had taken any steps to stop the earth from being crushed by our mistakes ?

Be sure to paste a chart.

I spent the last two days at the Green Party of Ontario AGM working out a plan for the next election.

[jusplay4fun]

jp thinks 29 is 'about the same' as 20.

No one ask him how old his girlfriend is.

ralph is just jealous as my girlfriend is 29, beautiful, smart, and amazing. ralph has only saxi, and ralph is locked up in saxi's basement "safe room."

[bigtoughralf]

ralph is just jealous as my girlfriend is 29, beautiful, smart, and amazing.

[Maxleod]

Revealed: Exxon made ‘breathtakingly’ accurate climate predictions in 1970s and 80s

Oil company drove some of the leading science of the era only to publicly dismiss global heating

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... g-research

The oil giant Exxon privately “predicted global warming correctly and skilfully” only to then spend decades publicly rubbishing such science in order to protect its core business, new research has found.

[jimboston]

Revealed: Exxon made ‘breathtakingly’ accurate climate predictions in 1970s and 80s

Oil company drove some of the leading science of the era only to publicly dismiss global heating

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... g-research

The oil giant Exxon privately “predicted global warming correctly and skilfully” only to then spend decades publicly rubbishing such science in order to protect its core business, new research has found.

Shock!

Corporations putting profit first!