The Thing TOWN WINS!

[*Pixar*]

So now what? We don't want to lynch? Too much math involved for me

[degaston]

I called it back on Oct. 28:

My first impression (based on running The Tick) is that Sonic was very good at picking townies to accuse, so whether he's the Thing or not, I'm inclined to do the opposite of what he says.

Fyi Deg I think your logic is slightly flawed because we need to find the recruiter first and foremost, so I much prefer thinning ourselves.

Your "because" does not explain why you think my logic is flawed.

Let's just get a damn BT going, guys. This is ridiculous. I think it's nice to have Dega back posting, but I'm slightly concerned about his logic... I think we should BT him. I'm more on the fence with regard to lynching, however.

And your "concern" about my logic is...?

[SoN!c]

Look we have to Lynch. Draw straws or go with gut feeling.

Traf is my gut feeling because his reaction. But we can BT him tomorrow too ofcourse. So what will it be?

[degaston]

Look we have to Lynch. Draw straws or go with gut feeling.

Traf is my gut feeling because his reaction. But we can BT him tomorrow too ofcourse. So what will it be?

Well fine, if you insist...
Vote Sonic

[SoN!c]

Look we have to Lynch. Draw straws or go with gut feeling.

Traf is my gut feeling because his reaction. But we can BT him tomorrow too ofcourse. So what will it be?

Well fine, if you insist...
Vote Sonic

If you think im The Thing then something is definetly off with your logic. I would have played a total different strategy if i was the Thing and for starters surely not being so vocal as that draws too much attention.

That is another reason i wanted to BT Traf. Gut feeling but also the fact that if he tested negative he could lay out the plan to move forward on D1 and take the lead on who to lynch.

Now you got the BT and first thing you say is you wanna vote me? lmao

[Extreme Ways]

I called it back on Oct. 28:

My first impression (based on running The Tick) is that Sonic was very good at picking townies to accuse, so whether he's the Thing or not, I'm inclined to do the opposite of what he says.

Fyi Deg I think your logic is slightly flawed because we need to find the recruiter first and foremost, so I much prefer thinning ourselves.

Your "because" does not explain why you think my logic is flawed.

Truth be told everybody is good at accusing townies because there's absolutely nothing to go off of and there wont be anything, either. But you're lynch-free, congrats!

I think the no lynch logic is flawed because:
1) in 8v2, we need 6 townies to vote for the correct BT. Only 2 townies can be wrong, and look how difficult it is to orchestrate. I prefer odd numbers.
2) Say we no lynch and get to 7v3 with a positive BT, lynch the dude, and he turns out to be the recruiter. First of all, getting 6 townies on the correct person to BT given that theres 3 people misdirecting is super duper hard. I think it's more likely that the recruiter is getting bussed, and we end up with a 7v2 mountaineous game where the townies who werent on the train are the first to be miscondemned.

[degaston]

If you think im The Thing then something is definetly off with your logic. I would have played a total different strategy if i was the Thing and for starters surely not being so vocal as that draws too much attention.

You think that the strategy you are using is what proves that you're not the Thing. So isn't that exactly the strategy you would use if you were the Thing?

That is another reason i wanted to BT Traf. Gut feeling but also the fact that if he tested negative he could lay out the plan to move forward on D1 and take the lead on who to lynch.

You said it's either Traf or me, but I was at BT-1, and you wouldn't switch your vote to me, even though your vote on Traf was going nowhere. Maybe you just didn't want to be blamed for a bad BT on me? You never did respond to my question about what your case on Traf was.
In any case, I was the one who was BT'ed, so I'm the one who has to lay out a plan to move forward and take the lead on who to lynch.

Now you got the BT and first thing you say is you wanna vote me? lmao

I think your logic is faulty and your play is detrimental to town.
Whether you are the thing or not, you're likely to go through the whole game leading the town astray, so town should either lynch you today, or BT you first thing tomorrow.

[Extreme Ways]

I kinda like Dega's point of Sonic not hammering Dega, even if I also think a cult sonic would be relatively easy to raed.

[degaston]

I think the no lynch logic is flawed because:
1) in 8v2, we need 6 townies to vote for the correct BT. Only 2 townies can be wrong, and look how difficult it is to orchestrate. I prefer odd numbers.

If it's 7v2 then you still need all but 2 to be correct, so how is that better?
Also, 8v2 means only 20% of the group is Things instead of 22.2% for 7v2.

2) Say we no lynch and get to 7v3 with a positive BT, lynch the dude, and he turns out to be the recruiter. First of all, getting 6 townies on the correct person to BT given that theres 3 people misdirecting is super duper hard. I think it's more likely that the recruiter is getting bussed, and we end up with a 7v2 mountaineous game where the townies who werent on the train are the first to be miscondemned.

If you think it's going to be hard to get a correct BT or lynch with 7v3, how in the world do you think it's going to be easier with 5v3?

[SoN!c]

All i know is The Thing is laughing very hard atm.

Deg you missed quite a lot in your absense. You should have been here with the rest of town. You could have posted / discussed your idea's back then.. Now it's just more of the same circles and topics we already debated. You got BT for a good reason. If you were here that would not have happened we would not have wasted a BT on you.

[degaston]

All i know is The Thing is laughing very hard atm.

You're laughing very hard atm?

Deg you missed quite a lot in your absense. You should have been here with the rest of town. You could have posted / discussed your idea's back then.. Now it's just more of the same circles and topics we already debated. You got BT for a good reason. If you were here that would not have happened we would not have wasted a BT on you.

What "circles and topics" are you talking about?

And what was the "good reason" for my BT? Since the game started, I've had a total of 4 days that I didn't post, and my longest streak was 2 days without a post. There are several other players with fewer posts and longer "absences". Swang has only posted once in November. You were just been pushing a false narrative against me.

[SoN!c]

All i know is The Thing is laughing very hard atm.

You're laughing very hard atm?

Deg you missed quite a lot in your absense. You should have been here with the rest of town. You could have posted / discussed your idea's back then.. Now it's just more of the same circles and topics we already debated. You got BT for a good reason. If you were here that would not have happened we would not have wasted a BT on you.

What "circles and topics" are you talking about?

And what was the "good reason" for my BT? Since the game started, I've had a total of 4 days that I didn't post, and my longest streak was 2 days without a post. There are several other players with fewer posts and longer "absences". Swang has only posted once in November. You were just been pushing a false narrative against me.

I was pushing for Traf Deg, not you.

And now again the same debate lynch y/n?. We had that already. And asking / bringing up subjects a new that were already debated/said/explained in previous posts..

"Pushing a false narrative against you?" Really?

[Extreme Ways]

I think the no lynch logic is flawed because:
1) in 8v2, we need 6 townies to vote for the correct BT. Only 2 townies can be wrong, and look how difficult it is to orchestrate. I prefer odd numbers.

If it's 7v2 then you still need all but 2 to be correct, so how is that better?
Also, 8v2 means only 20% of the group is Things instead of 22.2% for 7v2.
Which also increases our chance of finding the recruiter by quite a lot. A flip will not give us as much info as in normal mafia, but it still gives us info especially later on in the game.

2) Say we no lynch and get to 7v3 with a positive BT, lynch the dude, and he turns out to be the recruiter. First of all, getting 6 townies on the correct person to BT given that theres 3 people misdirecting is super duper hard. I think it's more likely that the recruiter is getting bussed, and we end up with a 7v2 mountaineous game where the townies who werent on the train are the first to be miscondemned.

If you think it's going to be hard to get a correct BT or lynch with 7v3, how in the world do you think it's going to be easier with 5v3?

The game is probably over by the time it gets there.

[Votanic]

Note for the following GIF: Ignore the MacReady name tag.



No reaction

Yes. More flavor, please. Fire off some clips.

[degaston]

And now again the same debate lynch y/n?. We had that already. And asking / bringing up subjects a new that were already debated/said/explained in previous posts..

I don't think the idea of lynching a player today without a positive BT is correct. But in your case, I'm willing to make an exception.

"Pushing a false narrative against you?" Really?

Yes. Really:

This was posted in your "absence".

If Traf is town our win chances are higher with Traf alive because Deg was absent for so long.

Sorry Deg but your "absence" was either a Thing strategy or you were absent for quite a while for real.. Both are bad for town.

Deg you missed quite a lot in your absense.

Why did you push this narrative against me instead of one of the players who was more absent?

[SoN!c]

And now again the same debate lynch y/n?. We had that already. And asking / bringing up subjects a new that were already debated/said/explained in previous posts..

I don't think the idea of lynching a player today without a positive BT is correct. But in your case, I'm willing to make an exception.

"Pushing a false narrative against you?" Really?

Yes. Really:

This was posted in your "absence".

If Traf is town our win chances are higher with Traf alive because Deg was absent for so long.

Sorry Deg but your "absence" was either a Thing strategy or you were absent for quite a while for real.. Both are bad for town.

Deg you missed quite a lot in your absense.

Why did you push this narrative against me instead of one of the players who was more absent?

Because the idea was to BT an experienced player???

And with deadline coming closer the choice between experienced players was "my suspect" Traf and Ragians (you).

Pretty sure Traf is safe now following your logic

[degaston]

The game is probably over by the time it gets there.

I would agree that it will be very difficult if we get to day 3 and it's 5v3. So why wouldn't it be better for it to be 7v3 on day 3?

[Votanic]

I kinda like Dega's point of Sonic not hammering Dega, even if I also think a cult sonic would be relatively easy to raed.

How is Sonic easy to read?

That post where he somehow determines it is better not to lynch until Day 3!! That is so sus...

I'll admit, if I was on my own choosing the BT it be Sonic.
His defense seems to be I act scummy in every game so it's just my play style and I'm not really scummy...

However, if that is the case, then he plays town badly... and somebody else earlier said it was okay to target dega because he wasn't helping town.
So how is thi epic amount of nonsense from Sonic helping town?

Other than that, I mostly consider Deg and Traf to be about the same level of sus for the BT vote. ... Low levels of sus too, mostly randwagon...

[degaston]

Other than that, I mostly consider Deg and Traf to be about the same level of sus for the BT vote. ... Low levels of sus too, mostly randwagon...

Did you miss that I've already been BT'ed?

That post where he somehow determines it is better not to lynch until Day 3!! That is so sus...

That was me. And what is "sus" about it?

So how is thi epic amount of nonsense from Sonic helping town?

It's not.

[Votanic]

Also, about Dega voting to lynch Sonic...

I get that a lynch vote (especially a pre-BT lynch vote) adds some much needed drama to the proceedings, but ultimately I can't condone a lynch without a BT.

Therefore, I 'm going to walk it like I talk it.

Unvote
BT Sonic

I might just be a lone voice in the wilderness here, and I might have to change my vote again ...or just let it stand as an honestly held, but unelectable, conviction.

I humbly suggest to all players currently voting for dega, Traf, or anyone else to consider getting on my BT Sonic Bandwagon (yes, that's Bandwagon with a 'B').

[Votanic]

Oh shit. That cool pic of the BT was actully the BT!

Yes, I guess I did miss it... Feeling dumb.

Unvote (obviously)

[degaston]

Because the idea was to BT an experienced player???

And with deadline coming closer the choice between experienced players was "my suspect" Traf and Ragians (you).

You were all alone voting for Traf for 2 days. It obviously wasn't going to happen. So if your idea was to "BT an experienced player", and I was sitting there at BT-1, why didn't you switch to me?

[Votanic]

And before I go away and hide for awhile...

I guess I'd better....

Vote Sonic.

[SoN!c]

Also, about Dega voting to lynch Sonic...

I get that a lynch vote (especially a pre-BT lynch vote) adds some much needed drama to the proceedings, but ultimately I can't condone a lynch without a BT.

Therefore, I 'm going to walk it like I talk it.

Unvote
BT Sonic

I might just be a lone voice in the wilderness here, and I might have to change my vote again ...or just let it stand as an honestly held, but unelectable, conviction.

I humbly suggest to all players currently voting for dega, Traf, or anyone else to consider getting on my BT Sonic Bandwagon (yes, that's Bandwagon with a 'B').

That would be tomorrow. Only 1 BT a day.. and You better test Traf tomorrow. Ofcourse very happy to take the BT if town wants me to. I''ll even vote for myself in that case. Still you would need to lynch somebody today id say to have the best win chance.

Fp by votanic

[Votanic]

Also, about Dega voting to lynch Sonic...

I get that a lynch vote (especially a pre-BT lynch vote) adds some much needed drama to the proceedings, but ultimately I can't condone a lynch without a BT.

Therefore, I 'm going to walk it like I talk it.

Unvote
BT Sonic

I might just be a lone voice in the wilderness here, and I might have to change my vote again ...or just let it stand as an honestly held, but unelectable, conviction.

I humbly suggest to all players currently voting for dega, Traf, or anyone else to consider getting on my BT Sonic Bandwagon (yes, that's Bandwagon with a 'B').

That would be tomorrow. Only 1 BT a day.. and You better test Traf tomorrow. Ofcourse very happy to take the BT if town wants me to. I''ll even vote for myself in that case. Still you would need to lynch somebody today id say to have the best win chance.

Fp by votanic

Woah, Sonic, now I'm the last person to give someone a hard time for a 'mistake' (boy, am I ever...) but your post comes only ten minutes after I corrected my mistaken BT vote on you and replaced it with a Lynch vote on you.

So, are you trying to cause more confusion and deflection by ignoring that your Lynch vote now stands at 2.