Prison Mafia TOWN WIN !!

[Dunk90]

Wasn't there someone that hasn't commented yet? I thought there was one. If that is the case, will he be MOD killed? If that is what happens, does it matter how we vote?

[joshzam]

It matters. A Mod kill would be on top of a lynch. And we don't know if either the silent player or the person lynched is Town or Scum. It could be doubly good or doubly bad.

[Dunk90]

I don't believe that halrod made all of this up on his own, but his story doesn't make sense, and I feel like there's something he's not sharing.

Absolutely agreed. If Razor made an honest mistake, I'm convinced he would have corrected the record and not let a Townie possibly get lynched because of a mistake. There are more details that have not been shared.

Agreed

[Razorvich]

Screams then a blunt "THUD" is heard from the Cells
A body is found twisted and bent at the bottom of the staircase... seems he "Slipped" on the wet floor

With inspection of the deformed body, a crushed identity card is discovered

"Doctor No" has been MOD KILLED


Name: Julius No
Crime: Malpractice
Sentence: 15 Years

___________________________

TITLE:_.Doctor
GROUP: TOWN

___________________________

IT IS NOW NIGHT 1
(As I am blessed as a Moderator, I will lock the thread to prevent any night chat.)

PLEASE get your NIGHT ACTIONS to me via private message ASAP.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL.. TOWN you will need it now ... the crazy is about to begin

[TeeGee]

[Razorvich]

The night is filled with screams and horror..

Seems you lot just can't play nicely together....

pershy, chanakam2020 and what you think is Maxleod are found curled up under the staircase, their hair has turned white
They are all speaking gibberish.
You will not get anything out of them today on day 2

Loose cannon is found on the upper floor... DEAD

show: Loose cannon

The Jonah is found outside in the parade ground... DEAD

show: TheJonah

TrafalgarLaw01 is at the base of the staircase... DEAD

show: TrafalgarLaw01

traffic133 is found on the gound floor DEAD

show: traffic133

There was no sight of General Bax and cdbridges

YOU ARE ALL WELCOME TO DISCUSS YOUR NIGHT RESULTS IF YOU CHOOSE

With 19 left alive it will take 10 votes for a lynch
With 3 muted.. GOOD LUCK Town...... 7 days MAX till day 2 end

IT IS NOW DAY 2

[*Pixar*]

Holy cow lots of deaths. Looks like maybe a 3rd party has killed a mafia member for us? Also looks like we got some duplicate rolls that can hush people, from what I can tell that's a mafia role when I look it up? Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyone got any useful information to share? Going to be really hard to lynch someone with 3 people quiet and needing 10 votes I must say.

[*Pixar*]

i agree to no first day lynching every thing looks better the next day

mt thoughts are wait till next day begins then talk bout lynchings maybe no shows cos they have had 3-4 days to turn up

Traffic really never posted anything relevant just a bunch of jibber jabber. He did not ride the Halrob vote train, was totally for a no lynch on Day1. Some info for us to use

[fusibaseball]

Ok...I think the most important first question is who killed traffic, what was your basis, and who else do you think/know to be Mafia? I have a suspicion that this "hushed" group perhaps has knowledge and is now silenced as they have used up their powerful ability?

I will say that I am responsible for Loose Canon's death. This kill was "viewed" by another player in the darkness but I do have knowledge of who. I'm town but had the ability to kill one player across the entire game, and I was positive that he was scum. Given that Raz had also dropped hints that this would be a "fast-paced game" and the Doctor was our no-show further hindering Town's power, I figured it best to use my role early and hope it worked. And if he was, I knew the other 4 or 5 on my list that I had grouped with him were scum too. But now I'm thinking they are all a 3rd party coalition and know I'm being fooled by another group.

Lots to unpack in Raz's post...but notice Bax AND Cdbridges are grouped together. So I don't believe either of them are the 24th "god"/warden role (Bax was my second choice). I now believe them to be third party and/or a second "silenced" group for their kill on traffic. That leads me to think halrob is still the 24th player.

Note also pershy and I-andrei have been separated, even though I had them clumped together as "note-bringers" Day 1. Why would pershy be in a silenced group while I-andrei continues unhindered?

Regardless, I think town has to go for someone on Day 2 as my suspicion is our numbers are dwindling fast and by day 3, I'm not even sure a majority vote on a Mafia player will be possible. We need A) more information, B) to get on a same thread, and C) try something.

[*Pixar*]

Could the no sight of bax and bridges mean they didn't send their night action in? Both of them have hardly participated if at all, could be wrong but I don't think that means they are aligned together?

[fusibaseball]

Could the no sight of bax and bridges mean they didn't send their night action in? Both of them have hardly participated if at all, could be wrong but I don't think that means they are aligned together?

This is very possible.

Raz's words: "There was no sign of General Bax or cdbridges" and both players have been very passive as you suggest....now I am thinking as you are and believe they may have just not submitted any night actions. Don Raz has already indicated all roles have power so they should have submitted something.

Edit: Which now leads me to think neither of them can be Mafia as the Mafia kills are collective actions, correct? Probably best to avoid both of them for Day 2.

[i-andrei]

Ok...I think the most important first question is who killed traffic, what was your basis, and who else do you think/know to be Mafia? I have a suspicion that this "hushed" group perhaps has knowledge and is now silenced as they have used up their powerful ability?

I will say that I am responsible for Loose Canon's death. This kill was "viewed" by another player in the darkness but I do have knowledge of who. I'm town but had the ability to kill one player across the entire game, and I was positive that he was scum. Given that Raz had also dropped hints that this would be a "fast-paced game" and the Doctor was our no-show further hindering Town's power, I figured it best to use my role early and hope it worked. And if he was, I knew the other 4 or 5 on my list that I had grouped with him were scum too. But now I'm thinking they are all a 3rd party coalition and know I'm being fooled by another group.

Lots to unpack in Raz's post...but notice Bax AND Cdbridges are grouped together. So I don't believe either of them are the 24th "god"/warden role (Bax was my second choice). I now believe them to be third party and/or a second "silenced" group for their kill on traffic. That leads me to think halrob is still the 24th player.

Note also pershy and I-andrei have been separated, even though I had them clumped together as "note-bringers" Day 1. Why would pershy be in a silenced group while I-andrei continues unhindered?

Regardless, I think town has to go for someone on Day 2 as my suspicion is our numbers are dwindling fast and by day 3, I'm not even sure a majority vote on a Mafia player will be possible. We need A) more information, B) to get on a same thread, and C) try something.

I don't think that if you're town and you have 1 kill for the whole game you kill night 1.
Why? I
I think you either killed someone else and you lie to cover up a town kill, or you might be the 24th role.

About the 24th role, and knowing Raz, we might all have to work together against that one.

Regarding Pershy, chanakram and Maxleod, it's a bit polarised, I think they either killed or saw the kill.

[joshzam]

Four night deaths is a lot, but having half of them be 3rd Party or Mafia is actually really good!! But add Cofari's Mod kill and we've already lost 3 Townies at the start of D2. I don't mind losing a Gossip, but a Doctor and a Detective could be very useful.

pershy, chanakam2020 and what you think is Maxleod are found curled up under the staircase, their hair has turned white

What you think is Maxleod??? Is this just flavor, because he's a terrified mess? Or is there something more here? chanakam2020 and Maxleod didn't participate much on D1, so I don't know why they would be targeted for silence, but pershy shared his message and answered questions. His silence may hurt. Crazy theory: their D2 silence may have something to do with those stupid Meow messages that were sent on D1. Am I reading too much into this? Or is there a devious mechanic at work here?

Now that we're seeing actual roles and role descriptions being revealed, I think we should study this page: https://mafia.gg/guide/roles - it has the exact same descriptions that are being used in this game. Of particular interest are the Agent and Spy roles. Agent is Town-aligned and "may send anonymous messages to any non-Town-aligned role". Spy is Mafia-aligned and "may send anonymous messages to any role during the day". pershy and i-andrei admitted to receiving messages on D1, but this does not tell us much about their alignment (yet). halrob also claimed to have received a message, or two, but some were deleted, and most of what he said in general did not make sense, so I have no idea what to do with him. Another question is: were any/all of these messages from other players, or directly from the Mod? Does anyone claim to have sent them to prove they are a Town Agent?

As Pixar pointed out, traffic posted absolutely nothing of value on D1. But he still posted more than actorday, cdbridges, Dukasaur, DukeHazzard, General Bax, PepeAtila, and TheJonah. It would make sense that General Bax and cdbridges wasted their chance to help Town last night by forgetting to participate, like they did on D1. The others on that list are high on my scummarining list. I'd like to see them make more of an effort on D2 or I'd be happy to see them gone.

fusibaseball, I'm really glad you came out and shared at the start of today because you didn't get any Town cred from me during D1. I like your questions now. I agree that traffic's killer should make themself known. But I'm gonna need you to please explain exactly why you killed Loose Cannon. Explain to us how you were "positive that he was scum".

i-andrei was quick to doubt fusibaseball's claim. Noted.

[degaston]

Could the no sight of bax and bridges mean they didn't send their night action in? Both of them have hardly participated if at all, could be wrong but I don't think that means they are aligned together?

This is very possible.

Raz's words: "There was no sign of General Bax or cdbridges" and both players have been very passive as you suggest....now I am thinking as you are and believe they may have just not submitted any night actions. Don Raz has already indicated all roles have power so they should have submitted something.

Edit: Which now leads me to think neither of them can be Mafia as the Mafia kills are collective actions, correct? Probably best to avoid both of them for Day 2.

If everyone has a power role, then that would mean all the Mafia do too. To my knowledge, the mafia night kill is not normally a collective action, but rather, one player is chosen to do it. This allows it to be blocked or redirected if that player is targeted. Having that duty might or might not prevent him from using his own night power, but I don't think that would count as a night action for all the other Mafia players. In any case, I don't think that's a reason to assume that those two are not Mafia, or to avoid them. (Though they'll probably continue to hide and people will just forget about them.)

Duk is the other almost-no-show with only one post. Did he decide to send in his night action?

[degaston]

I think you either killed someone else and you lie to cover up a town kill, or you might be the 24th role.

That would be a pretty bold move that would easily be refuted by whoever did kill Loose Canon, as well as whoever viewed the kill.
It's still possible that fusi is mafia and performed the night kill on LC (not knowing his alignment), and decided to claim it because he knows someone saw him.

I am also curious about why he chose LC.

[pershy]

Mama....mama? Where mama? You my mama? I want ma mamaaaaaa. MmmmHAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HEEEE - we are all gonna die hahahahaahaha!!!!! Mmmmm cake - I like cake. ME LIKEE LIKEEEEEEEEEE. Gimme cake? Gemme mammaaaa!!!!
WHY - heee heee heee weeeeee - we, we, we, we.......cakee times?
WaaaaAAAAaaAAAàäâå.

HooooHAAAA!

Brrr brrrr

*shakes on the floor and sobs*

[Dunk90]

I absolutely took no night action. When the screaming started I found the nearest cell and crawled under the bed in fear. I got no sleep. When terror that came over me subsided, I came out of the cell in one piece. I had survived the night!!!!!! I had no idea what had happened and to who. When I finally realized that the carnage was all around me, I was somehow relieved.

I am still suspicious of all those that wanted a Day 1 lynch very early. Pixar in particular. I have nothing solid as far as proof, but I will.

[fusibaseball]

I don't think that if you're town and you have 1 kill for the whole game you kill night 1.
Why? I
I think you either killed someone else and you lie to cover up a town kill, or you might be the 24th role.

About the 24th role, and knowing Raz, we might all have to work together against that one.

Regarding Pershy, chanakram and Maxleod, it's a bit polarised, I think they either killed or saw the kill.

I already explained why I felt urgency to kill Night 1. Our Doctor was a no-show, we couldn't get any votes together even though multiple players were acting suspicious as hell not even able to defend themselves, and Raz had indicated this would be a high-kill lobby to keep up the tempo.

I chose Loose Canon because look at a composite of what he posted Day 1:
A) He immediately jumps on a bandwagon to kill Dunk with very little ground to stand on
B) All of a sudden, when it's halrob's turn on the chopping block, he skirts away and doesn't budge off Dunk? That to me was a WTF

I was not wrong that he wasn't town so I actually don't regret my choice to kill him.

Regardless, I could easily point the finger back at you for being so quick to question me (thank you Josh & dega) but I actually don't think you are scum, even considering your strange message you brought forward and being named as the informant by Halrob.

I don't know about anyone else, but I think there is significant urgency on this Day 2 to try to get a lynch going. And if I look back at the posts, traffic was noticeably absent from the vote against Halrob when he could have easily bandwagoned. Why would he do that unless he knew Halrob's allegiance to Mafia? That is my best clue to go on, unless whoever killed traffic is able to come forward and give us more knowledge.

Vote halrob

(Also, who killed Jonah and why?? He was very passive and could have easily helped Town with the Day 1 lynch on Halrob but wasn't even helping us do that despite being a weaker Town role...so that kill to me is also a huge question mark. Was he on anyone's radar?)

[joshzam]

Duk is the other almost-no-show with only one post. Did he decide to send in his night action?

First, who are you referring to? Dukasaur or DukeHazzard?

As Pixar pointed out, traffic posted absolutely nothing of value on D1. But he still posted more than actorday, cdbridges, Dukasaur, DukeHazzard, General Bax, PepeAtila, and TheJonah.

degaston, there were EIGHT people who posted f*ck all yesterday (two are now dead), and you single out "Duk". Why are you only curious about his night action and nobody else's?

[degaston]

Duk is the other almost-no-show with only one post. Did he decide to send in his night action?

First, who are you referring to? Dukasaur or DukeHazzard?

Sorry, I was referring to Dukasaur

As Pixar pointed out, traffic posted absolutely nothing of value on D1. But he still posted more than actorday, cdbridges, Dukasaur, DukeHazzard, General Bax, PepeAtila, and TheJonah.

degaston, there were EIGHT people who posted f*ck all yesterday (two are now dead), and you single out "Duk". Why are you only curious about his night action and nobody else's?

I kept a spreadsheet. Cofari posted 0 times and was mod-killed. There were four who only posted once: Dukasaur, cdbridges, General Bax, and TheJonah, who is dead. "There is no sight of cdbridges and General Bax", whatever that means. Is it just that that didn't send in their night action, or is something else going on with them?

That leaves Dukasaur.

I don't "know" him, but I know that he is extremely active on the site, and has played Mafia here before. From a post search, the only other players who have completed games here are *Pixar*, pershy, Ragian, and me, though it appears some have played somewhere else before. I'm curious about all the players who contributed little during D1, but I can't really call out all of them, and I had higher expectations for him.

[joshzam]

I kept a spreadsheet. Cofari posted 0 times and was mod-killed. There were four who only posted once: Dukasaur, cdbridges, General Bax, and TheJonah, who is dead. "There is no sight of cdbridges and General Bax", whatever that means. Is it just that that didn't send in their night action, or is something else going on with them?

That leaves Dukasaur.

I don't "know" him, but I know that he is extremely active on the site, and has played Mafia here before. From a post search, the only other players who have completed games here are *Pixar*, pershy, Ragian, and me, though it appears some have played somewhere else before. I'm curious about all the players who contributed little during D1, but I can't really call out all of them, and I had higher expectations for him.

We should compare spreadsheets after the game is over.

You should update your spreadsheet to note that while actorday, DukeHazzard, and PepeAtila may have officially posted once or twice, they have added exactly ZERO value to the game. This is as scummy as not writing anything at all. They all need to speak up, start playing, and help Town, or get lynched.

[*Pixar*]

Waiting to hear from more people to see if anything else happen at night that may help us Ragian always has some good thoughts

[DukeHazzard]

... that while actorday, DukeHazzard, and PepeAtila may have officially posted once or twice, they have added exactly ZERO value to the game. This is as scummy as not writing anything at all. They all need to speak up, start playing, and help Town, or get lynched.

I'm new to this game and I'm sitting back quietly seeing how it's played and trying to follow everyone else's logic. I did speak up and voted to lynch Halrob when I agreed that he wasn't being straight with everyone. I will probably vote against him again unless something else comes up. For now I'll hold my vote.

(Also, who killed Jonah and why?? He was very passive and could have easily helped Town with the Day 1 lynch on Halrob but wasn't even helping us do that despite being a weaker Town role...so that kill to me is also a huge question mark. Was he on anyone's radar?)

I don't know who killed Jonah and why, but I can say that real life has been keeping him away from CC a lot lately. That would be why he wasn't very active.

[cdbridges]

I just woke up in a closet. I remember that I suggested we search the prison together to find the prisoner who was here when we arrived, then nothing. I'm Town, and an attorney. So, if anyone is accused, I could defend him or her, assuming I don't think they're scum.

[joshzam]

I just woke up in a closet. I remember that I suggested we search the prison together to find the prisoner who was here when we arrived, then nothing. I'm Town, and an attorney. So, if anyone is accused, I could defend him or her, assuming I don't think they're scum.

cdbridges, did you perform an action last night?