The Tick Mafia - JUSTICE PREVAILS!

[SoN!c]

If you read well, you will see I'm saying there is actually a patter just that its not obvious. The they killed Charle cause suspected Pix and loose has no actual support. He was Doc therefore had 0 chance to actually know anything D1.
Pix can be a scum, but not we won't find the answer in a coment made by Doc Charle with 0 info.

Sorry needed to unvote first

So unvote Pepe Vote Pixar

Look we need to share information. Bringing valid leads based on good cases or good hypotheses. Get coördinated and gets things going. If we don't do this we will just end up in a stalemate.

Pixar seems a promising lead based on everything that developped from his bandwagon and why Fusi steered people from there into directions (unless Reggie says a bit more why he wants to go on Pep - after all it's not certain that Ragian is the Tick like DDS thinks he is and him going silent on it).

Fusi being scum is what we have, we should try to figure out more from there.

If people could explain themselves a bit more we could actually scumhunt.

[Ragian]

I'm hung over. Thanks for the gif, DDS. I'll check in later. Anyway, lest something awful happens unvote

[SoN!c]

Thinking I got bailed out by Loose was a total coincidence. I was actually about to claim until I got fast posted by that vote count which made me retract my claim, because something was going on with Loose's vote. But yes I would like to see Loose vote for someone today just to see what happens. And how does Loose not being able to be lynched today "confirm" him as town? Maybe he's got one action to use all game and he used it now since he was getting pressured?

Convenient to say that now. I don't think you had any intention to claim as you had previously stated that in day 1. Still fos in my books. Also, pretty perfect timing for Loose to bail you out. Too perfect to be coincidence.

I was reading through this all from the start of the day as I haven't been around for a couple of days. I was inclined to vote on Loose as I also feel he is scummy. But I didn't get here in time and it wouldn't have mattered anyways. Still don't get why you're searching for a specific character to claim (cop?) Also, Why do you continue to ignore people asking you to vote? It's a high probability that I will be voting you D3.

So just saying. It could very well be we got played and steered by Fusi and Pixar is indeed town, but just like Doc we have Duke here thinking Pixar too. And both are dead now.. "It's a high probability that I will be voting you D3." Famous last words by DOC AND DUKE

So is this what it seems to the obvious (Pixar being mafia)? Or is this designed as a flip play by Fusi from the start?

Going after Pix and Loose would make town busy for days.. And he steered me on Loose from the start.. "Fusibaseball said:= I put Loose in the same bucket and if a wagon gets going for Loose I'm in on that in a heartbeat".

I made another note tho : "Fusibaseball said:=Law and Duke have a lot of Town Cred in my book ATM." (with Townie Duke shot randomly tonight this would confirm Law as Town)

In any case i'd like to hear more from Pix on the matter.

[Extreme Ways]

unvote

@Sonic of course the kills might not be totally random, but that doesn't mean that everyone they suspected is mafia no? Even if it is, wouldn't revived-Charle then not be hard-pushing because he came back alive?

Adding to the fact that you yourself have been referring to this logic a lot D2, maybe Mafia killed someone knowing you would run with it. Light WIFOM moment.

I do think Pixar is one of the more... scummy people around.

I remember Fusi's sign up quote where Fusi said "please not the godfather role again for me" so that made me believe the town assignation for him would be likely.

Please never ever ever ever take this into consideration for the remainder of the game. Mod randomly hands out roles, not based on any requests from the participants.

And In any case, in N1 mafia must have found somenthing out for sure, so claiming the next mafia murder again to "randomness"??? Oh wel, 3 townies murdered already but it's all random.. Nothing to see here..

Well, in turn 1 I must have found out something for sure, so claiming my next roll of heads again to randomness? Oh well, heads three times in a row but it's all random. Nothing to see here.

In N1, Mafia 100% had no info whatsoever (excepting potential breadcrums left by... yours truly among others) so their kill on our Doc was, indeed, random. Just like Town, Mafia can try to read people into third party. It's not unthinkable that Mafia has some kind of role detective which gives them info N2, but we didn't lose one of our more important roles.

Now, using your logic of "mafia killing threats", you might also look at who is still alive. Are strike and myself alive because we pushed hard for you D2? Possibly. Why is Rag alive? Unsure.

Nobody is claiming the kill on fusi and none of the other dead parties explain fusi's killing. Was fusi killed by a townie who prefers to stay alive for now (vigi) despite fusi being mostly trusted, or do we have a third-party who would rather not reveal their identity at all in our midst?

[*Pixar*]

Before I state my case, is it possible even though the doc died on N1, that his protection worked before he died?

-Also sorry for delay response and I'm trying to catch up. Over the weekend had a funeral and someone in my family got me with a head cold. Must be going around if Son!c had it too.

[Extreme Ways]

Before I state my case, is it possible even though the doc died on N1, that his protection worked before he died?

-Also sorry for delay response and I'm trying to catch up. Over the weekend had a funeral and someone in my family got me with a head cold. Must be going around if Son!c had it too.

it does

[SoN!c]

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@Sonic of course the kills might not be totally random, but that doesn't mean that everyone they suspected is mafia no? Even if it is, wouldn't revived-Charle then not be hard-pushing because he came back alive?

Adding to the fact that you yourself have been referring to this logic a lot D2, maybe Mafia killed someone knowing you would run with it. Light WIFOM moment.

I do think Pixar is one of the more... scummy people around.

I remember Fusi's sign up quote where Fusi said "please not the godfather role again for me" so that made me believe the town assignation for him would be likely.

Please never ever ever ever take this into consideration for the remainder of the game. Mod randomly hands out roles, not based on any requests from the participants.

And In any case, in N1 mafia must have found somenthing out for sure, so claiming the next mafia murder again to "randomness"??? Oh wel, 3 townies murdered already but it's all random.. Nothing to see here..

Well, in turn 1 I must have found out something for sure, so claiming my next roll of heads again to randomness? Oh well, heads three times in a row but it's all random. Nothing to see here.

In N1, Mafia 100% had no info whatsoever (excepting potential breadcrums left by... yours truly among others) so their kill on our Doc was, indeed, random. Just like Town, Mafia can try to read people into third party. It's not unthinkable that Mafia has some kind of role detective which gives them info N2, but we didn't lose one of our more important roles.

Now, using your logic of "mafia killing threats", you might also look at who is still alive. Are strike and myself alive because we pushed hard for you D2? Possibly. Why is Rag alive? Unsure.

Nobody is claiming the kill on fusi and none of the other dead parties explain fusi's killing. Was fusi killed by a townie who prefers to stay alive for now (vigi) despite fusi being mostly trusted, or do we have a third-party who would rather not reveal their identity at all in our midst?

But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet, or his enemy's?. Im pretty sure Fusi is the man that puts the poison in his own glass. Then knowing the other one he is saying "cheers old chap" to - at some point - won't trust his own glass of wine anymore and would likely wanna switch the glasses just to be sure..all Fusi needed to do then was to go to the toilet..in order to give the other player the opportunity to do just that.

So if im having dinner with Fusi and he put poison in his goblet, and i had to have to leave the table for any reason, I will order new drinks for both of us instead of trying to decide whether or not he switched glasses (and from there trying to think the possibilities thru if it's a good idea to switch the glass back with him, do i need to try to find a chance to dispose of it without being obvious, or do i just pretends i swapped the glasses back making him believe that..).

After all, Fusi, the experienced player he was, he'd probably had both drinks spiked with a poison substance that he is already immune to..

So we need two new glasses. And stop thinking about the flip possibilities. That will get me nowhere with you.

Two new glasses please. A nice Vintage Pixar 1938 LaTour

[SoN!c]

I would also add that Charle should not respond to people quoting him in the past. So that he cannot now say anything about his Doc-opinion about Sonic.

This quote from you EW did not sat well with me. I mean you were pretty fast, also the first and only one to say so (saying the new Charle could not say anything about the old Doc Charle)...

Looked so "off guard" like you did not had considered the possibility he could reïncarnate as somebody else when you murdered him.

Why would you do that IF you were town? Saying "I would also add that Charle should not respond to people quoting him in the past." Since Doc was town that would have been a good thing for town no? And SW was the first to say Doc murder was "random" with you confirming it.

[Extreme Ways]

EWBOP: I meant that *SOnic* had left breadcrumsb, it's kinda vague the way it's written.

[Extreme Ways]

I would also add that Charle should not respond to people quoting him in the past. So that he cannot now say anything about his Doc-opinion about Sonic.

This quote from you EW did not sat well with me. I mean you were pretty fast, also the first and only one to say so (saying the new Charle could not say anything about the old Doc Charle)...

Looked so "off guard" like you did not had considered the possibility he could reïncarnate as somebody else when you murdered him.

Why would you do that IF you were town? Saying "I would also add that Charle should not respond to people quoting him in the past." Since Doc was town that would have been a good thing for town no? And SW was the first to say Doc murder was "random" with you confirming it.

Well, my opinion was quickly discarded iirc, and I said it for the sake of integrity. You have misinterpreted or misquoted myself in the past, and it would be weird if a dead guy could correct someone else about interpretations while being dead.

[SoN!c]

Reading through all of this over and over and in short I tend to agree with Sonic (who I think is cop anyway) ... it seems that Loose is defending Pixar both Mafia. I have a feeling that Loose's current "no vote" is going to hit us somehow and sometime very hard.

I keep my vote as is for reason.

Or you knew Doc protected somebody (your target) and Doc paid for it with his life (but saved your target doing so).

Doc said he agreed with me and said "Sonic who I think is cop anyway".

Doc protecting the cop that night would be a very logic choice.. hence why you did not wanted Charle's reïncarnation saying anything about it (who he was protecting that night)

[*Pixar*]

Reading through all of this over and over and in short I tend to agree with Sonic (who I think is cop anyway) ... it seems that Loose is defending Pixar both Mafia. I have a feeling that Loose's current "no vote" is going to hit us somehow and sometime very hard.

I keep my vote as is for reason.

Or you knew Doc protected somebody (your target) and Doc paid for it with his life (but saved your target doing so).

Doc said he agreed with me and said "Sonic who I think is cop anyway".

Doc protecting the cop that night would be a very logic choice.. hence why you did not wanted Charle's reïncarnation saying anything about it (who he was protecting that night)

And with that unless I'm missing something I vote strike . Based on my night actions

[strike wolf]

I never said the Duke kill was random. I said that he was someone getting mostly town vibes from people and DDS mentioned how he was someone with mostly town vibes that hadn't been active enough to be a likely protect target. It's a smart move and one that says to me (and I'm sure Son!c will be gleeful to hear this) that at least one mafia member is probably an experienced player influencing the kill.

Also Son!c, I'm 95% sure that Duke was referring to voting Loose on D3 since Loose was the one everyone was asking to vote to see if he was still voteless.

@Pix: Can you elaborate or are you softclaiming Cop? If the latter, Call me a recently installed door because I'VE BEEN FRAMED!

[Charle]

Sorry guys, long weekend here, not much time.

I don't think killing the doc was random and also not loose. Both doc and loose was on something and was therefore killed. I would go pixar as scum for now, or at least this time I would like to get a claim out of him.

Vote Pixar

[Extreme Ways]

FP Charle

Reading through all of this over and over and in short I tend to agree with Sonic (who I think is cop anyway) ... it seems that Loose is defending Pixar both Mafia. I have a feeling that Loose's current "no vote" is going to hit us somehow and sometime very hard.

I keep my vote as is for reason.

Or you knew Doc protected somebody (your target) and Doc paid for it with his life (but saved your target doing so).

Doc said he agreed with me and said "Sonic who I think is cop anyway".

Doc protecting the cop that night would be a very logic choice.. hence why you did not wanted Charle's reïncarnation saying anything about it (who he was protecting that night)

Sidenote which I'm not sure whether you are implying or not:
If Doc protects someone and that someone is targeted, Doc does not die. You are referring to Bodyguard.

[Extreme Ways]

Reading through all of this over and over and in short I tend to agree with Sonic (who I think is cop anyway) ... it seems that Loose is defending Pixar both Mafia. I have a feeling that Loose's current "no vote" is going to hit us somehow and sometime very hard.

I keep my vote as is for reason.

Or you knew Doc protected somebody (your target) and Doc paid for it with his life (but saved your target doing so).

Doc said he agreed with me and said "Sonic who I think is cop anyway".

Doc protecting the cop that night would be a very logic choice.. hence why you did not wanted Charle's reïncarnation saying anything about it (who he was protecting that night)

And with that unless I'm missing something I vote strike . Based on my night actions

Are you claiming Cop with this, or rather something like Tracker?

[*Pixar*]

Reading through all of this over and over and in short I tend to agree with Sonic (who I think is cop anyway) ... it seems that Loose is defending Pixar both Mafia. I have a feeling that Loose's current "no vote" is going to hit us somehow and sometime very hard.

I keep my vote as is for reason.

Or you knew Doc protected somebody (your target) and Doc paid for it with his life (but saved your target doing so).

Doc said he agreed with me and said "Sonic who I think is cop anyway".

Doc protecting the cop that night would be a very logic choice.. hence why you did not wanted Charle's reïncarnation saying anything about it (who he was protecting that night)

And with that unless I'm missing something I vote strike . Based on my night actions

Are you claiming Cop with this, or rather something like Tracker?

Just because I know I'll have to claim more than likely, yes I'm claiming tracker. N1 I visited strike wolf and he visited Son!c, seeing how many kills happened overnight I'm for sure thinking Son!c should have died on N1. N2 I visited Ragian and it came back with nothing. I was really thinking about doing strike wolf again but wanted to see how this evil twin thing was all about with Raz and Ragian. So I'd really love to hear what strike was doing with Son!c on Night 1.

[strike wolf]

I will confirm visiting Son!c N1. I visited Pixar N2. Curious why you would track Rag when Raz's reveal all but cleared him as town.

That said, Tracker is almost always a town role and the fact that he was correct on my N1 visit means that he is probably telling the truth.

[DirtyDishSoap]

I'm hung over. Thanks for the gif, DDS. I'll check in later. Anyway, lest something awful happens unvote

Gotchu fam. Hungover too, trying to get ready for work. I'm pulling an Extreme, but I'll read up when time permits. Looks like alot of filibuster to sift through.

[SoN!c]

This is what im talking about!

No more stalemate.

Pix and Stinke (Strike ) their soft claim is BIG like Raz his softclaim before.. If you gonna blow your balloon this fast this BIG it's easy to pop it when untrue.. And after Raz that would be suicide..


I already used a metaphor trying to explain it all what's going on between me and EW. In this game there is at least a good glass of wine (town) and a poisoned glass (scum).

But if your town you just don't know: so you only know there is a glass of Red wine out there from quality so good it's like this rich and elegant good angel Paulliac style.. but there is also a glass of poisoned wine ot there ; so pure evil if you drink it your murdered instantly..and you lose the game

So: As town you need to search for the good glass and you need to search for it fast..you just don't know what glass is gonna be evil and what not... EW not once searched for the glass himself (like he already knew, the evil glas is already secretly marked as evil or he knows or both glasses are spiked with poison and he knows that too...Evil knows evil).

I said Strike needed a brain "in three moves"..because Stinke was always defending / confirming EW on every move by attacking me just because EW did. But i also understand Strike hooked his wagon on EW because EW is that great of a player,.. but did Strike just once considered the possiblility EW was scum? And If you counter-attack me and lynch me but i turn out town as Die Fledermaus like i have been saying from D1 surely town will lynch you right back? Not much "checkmate in 3" style there i'd say?

I knew Pix his terroir story would produce a Grand Vin like a 1938 La Tour Pauillac (Premier Grand Cru Classé). I think we have to follow up on it while enjoying this good glass of good wine.

Strike needs to tell more about what he found out on me. Because it just don't add up: Strike says he visited me on N1 but he kept coming for me on D2??..;

Either he knows that is BS from the start or he is thinking the play is good for town (me attracting scum). But saying A means you need to say B at this moment.


Unvote Pixar


Vote EW

[strike wolf]

I haven't really gotten any definitive info on you Son!c. I couldn't even confirm that my action had gone through until Pixar verified that I visited you. Still all I know about you for certain at this point is that you did not kill Charle N1.

[Extreme Ways]

I'll first address the easier part:

Strike needs to tell more about what he found out on me. Because it just don't add up: Strike says he visited me on N1 but he kept coming for me on D2??..;

Either he knows that is BS from the start or he is thinking the play is good for town (me attracting scum). But saying A means you need to say B at this moment.

Strike visiting you doesnt mean he's a cop of some sort, we only know he is a visiting role and confirms that Pix saw him visiting you.

I already used a metaphor trying to explain it all what's going on between me and EW. In this game there is at least a good glass of wine (town) and a poisoned glass (scum).

But if your town you just don't know: so you only know there is a glass of Red wine out there from quality so good it's like this rich and elegant good angel Paulliac style.. but there is also a glass of poisoned wine ot there ; so pure evil if you drink it your murdered instantly..and you lose the game

So: As town you need to search for the good glass and you need to search for it fast..you just don't know what glass is gonna be evil and what not... EW not once searched for the glass himself (like he already knew, the evil glas is already secretly marked as evil or he knows or both glasses are spiked with poison and he knows that too...Evil knows evil).

I said Strike needed a brain "in three moves"..because Stinke was always defending / confirming EW on every move by attacking me just because EW did. But i also understand Strike hooked his wagon on EW because EW is that great of a player,.. but did Strike just once considered the possiblility EW was scum? And If you counter-attack me and lynch me but i turn out town as Die Fledermaus like i have been saying from D1 surely town will lynch you right back? Not much "checkmate in 3" style there i'd say?

I knew Pix his terroir story would produce a Grand Vin like a 1938 La Tour Pauillac (Premier Grand Cru Classé). I think we have to follow up on it while enjoying this good glass of good wine.


Unvote Pixar


Vote EW

Enjoy your wine! I dont know if you noticed, but I'm actually heavily pushing against you after D2 and N2. Also, you are thoroughly bastardising WIFOM to the point that even I am confused. If you have questions that need answering from me, please list them and I shall try my best (within reason).

[SoN!c]

I haven't really gotten any definitive info on you Son!c. I couldn't even confirm that my action had gone through until Pixar verified that I visited you. Still all I know about you for certain at this point is that you did not kill Charle N1.

If this is true you need to stop hooking your wagon on EW everytime. It sure souds like your telling the truth to me

[traffic133]

i like drinking good wine,dont like the vinegar type of wine i think ew is scum(not in rl buddy lol)its a gut feeling

vote ew

[SoN!c]

I'll first address the easier part:

Strike needs to tell more about what he found out on me. Because it just don't add up: Strike says he visited me on N1 but he kept coming for me on D2??..;

Either he knows that is BS from the start or he is thinking the play is good for town (me attracting scum). But saying A means you need to say B at this moment.

Strike visiting you doesnt mean he's a cop of some sort, we only know he is a visiting role and confirms that Pix saw him visiting you.

I already used a metaphor trying to explain it all what's going on between me and EW. In this game there is at least a good glass of wine (town) and a poisoned glass (scum).

But if your town you just don't know: so you only know there is a glass of Red wine out there from quality so good it's like this rich and elegant good angel Paulliac style.. but there is also a glass of poisoned wine ot there ; so pure evil if you drink it your murdered instantly..and you lose the game

So: As town you need to search for the good glass and you need to search for it fast..you just don't know what glass is gonna be evil and what not... EW not once searched for the glass himself (like he already knew, the evil glas is already secretly marked as evil or he knows or both glasses are spiked with poison and he knows that too...Evil knows evil).

I said Strike needed a brain "in three moves"..because Stinke was always defending / confirming EW on every move by attacking me just because EW did. But i also understand Strike hooked his wagon on EW because EW is that great of a player,.. but did Strike just once considered the possiblility EW was scum? And If you counter-attack me and lynch me but i turn out town as Die Fledermaus like i have been saying from D1 surely town will lynch you right back? Not much "checkmate in 3" style there i'd say?

I knew Pix his terroir story would produce a Grand Vin like a 1938 La Tour Pauillac (Premier Grand Cru Classé). I think we have to follow up on it while enjoying this good glass of good wine.


Unvote Pixar


Vote EW

Enjoy your wine! I dont know if you noticed, but I'm actually heavily pushing against you after D2 and N2. Also, you are thoroughly bastardising WIFOM to the point that even I am confused. If you have questions that need answering from me, please list them and I shall try my best (within reason).

"Against me"

Is that against me like trying to lynch me asap or against me getting lynch votes?

Like i said : you never once seemed interested finding out what glas of wine is poisoned and what glas is not like you know from the start.