Fascinating New Study on What Happens to Vaxed Over Time

[jusplay4fun]

As, IF, the ONLY thing that may have caused her death at age 96 was POSSIBLY the COVID Vaccine. This proves NOTHING.

I started to accuse saxi of this last post, but it was NOT.

[mookiemcgee]

As, IF, the ONLY thing that may have caused her death at age 96 was POSSIBLY the COVID Vaccine. This proves NOTHING.

I started to accuse saxi of this last post, but it was NOT.

[GaryDenton]

Saxi lies about what I wrote, again.

I specifically did not comment on this controversial new study but showed how Saxi had missed conclusions in other studies that did not fit his agenda, in fact, I quoted findings the opposite of his advocacy that showed the lack of vaccinations would cause many more deaths.

This study he is attacking me with is still being evaluated.

'COVID-19 Vaccine Boosters for Young Adults: A Risk-Benefit Assessment and Five Ethical Arguments against Mandates at Universities' Its sponsorship by extreme anti-vaxers being a caution to trusting it without further research.

He doesn't mention that another large study with the opposite conclusion studying data from January 2021 to July 2022 was also published at about the same time.

COVID-19 Vaccination Did Not Increase the Risk of Potentially Related Serious Adverse Events: 18-Month Cohort Study in an Italian Province.

In conclusion, COVID-19 vaccination was not associated with an increase of mortality or selected PVR-SAEs incidence.
These results were consistent across genders, age-classes, vaccine types, and SARS-CoV-2 infection status and did not vary in Cox models adjusting for age, gender, SARS-CoV-2 infection, and selected comorbidities. In the infected population, any dose of vaccine was associated with a lower likelihood of death and PVR-SAE.

Yes, anti-vaxers have latched onto that study indicating vaccine mandates for young healthy people are not a good policy. It may be true, but there are other studies that show the opposite. And this brushes away the many lives saved and illnesses avoided on not young, not healthy populations.

[jimboston]

As, IF, the ONLY thing that may have caused her death at age 96 was POSSIBLY the COVID Vaccine. This proves NOTHING.

I started to accuse saxi of this last post, but it was NOT.

I was calling him Capt. Obvious… but maybe it should be Lieutenant Literal?

[jusplay4fun]

Saxi lies about what I wrote, again.

I specifically did not comment on this controversial new study but showed how Saxi had missed conclusions in other studies that did not fit his agenda, in fact, I quoted findings the opposite of his advocacy that showed the lack of vaccinations would cause many more deaths.

This study he is attacking me with is still being evaluated.

'COVID-19 Vaccine Boosters for Young Adults: A Risk-Benefit Assessment and Five Ethical Arguments against Mandates at Universities' Its sponsorship by extreme anti-vaxers being a caution to trusting it without further research.

He doesn't mention that another large study with the opposite conclusion studying data from January 2021 to July 2022 was also published at about the same time.

COVID-19 Vaccination Did Not Increase the Risk of Potentially Related Serious Adverse Events: 18-Month Cohort Study in an Italian Province.

In conclusion, COVID-19 vaccination was not associated with an increase of mortality or selected PVR-SAEs incidence.
These results were consistent across genders, age-classes, vaccine types, and SARS-CoV-2 infection status and did not vary in Cox models adjusting for age, gender, SARS-CoV-2 infection, and selected comorbidities. In the infected population, any dose of vaccine was associated with a lower likelihood of death and PVR-SAE.

Yes, anti-vaxers have latched onto that study indicating vaccine mandates for young healthy people are not a good policy. It may be true, but there are other studies that show the opposite. And this brushes away the many lives saved and illnesses avoided on not young, not healthy populations.

This is typical of saxi and others who continue their patterns of LIES, Fake News, Obfuscation, and insults. And the same dribble from IDIOTS, who need to do more thinking and analysis before posting.

[ConfederateSS]

----------When is The President of The United States going to address the American people from the oval office like a real President, Instead of talking through his mouth pieces, hidding shit ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[jimboston]

----------When is The President of The United States going to address the American people from the oval office like a real President, Instead of talking through his mouth pieces, hidding shit ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

When are you going to stop posting like a retarded hillbilly?

Also “hidding”/“hiding”.

Fucking stoopid hillbilly.

[jimboston]

As, IF, the ONLY thing that may have caused her death at age 96 was POSSIBLY the COVID Vaccine. This proves NOTHING.

I started to accuse saxi of this last post, but it was NOT.

I was calling him Capt. Obvious… but maybe it should be Lieutenant Literal?

Your 2nd post (the one pointing out that your first post went over his head)… also apparently went over his head.

[saxitoxin]

Past COVID infection 'as good as vaccines' at preventing severe illness

Previous COVID infection boosts long-term immunity and lowers the risk of hospitalisation and death at the same level as vaccination, new peer-reviewed research shows.

The study, led by the University of Washington and published by The Lancet medical journal, is said to be the "most comprehensive study to date" on the impact of natural immunity for the disease.

https://news.sky.com/story/past-covid-i ... s-12812415

more propaganda by Russian robot super spies from Mars firing mind control lasers, of course (or whatever the latest conspiracy theory Gary believes, I can't keep track of each new version of his paranoid fever fantasies)

[Doc_Brown]

Past COVID infection 'as good as vaccines' at preventing severe illness

Previous COVID infection boosts long-term immunity and lowers the risk of hospitalisation and death at the same level as vaccination, new peer-reviewed research shows.

The study, led by the University of Washington and published by The Lancet medical journal, is said to be the "most comprehensive study to date" on the impact of natural immunity for the disease.

https://news.sky.com/story/past-covid-i ... s-12812415

more propaganda by Russian robot super spies from Mars firing mind control lasers, of course (or whatever the latest conspiracy theory Gary believes, I can't keep track of each new version of his paranoid fever fantasies)

Here is the full text of the study: Lancet Medical Journal
They state in the summary that the effectiveness of prior infection is comparable to vaccination, though the data shown in Figure 4 suggests that prior infection is significantly better than vaccination after 4 months. This is quite consistent with the studies in Sweden and Israel that I linked to in this forum previously.

[saxitoxin]

Past COVID infection 'as good as vaccines' at preventing severe illness

Previous COVID infection boosts long-term immunity and lowers the risk of hospitalisation and death at the same level as vaccination, new peer-reviewed research shows.

The study, led by the University of Washington and published by The Lancet medical journal, is said to be the "most comprehensive study to date" on the impact of natural immunity for the disease.

https://news.sky.com/story/past-covid-i ... s-12812415

more propaganda by Russian robot super spies from Mars firing mind control lasers, of course (or whatever the latest conspiracy theory Gary believes, I can't keep track of each new version of his paranoid fever fantasies)

Here is the full text of the study: Lancet Medical Journal
They state in the summary that the effectiveness of prior infection is comparable to vaccination, though the data shown in Figure 4 suggests that prior infection is significantly better than vaccination after 4 months. This is quite consistent with the studies in Sweden and Israel that I linked to in this forum previously.

According to Gary, mookie, and JP4, though, medical journals like The Lancet* can't be trusted. Science is chronicled in all caps Facebook posts.

* But issues published prior to September 2022 are okay because something

[mookiemcgee]

Past COVID infection 'as good as vaccines' at preventing severe illness

Previous COVID infection boosts long-term immunity and lowers the risk of hospitalisation and death at the same level as vaccination, new peer-reviewed research shows.

The study, led by the University of Washington and published by The Lancet medical journal, is said to be the "most comprehensive study to date" on the impact of natural immunity for the disease.

https://news.sky.com/story/past-covid-i ... s-12812415

more propaganda by Russian robot super spies from Mars firing mind control lasers, of course (or whatever the latest conspiracy theory Gary believes, I can't keep track of each new version of his paranoid fever fantasies)

Here is the full text of the study: Lancet Medical Journal
They state in the summary that the effectiveness of prior infection is comparable to vaccination, though the data shown in Figure 4 suggests that prior infection is significantly better than vaccination after 4 months. This is quite consistent with the studies in Sweden and Israel that I linked to in this forum previously.

The Lancet is a far-north, bird positive publication that has zero credibility within the BARC community. Saxi's right about me, I cant trust publications like this that use pro-bird language like 'avian influenza' and 'bird flu'.

[Dukasaur]

Past COVID infection 'as good as vaccines' at preventing severe illness

Previous COVID infection boosts long-term immunity and lowers the risk of hospitalisation and death at the same level as vaccination, new peer-reviewed research shows.

The study, led by the University of Washington and published by The Lancet medical journal, is said to be the "most comprehensive study to date" on the impact of natural immunity for the disease.

https://news.sky.com/story/past-covid-i ... s-12812415

more propaganda by Russian robot super spies from Mars firing mind control lasers, of course (or whatever the latest conspiracy theory Gary believes, I can't keep track of each new version of his paranoid fever fantasies)

Here is the full text of the study: Lancet Medical Journal
They state in the summary that the effectiveness of prior infection is comparable to vaccination, though the data shown in Figure 4 suggests that prior infection is significantly better than vaccination after 4 months. This is quite consistent with the studies in Sweden and Israel that I linked to in this forum previously.

The Lancet is a far-north, bird positive publication that has zero credibility within the BARC community. Saxi's right about me, I cant trust publications like this that use pro-bird language like 'avian influenza' and 'bird flu'.

How is bird flu 'pro-bird'? Sound like a vicious anti-bird slur.

[2dimes]

Turned on the tube and there was a commercial for a class action suit. “Acetaminophen injury”

“Did you take acetaminophen while waiting to calf? Does your kid have adhd? Call now!”(sic)

I love the US&A!

[KoolBak]

WTF does the USA have to do with it? Nothing. That is a HUMAN BEING symptom - greed and narcissism. This includes attorneys.

Look for stupid lawsuits all across the globe - there ya go.

Love that foreigners always cry about big bad USA. Incredible so many people keep coming here, eh?

More fun facts:

There is a common misconception that the U.S. is the most litigious nation in the World. This is simply untrue. While it’s true that the U.S. has a large number of lawsuits crowding its courts each year, it barely cracks the Top 5 of most litigious countries in the world. In his book, “Exploring Global Landscapes of Litigation,” Christian Wollschlager notes that the litigation rates per 1,000 people shows that European nations top the list of the world’s most litigious countries. Here is a list of the top 5 most litigious countries by capita: 1. Germany: 123.2/1,000 2. Sweden: 111.2/1,000 3. Israel: 96.8/1,000 4. Austria: 95.9/1,000 5. U.S.: 74.5/1,000. The Top 10 also includes the UK (64.4); Denmark (62.5); Hungary (52.4); Portugal (40.7); and France (40.3).

[jusplay4fun]

Past COVID infection 'as good as vaccines' at preventing severe illness

Previous COVID infection boosts long-term immunity and lowers the risk of hospitalisation and death at the same level as vaccination, new peer-reviewed research shows.

The study, led by the University of Washington and published by The Lancet medical journal, is said to be the "most comprehensive study to date" on the impact of natural immunity for the disease.

https://news.sky.com/story/past-covid-i ... s-12812415

more propaganda by Russian robot super spies from Mars firing mind control lasers, of course (or whatever the latest conspiracy theory Gary believes, I can't keep track of each new version of his paranoid fever fantasies)

Here is the full text of the study: Lancet Medical Journal
They state in the summary that the effectiveness of prior infection is comparable to vaccination, though the data shown in Figure 4 suggests that prior infection is significantly better than vaccination after 4 months. This is quite consistent with the studies in Sweden and Israel that I linked to in this forum previously.

According to Gary, mookie, and JP4, though, medical journals like The Lancet* can't be trusted. Science is chronicled in all caps Facebook posts.

* But issues published prior to September 2022 are okay because something

I do not question reputable Medical Journals; what I question is your INTERPRETATION of what you think you have read. You take statements and ideas from them to twist them to fit your FAKE NEWS.

[bigtoughralf]

Americans agitating against Covid vaccines are likely being duped by information concocted by Chinese dissidents seeking to destabilise both the Democrat party and Chinese Communist Party, disseminated via a platform called the 'Epoch Times' that these dissidents launched and continue to fund:

https://www.codastory.com/disinformation/epoch-times/
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/epoch- ... attention/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... communists

This dissident group - known as Falun Gong - have already been outlawed within China and proscribed by Chinese Buddhist, Daoist, Christian and Muslim faith leaders for their dangerous cult-like beliefs and attempts to destabilise Chinese government and policy-making.

[2dimes]

WTF does the USA have to do with it? Nothing. That is a HUMAN BEING symptom - greed and narcissism. This includes attorneys.

Look for stupid lawsuits all across the globe - there ya go.

Love that foreigners always cry about big bad USA. Incredible so many people keep coming here, eh?

More fun facts:

There is a common misconception that the U.S. is the most litigious nation in the World. This is simply untrue. While it’s true that the U.S. has a large number of lawsuits crowding its courts each year, it barely cracks the Top 5 of most litigious countries in the world. In his book, “Exploring Global Landscapes of Litigation,” Christian Wollschlager notes that the litigation rates per 1,000 people shows that European nations top the list of the world’s most litigious countries. Here is a list of the top 5 most litigious countries by capita: 1. Germany: 123.2/1,000 2. Sweden: 111.2/1,000 3. Israel: 96.8/1,000 4. Austria: 95.9/1,000 5. U.S.: 74.5/1,000. The Top 10 also includes the UK (64.4); Denmark (62.5); Hungary (52.4); Portugal (40.7); and France (40.3).

Well, I suppose I didn’t watch enough television when I have been to France, so I missed those commercials there.

I have been to a few countries where like Canuckistan, you can’t watch commercials trying to get a class action suit going against big acetaminophen, Australia, Egypt, NewZealand…

I was going to say, unlike the greatest country in the world, some of them have questionable tap water but, Flint.

I still love to hang out in all five countries I mentioned above.

[saxitoxin]

Past COVID infection 'as good as vaccines' at preventing severe illness

Previous COVID infection boosts long-term immunity and lowers the risk of hospitalisation and death at the same level as vaccination, new peer-reviewed research shows.

The study, led by the University of Washington and published by The Lancet medical journal, is said to be the "most comprehensive study to date" on the impact of natural immunity for the disease.

https://news.sky.com/story/past-covid-i ... s-12812415

more propaganda by Russian robot super spies from Mars firing mind control lasers, of course (or whatever the latest conspiracy theory Gary believes, I can't keep track of each new version of his paranoid fever fantasies)

Here is the full text of the study: Lancet Medical Journal
They state in the summary that the effectiveness of prior infection is comparable to vaccination, though the data shown in Figure 4 suggests that prior infection is significantly better than vaccination after 4 months. This is quite consistent with the studies in Sweden and Israel that I linked to in this forum previously.

According to Gary, mookie, and JP4, though, medical journals like The Lancet* can't be trusted. Science is chronicled in all caps Facebook posts.

* But issues published prior to September 2022 are okay because something

I do not question reputable Medical Journals; what I question is your INTERPRETATION of what you think you have read. You take statements and ideas from them to twist them to fit your FAKE NEWS.

Here's NBC News' take on the study JP4 is claiming I "misinterpreted." ↓



Once again, everyone is "misinterpreting" the accelerating avalanche of studies that say the vax is either unsafe or ineffective. But Gary, JP4, mookie, Occupy Democrats, and The Palmer Report are finding secret messages Kamala Harris has encoded in them that tell the truth of the wonders of the miracle medicine. Unfortunately, Russian robot spies from Mars have used their mind control lasers to hide these messages that only they can see.

These guys.

[saxitoxin]

Americans agitating against Covid vaccines are likely being duped by information concocted by Chinese dissidents seeking to destabilise both the Democrat party and Chinese Communist Party, disseminated via a platform called the 'Epoch Times' that these dissidents launched and continue to fund:

https://www.codastory.com/disinformation/epoch-times/
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/epoch- ... attention/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... communists

This dissident group - known as Falun Gong - have already been outlawed within China and proscribed by Chinese Buddhist, Daoist, Christian and Muslim faith leaders for their dangerous cult-like beliefs and attempts to destabilise Chinese government and policy-making.

I agree with Ralf, the Falun Gong -- which the U.S. Government cries crocodile tears over -- is a bizarre cult. However, Ralf is not legitimately anti-FG. He just has a crush on Roman Balmokov. He told me.

[bigtoughralf]

Incorrecto. As a general rule I don't like cults of personality and Falun Gong is indisputably one.

The last time China was home to a religious movement whose leader claimed to be a deity, a Christian uprising led to a civil war that killed more people than World War 1. This time, not only are the cultists seeking to overthrow China's government but they are also using Western social media to promote anti-medical propaganda. You can see why the Chinese government moved to suppress the Falun Gong as quickly as it did.

[saxitoxin]

Der Welt, an Axel Springer publication and the third largest newspaper in Germany, this morning:

Die vielen Ungereimtheiten bei der Pfizer-Zulassungsstudie

Pfizer's mRNA vaccine may have been approved on the basis of incorrect documentation. There are more and more doubts about the data from the crucial phase 3 study.

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland ... tudie.html

Cue JP4: "Saxi you're misinterpreting this! In Germany, "incorrect" is a euphemism for 'sexy' and 'doubts' means 'pelvic thrusts.' So they're actually saying it was approved on the basis of sexy information and people are so happy about it they're pelvic thrusting. Saxi, stop spreading FAKE NEWS!"

Cue Gary: "I read on Occupy Democrats that Putin's nephew works in Der Welt's mailroom and probably was using Russian mind control rays on their editors who may have forgot to wear their Russian ray-blocking head shields that day. It's all a multi-layered conspiracy involving Russia, the U.S. Post Office, and Kanye West. Don't be brainwashed into believing it!"

[mookiemcgee]

Past COVID infection 'as good as vaccines' at preventing severe illness

Previous COVID infection boosts long-term immunity and lowers the risk of hospitalisation and death at the same level as vaccination, new peer-reviewed research shows.

The study, led by the University of Washington and published by The Lancet medical journal, is said to be the "most comprehensive study to date" on the impact of natural immunity for the disease.

https://news.sky.com/story/past-covid-i ... s-12812415

more propaganda by Russian robot super spies from Mars firing mind control lasers, of course (or whatever the latest conspiracy theory Gary believes, I can't keep track of each new version of his paranoid fever fantasies)

Here is the full text of the study: Lancet Medical Journal
They state in the summary that the effectiveness of prior infection is comparable to vaccination, though the data shown in Figure 4 suggests that prior infection is significantly better than vaccination after 4 months. This is quite consistent with the studies in Sweden and Israel that I linked to in this forum previously.

The Lancet is a far-north, bird positive publication that has zero credibility within the BARC community. Saxi's right about me, I cant trust publications like this that use pro-bird language like 'avian influenza' and 'bird flu'.

How is bird flu 'pro-bird'? Sound like a vicious anti-bird slur.

Yeah i struggled with that while writing it, since birds aren't real though any promotion of the bird narrative in society is effectively bird positive. Drones don't have feelings, you can't insult them and by associating them into pop-culture language you are effectively promoting fakebird culture. It's also just a joke.

To me it's never really been a question or surprise that natural immunity is a longer lasting and potentially stronger immunity than Covid vaccine based immunity. From the start I've felt mass vaccination was about preventing covid from taking a foothold and that battle is lost already. I'm pretty much in lock step with the idea the vaccine should only be used on high risk people who have a high chance of dying in the process of gaining 'natural immunity'.

[jimboston]

Turned on the tube and there was a commercial for a class action suit. “Acetaminophen injury”

“Did you take acetaminophen while waiting to calf? Does your kid have adhd? Call now!”(sic)

I love the US&A!

Fuckin lawyers!

Turns out there may be a correlation between overdoing on Tylenol (or other pain meds) and ADHD.

The study (which appears to be a meta-study of data from other research and not a DIRECT study) showed some correlation…. it doesn’t determine causation. That’s enough for the vulture lawyers to swoop in and start getting dumb people with dumb kids to sign up!

Fucking 90% of ADHD cases are bullshit anyway IMHO.

They lock these kids in classrooms for 9 hours a day and expect them to sit still.
That’s NOT normal.

It’s like people who live in cities and get dogs and then lock them in the house for hours every day while they are at work… then they are surprised when the dogs get restless and chew shit… so they give the dogs pills. Fuckin’ pathetic.

[jusplay4fun]

Past COVID infection 'as good as vaccines' at preventing severe illness

Previous COVID infection boosts long-term immunity and lowers the risk of hospitalisation and death at the same level as vaccination, new peer-reviewed research shows.

The study, led by the University of Washington and published by The Lancet medical journal, is said to be the "most comprehensive study to date" on the impact of natural immunity for the disease.

https://news.sky.com/story/past-covid-i ... s-12812415

more propaganda by Russian robot super spies from Mars firing mind control lasers, of course (or whatever the latest conspiracy theory Gary believes, I can't keep track of each new version of his paranoid fever fantasies)

Here is the full text of the study: Lancet Medical Journal
They state in the summary that the effectiveness of prior infection is comparable to vaccination, though the data shown in Figure 4 suggests that prior infection is significantly better than vaccination after 4 months. This is quite consistent with the studies in Sweden and Israel that I linked to in this forum previously.

The Lancet is a far-north, bird positive publication that has zero credibility within the BARC community. Saxi's right about me, I cant trust publications like this that use pro-bird language like 'avian influenza' and 'bird flu'.

How is bird flu 'pro-bird'? Sound like a vicious anti-bird slur.

Yeah i struggled with that while writing it, since birds aren't real though any promotion of the bird narrative in society is effectively bird positive. Drones don't have feelings, you can't insult them and by associating them into pop-culture language you are effectively promoting fakebird culture. It's also just a joke.

To me it's never really been a question or surprise that natural immunity is a longer lasting and potentially stronger immunity than Covid vaccine based immunity. From the start I've felt mass vaccination was about preventing covid from taking a foothold and that battle is lost already. I'm pretty much in lock step with the idea the vaccine should only be used on high risk people who have a high chance of dying in the process of gaining 'natural immunity'.

saxi said:

From the start I've felt mass vaccination was about preventing covid from taking a foothold

The "analysis" or argument by saxi is OFF, again. By the time the vaccines were AVAILABLE, the virus was OUT and killing many (and making many more SICK). So the virus already HAD A foothold; the vaccine could NOT prevent the virus foothold.

The COVID vaccine, like ALL other vaccines, are intended to minimize illness and death. This goes back to the FIRST vaccine, for smallpox. By the time the vaccine is available, the virus or bacteria has established a foothold. You struck OUT on that one, saxi.