ACLU Has Priorities Straight?

[Dukasaur]

Maybe the statistics are invalid because of this… but it doesn’t negate my point.

I have no evidence, but I'm still right

That's an incorrect paraphrase.

He provided evidence. It wasn't strong enough to be considered proof, but it did point in the direction of the point he was making.

Inferring things with inadequate evidence for scientific proof is something we all do every day. Almost every situation you encounter in life involves less data than you wish you had. You work with what's available.

[jusplay4fun]

Maybe the statistics are invalid because of this… but it doesn’t negate my point.

I have no evidence, but I'm still right

That's an incorrect paraphrase.

He provided evidence. It wasn't strong enough to be considered proof, but it did point in the direction of the point he was making.

Inferring things with inadequate evidence for scientific proof is something we all do every day. Almost every situation you encounter in life involves less data than you wish you had. You work with what's available.

who provided evidence, Duk? JimB or ralph?

[GaryDenton]

White males are much more likely than other populations to be mass shooters.

The data set is too small to say anything about transgendered males. When they have committed at least 30 mass shootings we can do a study. It looks like they may be up with White males.

Market research used to be my profession.

[jusplay4fun]

Per-capita Trans Identifying People might be the most likely perps of mass shootings?

It's still almost 100% cis men, but nice try. Mostly white men.

The answer is clear: raise the bar for white men applying for firearms license (e.g. assessing their extremist leanings, family checks, trackers on their guns if allowed to own one).

Do you not understand the term “per-capita”?

Despite the recent Pro-Trans Indoctrination movement, they still only represent a fraction of a percentage of the American public.

Since 1982 there have been 141 Mass Shootings.
(See link… I apologize if I counted wrong.)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/811 ... in-the-us/

There have been I believe 3 Mass Shooting committed by Trans identifying people in this same time… and one averted just recently in Colorado.

They are committing 2.1% of Mass Shootings… even though they represent only a fraction of a percentage.
You can find wildly varying answers to what that % is but the NIH said 1/250 or about 0.4%.
(That’s about 1million people in the USA.)

So 3 for 1,000,000 versus 138 for 80,000,000.

So 1 out of 333,000 trans people are mass murderers,
and 1 out of every 580,000 american men are mass murderers.

The population number is dated 2020… so I may be. off slightly.

I have not excluded female mass murderers…. that would improve the number a bit.

I could just compare “trans-versus-natural” gendered people… which would raise the population and make it be like 1 out of every 1,160,000 natural-gendered Americans are mass murders.

So yeah… on a per capita basis a transperson is substantially more likely to commit mass murder than an American man.
——-

Back to a lesson on language….

The prefix “cis” as used by Pro-TransActivists is invalid and I don’t accept it.

Transpeople demand we their “preferred pronouns”… and I am willing to do that on personal/individual basis with humans I know and respect.*

(*In most cases… I’ll use she/her for a Transwoman and he/him for an Transman if/when they present as the pronouns would suggest.
I will not used “they/them” because these are plural pronouns which have historical connotations that offend me as an American.)

As a natural male I refuse to accept the prefix “cis” being applied to me.

I have as AT LEAST as much right to demand my prefix’s as transpeople have to demand their pronouns.

I am not a cismale or cisman, I am just a man.

Prefix of trans is perfectly appropriate to apply to transpeople, so transman or transwoman are appropriate, because they accurately describe the fact that they have or are TRANSitioning to a sex different than the sex they were born.

I think JimB presents his data and conclusion here well.

However, I think his number or Mass Murders is too low.

As of late March, the Gun Violence Archive has counted 130 mass shootings in the United States this year.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/mass-shootings-2023.html

and:

Since 2015, over 19,000 people have been shot and wounded or killed in a mass shooting. In 2022 alone, over 600 people were killed, with over 2,700 wounded.



Both the number of mass shooting incidents and the number of people shot in them have increased since 2015, reaching a high of 686 mass shooting incidents in 2021.

https://everytownresearch.org/mass-shootings-in-america/

[mookiemcgee]

This is a really stupid debate lol. You can twist these extremely low likehood events into stats proving whatever you like more or less especially when you try comparing them to total population. Like if you compare Jims numbers to Jusplays you could say that trans people are actually less likely to be mass shooters, but more likely to kill people in mass shootings. So clearly trans people aren't 'worse' they are simply 'better shots' than cis gendered male mass shooters. Beyond that all of this is based on numbers pulled from God knows where about the total trans population.

None of it is relevant to the fact that more kids in a school were killed, and the only solution to the problem anyone seems to have come up with is 'leave america when your kids are school age'

[bigtoughralf]

White males are much more likely than other populations to be mass shooters.

The data set is too small to say anything about transgendered males. When they have committed at least 30 mass shootings we can do a study. It looks like they may be up with White males.

Market research used to be my profession.

And I'm a trained social researcher, but unfortunately jim saw something on the news and as we all know that counts as several PhDs.

[Dukasaur]

Maybe the statistics are invalid because of this… but it doesn’t negate my point.

I have no evidence, but I'm still right

That's an incorrect paraphrase.

He provided evidence. It wasn't strong enough to be considered proof, but it did point in the direction of the point he was making.

Inferring things with inadequate evidence for scientific proof is something we all do every day. Almost every situation you encounter in life involves less data than you wish you had. You work with what's available.

who provided evidence, Duk? JimB or ralph?

Jim.

White males are much more likely than other populations to be mass shooters.

The data set is too small to say anything about transgendered males. When they have committed at least 30 mass shootings we can do a study. It looks like they may be up with White males.

Market research used to be my profession.

And I'm a trained social researcher, but unfortunately jim saw something on the news and as we all know that counts as several PhDs.

A friend of mine with a Sociology degree used to say:

I have a Sociology degree. Qualifies me for two things. To hand out welfare. Or to collect it.

White males are much more likely than other populations to be mass shooters.

The data set is too small to say anything about transgendered males. When they have committed at least 30 mass shootings we can do a study. It looks like they may be up with White males.

Market research used to be my profession.

As Bill Maher always points out, almost all mass murderers are guys who aren't getting laid.

Bill Maher has a History degree, but regardless of that he's the only American commentator who's opinion I trust.

Most of them are religious but some are not. Many are white but some are not. What all have in common is sexual frustration. They are simply not getting laid, and that is the most important part of the puzzle. Nobody with a healthy sex life wants to go out and kill innocent people.

How much parallel there is between incels and trannies, I leave to you gentlemen and your enormous wisdom.

[jimboston]

https://time.com/6269728/trans_represen ... -backlash/

It really doesn’t matter what top management at Anheuser-Busch (AB) thinks.

They featured a flamboyantly gay man doing a parody of a woman as their spokesperson.
They made this decision to increase sales.

So… what will happen?

Will mainstream America reject this continued attack on our core values?
-or-
Will woke Americans go out and buy AB products to show their support?

I mean, I have to believe that the core Bud Light drinkers are the opposite of “Woke”. The question is are they aware enough, and do they care enough, to switch brands because of an Ad Campaign like this? My brother-in-law was a 12-pack-a-day Bud Light drinker. People like him, who buy the vast majority of this product, don’t like change. Getting this guy to change brands of beer or cigarettes is would’ve been a big ask. (He’s dead now so I can’t ask.). These people are, IMHO, mostly creatures of habit. So it’s hard for me to believe they can be mobilized in vast numbers… yet at. the same time this ad campaign is definitely a slap in the face to their politics.

Meanwhile, I think the people this agenda appeals to… Woke, young, city living liberals for the most part… they don’t drink beer generally, and if they do it’s fancy local microbrews or nanobrews. Will these people abandon their non-beer alcohol or microbrews and flock to Bud Light? I don’t see it.

I think there’s very little upside for AB… so I’m surprised they even tried this campaign. That said, their sales have been dropping as their core customer base ages and dies, so they have to “go big” I guess. The downside potential is HIGH but the challenges of motivating people to switch long term is real.

I predict a small drop in sales for a short period… then a return to the status-quo steady decline. I’d LOVE to see a Boycott so intense that Bud Light has to backpedal and apologize… but I don’t see that happened. Even a strong Boycott is unlikely to solicit any apology as there are other risks involved in making a retraction public like that. The BEST we can hope for is a strong enough Boycott that behind closed doors they realize it was a mistake; and other major companies learn from it.

Thoughts?

[jusplay4fun]

Per-capita Trans Identifying People might be the most likely perps of mass shootings?

It's still almost 100% cis men, but nice try. Mostly white men.

The answer is clear: raise the bar for white men applying for firearms license (e.g. assessing their extremist leanings, family checks, trackers on their guns if allowed to own one).

Do you not understand the term “per-capita”?

Despite the recent Pro-Trans Indoctrination movement, they still only represent a fraction of a percentage of the American public.

Since 1982 there have been 141 Mass Shootings.
(See link… I apologize if I counted wrong.)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/811 ... in-the-us/

There have been I believe 3 Mass Shooting committed by Trans identifying people in this same time… and one averted just recently in Colorado.

They are committing 2.1% of Mass Shootings… even though they represent only a fraction of a percentage.
You can find wildly varying answers to what that % is but the NIH said 1/250 or about 0.4%.
(That’s about 1million people in the USA.)

So 3 for 1,000,000 versus 138 for 80,000,000.

So 1 out of 333,000 trans people are mass murderers,
and 1 out of every 580,000 american men are mass murderers.

The population number is dated 2020… so I may be. off slightly.

I have not excluded female mass murderers…. that would improve the number a bit.

I could just compare “trans-versus-natural” gendered people… which would raise the population and make it be like 1 out of every 1,160,000 natural-gendered Americans are mass murders.

So yeah… on a per capita basis a transperson is substantially more likely to commit mass murder than an American man.
——-

Back to a lesson on language….

The prefix “cis” as used by Pro-TransActivists is invalid and I don’t accept it.

Transpeople demand we their “preferred pronouns”… and I am willing to do that on personal/individual basis with humans I know and respect.*

(*In most cases… I’ll use she/her for a Transwoman and he/him for an Transman if/when they present as the pronouns would suggest.
I will not used “they/them” because these are plural pronouns which have historical connotations that offend me as an American.)

As a natural male I refuse to accept the prefix “cis” being applied to me.

I have as AT LEAST as much right to demand my prefix’s as transpeople have to demand their pronouns.

I am not a cismale or cisman, I am just a man.

Prefix of trans is perfectly appropriate to apply to transpeople, so transman or transwoman are appropriate, because they accurately describe the fact that they have or are TRANSitioning to a sex different than the sex they were born.

I think JimB presents his data and conclusion here well.

However, I think his number or Mass Murders is too low.

As of late March, the Gun Violence Archive has counted 130 mass shootings in the United States this year.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/mass-shootings-2023.html

and:

Since 2015, over 19,000 people have been shot and wounded or killed in a mass shooting. In 2022 alone, over 600 people were killed, with over 2,700 wounded.



Both the number of mass shooting incidents and the number of people shot in them have increased since 2015, reaching a high of 686 mass shooting incidents in 2021.

https://everytownresearch.org/mass-shootings-in-america/

More stats, and closer to JimB's number:

Of 192 public mass shooters in the U.S. since 1966, at least 58 were “workplace” shooters – about 30%, according to The Violence Project. "Today would be the 59th workplace shooter in our data," said James Densley, co-founder of the nonprofit research center.

The Violence Project defines a mass shooting in which four or more people are killed with firearms – excluding the shooter – in a single, public event not connected to an underlying crime like robbery.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/04/10/who-is-louisville-bank-shooter-motive/11634817002/

I think the definition of "mass shooting" varies, based on the source.

[xroads]

Out of business, not a chance

A dent in sales short term, definitely

[DirtyDishSoap]

I just find it funny that this is what people choose to get butt hurt over. Big deal? It's not as if drinking the shit will remove your wiener over night. Plenty of other topics that are way more worthy of attention than this stupid fiasco.

[DirtyDishSoap]

This is a really stupid debate lol. You can twist these extremely low likehood events into stats proving whatever you like more or less especially when you try comparing them to total population. Like if you compare Jims numbers to Jusplays you could say that trans people are actually less likely to be mass shooters, but more likely to kill people in mass shootings. So clearly trans people aren't 'worse' they are simply 'better shots' than cis gendered male mass shooters. Beyond that all of this is based on numbers pulled from God knows where about the total trans population.

None of it is relevant to the fact that more kids in a school were killed, and the only solution to the problem anyone seems to have come up with is 'leave america when your kids are school age'

^This. And also the solution is more guns/security. The literal answer is meeting more violence with violence. The f*ck? How did we end up with that?

It also deflects any underlying problems that we have in society. I believe we've suffered around 140 mass shootings this year alone. And it's April. The conversation shouldn't be numbers or statistics, but rather why the rise in mass shootings, and what's causing it? Probably stop giving these people a platform and highlighting their names for a start. For example: The Kentucky shooting that took place yesterday. The guy livestreamed his shooting apparently to Instagram. That just tells me he was just trying to make a name for himself. Some sick glamour. We put these serial killers into documentaries and some really fucked up people have a thing for like Jeffery Dahmer, a guy who ate people and lobotomized a kid.

Here's a stupid article that speculates that it's male masculinity. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64377360

I can 100% tell you that that isn't the problem, and it's likely the opposite.

I think the main problem is we're now an attention seeking society. Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, Facebook, all these platforms that pay per popularity, or some low quality/effort bullshit like OnlyFans. And if you can't get famous, then go down in infamy. Everyone want's to have their name plastered out there in some form or fashion. Somewhere along the lines, we've really fucked up.

[saxitoxin]

Dylan Mulvany is a gay man posing in sexual-blackface as a caricature of a stereotypical flamboyant woman.

Jim and I agree on something! Dylan is definitely playing a parody of a woman and a lot of companies and the White House are enabling him to play this character that casts women as vapid lunatics.

How many women go skipping through a field wearing a bra and high heels, while giggling, then see a dragonfly and go running away while squealing and crying? Dylvan didn't will himself into becoming a woman, he's acting out a cartoon-style Looney Tunes character of a woman. And the White House has determined he's the face and representative of transgenderism.



If this is the federal government-approved representative of transgenderism, why should I believe any trannies are anything more than circuit piss queen gays doing a costume parody? I'm totally fine with parody and play acting, for the record; just not sure how I feel about amputating the genitals of children and shooting them up with highly toxic puberty blockers as performance art.

[saxitoxin]

Legendary University of Arizona swimmer Riley Gaines - one of the most decorated swimmers in collegiate history - appeared at San Francisco State University last week to advocate for women-only sports, versus the White House-pushed new standard of women sharing their sports with men parodying women.

A group of men who believe they have willed themselves into becoming women surrounded her, beat her, and then held her hostage for three hours until she agreed to sign a statement affirming their delusion that the men had mind-melded into women.



This was done under the banner of the "Trans Rights is Human Rights" dog whistle put out by the White House which claims that 4 year olds can be transgendered and decide to have their genitals amputated and that trannies are somehow linked to gays, despite the widespread rejection of the gay community in mixing gender identity with sexual preference.

[saxitoxin]

It's not as if drinking the shit will remove your wiener over night.

you're one to talk -- if you don't have one, you can't lose it DDS

[DirtyDishSoap]

It's not as if drinking the shit will remove your wiener over night.

you're one to talk -- if you don't have one, you can't lose it DDS

I could always use this big black dildo and shove it up your ass and make you sing Bohemian Rhapsody.

[jimboston]

I just find it funny that this is what people choose to get butt hurt over. Big deal? It's not as if drinking the shit will remove your wiener over night. Plenty of other topics that are way more worthy of attention than this stupid fiasco.

Have you wat he’d any of this dude’s videos?

[jimboston]

This is a really stupid debate lol. You can twist these extremely low likehood events into stats proving whatever you like more or less especially when you try comparing them to total population. Like if you compare Jims numbers to Jusplays you could say that trans people are actually less likely to be mass shooters, but more likely to kill people in mass shootings. So clearly trans people aren't 'worse' they are simply 'better shots' than cis gendered male mass shooters. Beyond that all of this is based on numbers pulled from God knows where about the total trans population.

None of it is relevant to the fact that more kids in a school were killed, and the only solution to the problem anyone seems to have come up with is 'leave america when your kids are school age'

^This. And also the solution is more guns/security. The literal answer is meeting more violence with violence. The f*ck? How did we end up with that?

It also deflects any underlying problems that we have in society. I believe we've suffered around 140 mass shootings this year alone. And it's April. The conversation shouldn't be numbers or statistics, but rather why the rise in mass shootings, and what's causing it? Probably stop giving these people a platform and highlighting their names for a start. For example: The Kentucky shooting that took place yesterday. The guy livestreamed his shooting apparently to Instagram. That just tells me he was just trying to make a name for himself. Some sick glamour. We put these serial killers into documentaries and some really fucked up people have a thing for like Jeffery Dahmer, a guy who ate people and lobotomized a kid.

Here's a stupid article that speculates that it's male masculinity. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64377360

I can 100% tell you that that isn't the problem, and it's likely the opposite.

I think the main problem is we're now an attention seeking society. Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, Facebook, all these platforms that pay per popularity, or some low quality/effort bullshit like OnlyFans. And if you can't get famous, then go down in infamy. Everyone want's to have their name plastered out there in some form or fashion. Somewhere along the lines, we've really fucked up.

I’ve read that it dates back to the industrialization of America.

This lead to the beginnings of the destruction of single-income family and a loss of people’s community/support network.
As time went by people moved further away from their families, religious communities because less important to many, etc.
(Obviously there are plus’s to industrialization… but there are negatives as well.)

Even in the 70’s when I was growing up we knew all our neighbors. I’d get home from school and my mom would tell me to run up the street to a neighbor because they needed a piece of furniture moved or maybe the husband needed some help in the yard or whatever. They knew to call my house because I had 5 brothers so there was always someone around to help. I rarely got paid cash… maybe I’d get a buck or a couple dollars if it was a big job, but that was not often. More often I got a cookie and a glass of milk and a “thank you”. My parents both worked so in the summer they could rarely take us places, but often enough some mom or older sister would be driving to a lake and we’d cram in the car and go swimming all day. My parents never worried as there never seemed to be much to worry about.

I make a point of trying to know my neighbors…but even when I introduce myself to knew neighbors rarely anything comes from it. I’ll get a friendly “hi” when I’m outside… but I’ve invited people to socialize and come swimming… and they have come…but people get busy and it doesn’t often get reciprocated. When I first moved to this neighborhood 16years ago there was one guy who kinda acted as the neighbor glue and several of us would go get beers and go to the racetrack (dogs) maybe 4 times a year… that stopped when he moved.

I liked the old ways better… but I’m a “Boomer” so what do you expect.

(Not really a Boomer… GenX… but Mookie will call me a Boomer so…)

[jimboston]

Dylan Mulvany is a gay man posing in sexual-blackface as a caricature of a stereotypical flamboyant woman.

Jim and I agree on something! Dylan is definitely playing a parody of a woman and a lot of companies and the White House are enabling him to play this character that casts women as vapid lunatics.

How many women go skipping through a field wearing a bra and high heels, while giggling, then see a dragonfly and go running away while squealing and crying? Dylvan didn't will himself into becoming a woman, he's acting out a cartoon-style Looney Tunes character of a woman. And the White House has determined he's the face and representative of transgenderism.



If this is the federal government-approved representative of transgenderism, why should I believe any trannies are anything more than circuit piss queen gays doing a costume parody? I'm totally fine with parody and play acting, for the record; just not sure how I feel about amputating the genitals of children and shooting them up with highly toxic puberty blockers as performance art.

I honestly think he’s like the absolute worst person they could choose to be the “face” of this “community”.

I think maybe they assume we normal people see him as unthreatening and kinda comical… and so that’s the justification.

[DirtyDishSoap]

I just find it funny that this is what people choose to get butt hurt over. Big deal? It's not as if drinking the shit will remove your wiener over night. Plenty of other topics that are way more worthy of attention than this stupid fiasco.

Have you wat he’d any of this dude’s videos?

No, and I personally could care less. As I said before, plenty of other things that would grab my attention more than...This.

And I get what you're saying about how everyone is really closed off now. That's just how my generation and this next generation is, it's more geared to finding fame and fortune or finding connections via the internet than making any real connections in person.

[jusplay4fun]

This is a really stupid debate lol. You can twist these extremely low likehood events into stats proving whatever you like more or less especially when you try comparing them to total population. Like if you compare Jims numbers to Jusplays you could say that trans people are actually less likely to be mass shooters, but more likely to kill people in mass shootings. So clearly trans people aren't 'worse' they are simply 'better shots' than cis gendered male mass shooters. Beyond that all of this is based on numbers pulled from God knows where about the total trans population.

None of it is relevant to the fact that more kids in a school were killed, and the only solution to the problem anyone seems to have come up with is 'leave america when your kids are school age'

^This. And also the solution is more guns/security. The literal answer is meeting more violence with violence. The f*ck? How did we end up with that?

It also deflects any underlying problems that we have in society. I believe we've suffered around 140 mass shootings this year alone. And it's April. The conversation shouldn't be numbers or statistics, but rather why the rise in mass shootings, and what's causing it? Probably stop giving these people a platform and highlighting their names for a start. For example: The Kentucky shooting that took place yesterday. The guy livestreamed his shooting apparently to Instagram. That just tells me he was just trying to make a name for himself. Some sick glamour. We put these serial killers into documentaries and some really fucked up people have a thing for like Jeffery Dahmer, a guy who ate people and lobotomized a kid.

Here's a stupid article that speculates that it's male masculinity. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64377360

I can 100% tell you that that isn't the problem, and it's likely the opposite.

I think the main problem is we're now an attention seeking society. Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, Facebook, all these platforms that pay per popularity, or some low quality/effort bullshit like OnlyFans. And if you can't get famous, then go down in infamy. Everyone want's to have their name plastered out there in some form or fashion. Somewhere along the lines, we've really fucked up.

I’ve read that it dates back to the industrialization of America.

This lead to the beginnings of the destruction of single-income family and a loss of people’s community/support network.
As time went by people moved further away from their families, religious communities because less important to many, etc.
(Obviously there are plus’s to industrialization… but there are negatives as well.)

Even in the 70’s when I was growing up we knew all our neighbors. I’d get home from school and my mom would tell me to run up the street to a neighbor because they needed a piece of furniture moved or maybe the husband needed some help in the yard or whatever. They knew to call my house because I had 5 brothers so there was always someone around to help. I rarely got paid cash… maybe I’d get a buck or a couple dollars if it was a big job, but that was not often. More often I got a cookie and a glass of milk and a “thank you”. My parents both worked so in the summer they could rarely take us places, but often enough some mom or older sister would be driving to a lake and we’d cram in the car and go swimming all day. My parents never worried as there never seemed to be much to worry about.

I make a point of trying to know my neighbors…but even when I introduce myself to knew neighbors rarely anything comes from it. I’ll get a friendly “hi” when I’m outside… but I’ve invited people to socialize and come swimming… and they have come…but people get busy and it doesn’t often get reciprocated. When I first moved to this neighborhood 16years ago there was one guy who kinda acted as the neighbor glue and several of us would go get beers and go to the racetrack (dogs) maybe 4 times a year… that stopped when he moved.

I liked the old ways better… but I’m a “Boomer” so what do you expect.

(Not really a Boomer… GenX… but Mookie will call me a Boomer so…)

I agree with both DDS and JimB on many key points here.

Lesson #1 STOP giving these guys attention that they CRAVE. STOP publishing NAMES of the killers. That would help A LOT.

[saxitoxin]

If someone is suffering from serious delusions I agree just live and let live and don't worry about it.

But, in this case, there is a megaphone turned up to an 11 slamming us for 23 hours a day demanding we pay attention. The White House is sending open letters congratulating DM on "365 days of girlhood," America's largest companies are retooling their advertising to put DM front and center and barrage blasting the airwaves with it, the governor of the country's largest state is feting DM at public events.

After screaming at us non stop about the most graphic details of this man's amputations and chemically induced mutations, if we finally lift our head even a little, these same people angrily cry "why don't you hatemomgers mind your own business?!?!"

[2dimes]

I’m a “Boomer” so what do you expect.

(Not really a Boomer… GenX… but Mookie will call me a Boomer so…)

Hmmm, let's just tweak this a little here...

I’m a “Woman” so what do you expect.

(Not really a Woman… Beer drinker… but Mookie will call me a Woman so…)

Bud Light?

[Dukasaur]

If someone is suffering from serious delusions I agree just live and let live and don't worry about it.

But, in this case, there is a megaphone turned up to an 11 slamming us for 23 hours a day demanding we pay attention. The White House is sending open letters congratulating DM on "365 days of girlhood," America's largest companies are retooling their advertising to put DM front and center and barrage blasting the airwaves with it, the governor of the country's largest state is feting DM at public events.

After screaming at us non stop about the most graphic details of this man's amputations and chemically induced mutations, if we finally lift our head even a little, these same people angrily cry "why don't you hatemomgers mind your own business?!?!"

Agreed.

[jimboston]

If someone is suffering from serious delusions I agree just live and let live and don't worry about it.

But, in this case, there is a megaphone turned up to an 11 slamming us for 23 hours a day demanding we pay attention. The White House is sending open letters congratulating DM on "365 days of girlhood," America's largest companies are retooling their advertising to put DM front and center and barrage blasting the airwaves with it, the governor of the country's largest state is feting DM at public events.

After screaming at us non stop about the most graphic details of this man's amputations and chemically induced mutations, if we finally lift our head even a little, these same people angrily cry "why don't you hatemomgers mind your own business?!?!"

Agreed.

Wait.

Hold the presses!

Have we found some common agreement between Saxi and Duk?